WOW. I had no idea so many other people
had this problem!! I've noticed my face
being crooked since.... age 14 or 15 (I'm
almost 18, now) and although no one else
sees it, I can see it as plain as day!
I've been working on my self-esteem so it
doesn't bother as me much anymore, but
today I took a self-portrait and it seems
that my face has gotten even MORE
crooked!
I was so worried about my jaw crooked, I
once went to my doctor about it - like, my
jaw can move INCREDIBLY when I lean it to
the left, but it hardly moves at all when
I move it to the right. My doctor said
that I have more jaw muscle on the right,
and I took X-rays, but there was no TMJ or
anything wrong, so he said I was fine.
But now, looking at these pictures, it's
not just my jaw that's crooked! My eyes
and nose, too!
I'm actually wondering if something
dangerous and medical is going on, because
seriously, it seems like the left half of
my face has dropped significantly. I'm
really worried.
To me, the photos look like they are a
full-frontal, but maybe head is tilted a
little... regardless, that is STILL really
crooked!
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Biani
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Posted: 03-13-08 15:14pm
Hi robokira, i hope you don't mind, but i
took your picture and straightened your
face... it is full frontal, but your head
was slightly tilted, so the vertical and
horizontal lines you drew show that your
eyes are not leveled, your nose, and so
forth. But believe me, they're fine. I did
this to show you. Here's the link to your
picture that i re-did the lines to:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh312/b
ianitas9/robokira.jpg
I know what you mean about being able to
move the jaw a lot to one side, but not so
much to the other. In my case, i can move
it so much further to the left than to the
right. Your jaw seems to be just a tiny
bit deviated to the left as well. It's not
as bad as mine, though. So i guess you
kind of have what i have but way less
severe. At least your upper lip is in line
with everything else. Also the corners of
your mouth are in line. I can only tell
that the middle of your chin is a little
to the left. And pretty much only
noticeable when lines are drawn on your
face... I can see why no one else notices
it.
Maybe get checked to make sure it doesn't
get worse (not that it's bad right now, as
i said, i can see why no one notices). I
think mine got worse over the years. But
your doctor said everything's fine...
maybe get a second opinion?
Do you have crowded teeth by any chance?
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person5
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Posted: 03-14-08 15:04pm
I have this too. The right side of my face
looks compressed. The upper lip is raised
on one side. My eye is squished. Nose
isn't the same length on both sides, and
it tilts to the left. I can see it a bit
now even with a single mirror (very
slightly), but I have to take a long, hard
look. I've been complimented on my face,
but what I see with two mirrors is
completely disfigured. And, of course, I
look bad in pictures. It is so confusing..
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Biani
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Posted: 03-14-08 19:01pm
lol. I know, i've been told i have a very
pretty face, and some people have even
asked me if i'm a model 'cause my face
looks familiar to them... And i don't
think it's sarcasm, haha. Of course
there's lots of people who say 'you could
be a model' to people who couldn't ever be
(like myself, i mean, i'm crooked,
c'mon!), but THEY think i'm cute,
obviously.. It IS confusing.
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winst
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yes Posted: 03-16-08 21:27pm
I love how active this topic is. Clearly
my asymmetries are still here and blatant
as ever, but it feels good to know that
other people experience what I experience
on a day to day basis.
I must think about my face every few
minutes, and I won't deny that it's vanity
in its worst manifestation:
self-consciousness, a fear of looking
ugly, or people catching your bad side, or
looking straight on, or smiling crookedly,
etc. It sucks, and I wish I could fix it,
but I'm 19 and I don't have the funds or
the faith to try plastic surgery (I've
narrowed my greatest problems down to the
eye, mouth, and ears).
AGHHHHHH. I hate it. I hate being so
self-conscious and yet I can't stop! My
face is so damn "feminine" or soft that if
the slightest thing changes, my entire
face looks different... with most guys,
their jaws (for example) are prominent
enough that some bloating won't throw much
off. But for me, and my lack of
jaw-definition, or cheek bones, and with
the extreme length of my face, it's just
so easy to be ugly and so hard to look
good.
I really hope there'll be some solution in
the near future, or maybe if I do cave and
get plastic surgery, they won't botch it
up. That would kill me indeed.
Here are some pictures:
(good side)
...f**k, I don't even have any pictures of
my bad side. Pathetic! here's a full
frontal though:
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Fairy Godmother
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Hi Posted: 03-16-08 21:41pm
The Lord does not create JUNK...........I
am sorry,but I have to be honest and blunt
here. You guys look just beautiful to me.
Everyone in reality has 2 different sides
to a face. There are so many people born
with real deformities, that the ones you
are even trying to refer here are NOTHING.
You guys, both of you look like wonderful
happy and NORMAL people with very nice
faces. There is noting wrong wiht either
of your faces and I would be most proud to
have either of them.......so don't evne
thinkg about wasting your money or going
through the pain and agony of
reshapin/rebuilding what the lord has
created.........You need to learn to love
and appreciate the real you..............
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winst
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Re: Hi Posted: 03-17-08 07:23am
Fairy*Godmother
wrote:
The Lord does not create
JUNK...........I am sorry,but I have to be
honest and blunt here. You guys look just
beautiful to me. Everyone in reality has 2
different sides to a face. There are so
many people born with real deformities,
that the ones you are even trying to refer
here are NOTHING. You guys, both of you
look like wonderful happy and NORMAL
people with very nice faces. There is
noting wrong wiht either of your faces and
I would be most proud to have either of
them.......so don't evne thinkg about
wasting your money or going through the
pain and agony of reshapin/rebuilding what
the lord has created.........You need to
learn to love and appreciate the real
you..............
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I wish I could edit my post because I
didn't realize how obscenely large my
photo was.
Also those are the best examples, and
probably the least "true" examples of what
I look like. I know that I'm not hideous
or disfigured, but it just sucks to have
that "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde" affliction
that makes me feel like two different
people. It's the most deeply superficial
split and I'm not sure how to glue it back
together...
I recently realized it's a cranial issue.
I have more bone on the left side of my
face than on the right, which leaves my
left eye rounder and closer to the
hairline (the left side being my bad
side). I've photoshopped worse pictures
numerous times to mirror my left/right
sides, creating two entirely different
people, and one of them is very alien
while the other is perfectly normal.
I guess since we all have a "good side"
and a "bad side" we should be happy, but
it's the pessimism that makes me wonder if
I'd rather just be plagued with a
"normal," but symmetrical face.
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Biani
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Posted: 03-17-08 12:50pm
Hey winst. I really think that having one
side of your face a little wider than the
other is completely normal. Those are the
'normal' assymetries. Your face in itself
is totally symmetric. What i do see there,
is the ear thing you mention. One is a
lil' bit higher than the other. I wouldn't
bother getting plastic surgery if i was
you... based on your pictures you look
normal & symmetrical enough!
I don't know what you mean by 'alien'...
maybe post a picture in which you think
you look alien like?
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amilene
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assymetry Posted: 03-18-08 11:19am
I have the same problem. The whole double
mirror thing, the weird photos... What
causes mine though is a crossbite with two
molars in the very back of the right side
of my mouth. This shift caused my right
condola (ball and socket jaw joint) to
develop smaller than my left, so my entire
right jaw is smaller and tilted to the
right. Of course, nobody notices, and
wouldn't point out regardless, but if I
made them stare at me long enough I could
probably convince them. The thing is, no
one stares at your face as long as you do,
so theyre not looking for imperfections
(unless they are completely OCD). The only
thing that will correct it is painful,
expensive jaw surgery and 2 years of
othodontics. I'm already decent looking,
so this is entirely not worth it. The
position of your teeth and jaws
dramatically effects all the different
aspects of your face, so a bad bite will
make everything seem out of whack. You
have a couple options: pay 17,000 for
orthognathic surgery, pay for your kids to
have braces when they're young to prevent
this from happening again, or just learn
to accept yourself for who you are, and
realize that no measure of obsessing over
it will help ANYTHING. It's a waste of
time and brain space. If you're not a
supermodel, develop yourself in more
meaningful ways. Who cares right? Everyone
gets ugly over time anyway... Concentrate
on your good features... Insecurity is far
more unattractive than a millimeter or two
of unnevenness. Plus, everyone's face has
some degree of assymetry, if they notice
they just don't talk about it. If someone
points out that your face is not even,
tell them they suck at life. Because
obviously anyone that would say that
indeed sucks at life, and needs a
personality transplant.
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Biani
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Posted: 03-18-08 13:35pm
Well... you sure put us in our place,
amilene!
What you say makes sense.
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amilene
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I didn't mean Posted: 03-18-08 14:26pm
to come off as self-righteous or
condescending. It's frustrating because I
was dealing with the same issues for a
long time...and still am from time to
time. I am just trying to adopt a more
positive outlook and except the stuff
that's out of my control. It is not easy
that's for sure. It's funny because I was
actually considering paying that
ridiculous sum of money! Then I figured
I'd rather spend that money on college. I
can't believe I almost chose to mutilate
myself in the futile pursiut of physical
perfection than get an education... That
would've been hard to live down for me.
Maybe if I was a billionaire and never had
to work things would be different, but for
now, se la vie.
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kaktus
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really asymmetrical - but NOT ugly Posted: 03-18-08 18:00pm
I'm female and 28. I have a really
asymmetrical face, my jaw and cheekbone on
my left side are more defined and thicker
and longer than on the right side. And
there's a hump on my nose which is kinda
jagged on the left and more soft on the
right side. Furthermore my left eye looks
always a bit smaller and tired than the
right eye. Oh, and my lips are thicker on
the left. And left nostril smaller than
the right one. So contrary to most people
I prefer my right side. And there is
really not a single feature in my face
that is symmetrical. Still I'm not like
rightaway ugly. I have a nice slim body
and my hair is good, too. I never realized
how asymmetrical my face was until I
purchased a digi-cam. Since then I took
hundreds of pics of my face. Changed sides
on the computer, did some morphing etc.
There's no denying: my face is extremely
asymetrical and once somebody has noticed
they will hardly be able to ignore. Some
years ago I had a friend (a fellowstudent,
I study law - and law students are all
about looks). She felt she was too thick,
didn't like her body but she had a pretty
face. Not much expression in it, boring
but pretty and symmetrical. That nerd
started insulting me, like: "Stop looking
that ugly" and "Your HAIR looks good on
that pic" I knew, it was because she was
jealous of my attractive body, although I
never said anything about it. I ended the
relationship because I couldn't take it
anymore, but the whole sh*t left scars. I
cannot possibly tell myself that I'm the
only one who notices the asymmetry. It has
happened twice that attractive guys were
hitting on me and then saw my face from
the worst angle and kinda shrinked back.
Like "Oh, there's something wrong." the
thing is I'm an attractive appearance and
I get not too little male attention, but
there are these flaws in my face and it
constantly bothers me. I cannot afford any
plastic surgery, but if I had the money I
guess I wouldn't hesitate long. Nobody
deserves the way they look. It's russian
roulette. But you guys, kirrebeachbum and
winst: I don't see any serious problem
with your faces really. And being males
you are less likely to be reduced to the
way you look.
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kirrabeachbum
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reply for biani Posted: 03-20-08 12:37pm
Hey...saw the photo...everything looks
PERFECTLY NORMAL THERE...your entire head
is slightly tilted because of the way you
took the photo I guess but everything is
symmetrical on your face.
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kirrabeachbum
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also biani.. Posted: 03-20-08 12:39pm
look at the way your neck is...it's
slightly off...it's just the way you took
the photo..nothing else...
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kirrabeachbum
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a mirror question and a comment for winst.. Posted: 03-20-08 12:50pm
winst..from your two pictures your face
looks perfectly symmetrical..your ears and
everything included...your hair slightly
goes to one side, so that could be why you
perceive yourself to be assymetrical
also I have a mirror question...okay
people have said my photos looks
symmetrical from both sides, and I can see
that now looking at them, although my nose
is still slightly crooked but i don't care
about that...but my question is when I
hold a handheld mirror in my hand, and
stand in front of a big bathroom mirror
with the handheld mirror, and I use the
handheld mirror to look at the sides of my
face (not the front obvi and not the
profile view, but half way between the
front and the profile view), my right side
I think looks VERY GOOD and my left side
looks so retarded...mainly my hair,
forehead, nose, and jaw..it just looks
like it's def. not symmetrical....
does anyone know what's up with this?? =)
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kirrabeachbum
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you can't tell me these two pics look the same Posted: 03-20-08 17:53pm
hey kirrabeach! Thank you for telling me
i'm normal looking, lol. But no... you see
that my neck looks off, well, it's because
my jaw is off. I guess you could see it
more clearly if i had not cropped the
picture. In the whole picture you could
see my eyes, and see that everything else
is aligned, while my lower jaw and mouth
aren't.
I usually tilt my head in a way that what
seems to be crooked are my eyes and nose.
I look as if my right eye is a lot higher
than the left, and my nose totally points
to the right, and my mouth looks ok. But i
read about tmj and found a drawing
explaining it, and it looked exactly like
me! it says that when people have a
deviated jaw they tilt their heads and
even the whole posture of the body changes
to compensate for the imbalance. In this
picture i was actually tilting my head to
the 'right' position, so you guys could
see more clearly that my mouth and jaw is
off to the left.
I know you told us we couldn't possibly
say this, but, in your two last pictures,
you look the same!!!
You don't look retarded in either one of
them, nor asymmetrical. You look fine,
really!!! I'm just not seeing what you
see... Goes to show you that we are far
more critical of ourselves than other
people are, don't you think?
kaktus: maybe you could post a picture
too?
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opposingrhythms
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Posted: 03-23-08 04:13am
First thing, Robokira,
kirrabeachbum(especially), and winst.. you
look perfectly normal at a glance.
Basically I wouldn't worry about first
looks when you meet people. There are
asymmetries in most faces which create, in
my opinion, attractive visual deviants
from the norm. However on the average face
those are nearly impossible to point out
without measurements. On faces with above
average asymmetries I still think it's
hard for anyone to tell easily, let alone
get wierded out by it. At worst you might
seem unnattractive to a few people but I
really really doubt anyone sees your
asymmetry so quickly. I really can't
emphasize how "normal" you look to me.
It's about time people began to bring this
issue to the surface on the internet. I
remember looking up my problem years ago
and finding no one else like me.
I'm a 22 year old guy with an asymmetrical
face, I almost can't remember not knowing
about it. Even since my elementary school
days I noticed my head seemed to tilt
slightly to one side in photos. One day I
came across the 2 mirror trick which
clearly pointed out everything, my eyes,
my ears, nose, brows, skull... it was so
clearly off.. I could see where it
stretched and compressed so easily.
There's an endless bag of drama on that
side of my life.( no pun intended *Sigh*)
typical highly anti-social issues... etc..
photo days at school...
I'm sure my specific problem comes from my
sleeping posture as a baby, causing my
head to develop asymmetrically. It's good
to know the technical names people use
like plagiocephaly.. and variants.
You know what's cool though...
It's kind of funny how these things shape
your life though, (personality, quirks,
thoughts...) for example my problem helped
me develop my artistic side in many
ways... for one it probably magnified my
obsession with beauty which pretty much
turned me into a damn good artist, someone
who appreciates the human form, the human
face, symmetry and asymmetry. I've
studied nearly every plane the face, the
skull, scrutinized over every detail...
just to understand how and why it all
works.
Biani.. I once heard/read about how women
tend to be more attracted to symmetry( in
the context of attraction). I think for
that reason, you can point it out so
clearly on yourself and probably others.
You simply can easily spot asymmetry and
it probably bothers you a hell of a lot
more than it should. Honestly, I can
imagine your asymmetry being similar to
Shannon Doherty, who I think looks
gorgeous and I never even noticed her
problem until someone pointed it out to
me. ( you girls are so lucky with your
long hair styles btw...) hmmm I really
hope you don't think Doherty is ugly...
As for me...At this point I'm 100% sure
anyone can tell I have an asymmetric face
with the naked eye,the only question is
the severity of it... *sigh which is
enough to keep me fairly anti social. I
worry that people may avoid me... so I
normally avoid them... :/
Don't get me wrong I'm very upbeat, happy,
spiritual, in decent shape, and I've
learned to really not care most of the
time...but some days suck more than
others...
It just frustrating having to deal with
normal " am I ugly issues" with this on
top of everything!!
Anyway guys/girls, nice actually talking
about this thing... I'd post a picture but
my confidence is so low right now. In
another post!!
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Posted: 03-24-08 01:05am
Ugh.. i had just written a long post on
this, and i lost it somehow!!!
Since i'm to lazy to write it all again,
to sum up:
Opposing: i don't think doherty is ugly. I
have never noticed her asymmetry even
knowing that one of her eyes looks smaller
or something. I actually looked that up on
the internet just now, and found a page
dedicated to her asymmetry: http://www.shashachu
.com/Shannen/index.html
But on another page i read that what's
actually wrong with her face is her chin
too. I'll look into that. I'm obsessed now
with this stuff, haha.