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LatinoLoco
on February 23rd, 2009
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Re: pics
WackieGirlie wrote:
Latino Loco, you've sparked my curiosity. The way you described yourself, you made it sound like you're disfigured. Please post pics. I'm sure you're not that bad.


LOL...disfigured I certainly hope not. Literally, though not one side of my face is symmetrical! I find that the mirror image of me is much worse than lets say a regular picture or the way someone would see me dead on. I discovered this by taking a photo of myself on my flip cellphone. I don't know if your cellphones do the same thing but if you don't flip it open you can take a mirror pic of yourself by looking at the closed/front screen. Another way I see it is of course by putting a regular pic against the mirror and seeing the reflection. I am a little apprehensive about posting my pic up as I know someone may one day stumble on this! However, I do want to in order to get some opinions.
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WackieGirlie
replied on February 24th, 2009
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pics
Latino Loco:

Take a look at earlier posts by people. Apparently, the double mirror image is not real. And everyone looks messed up to themselves using a double mirror.
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jellybean1234
replied on March 1st, 2009
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wow i had no idea this was so common! i have the same problem. my face is really pretty on the right side but the left side is really ugly Sad my nose looks like it droops down on the left side and on the ride side it looks perfectly normal! how is that even possible? plus my jaw looks odd on the left side and it pops sometimes when i open my mouth. my face is very asymmetrical and it bothers me every single day. i dont know if people notice it but i sure do. also, im very close with my cousin, we're like best friends so i decided to tell her that my face was asymmetrical, so she looked at both sides of my face and didnt notice. so then i took pictures of my face and she said she definitely noticed and said it was kinda weird but told me it wasnt a big deal. i want to get like corrective surgery when im older but i feel like ill be "fake". i dont want to worry about the looks of the left side of my face for the rest of my life.. i dont know what to do..
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Flavio
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Hi all, I seem to have the same problem as you have. I can take great pictures from my left side and somehow I accepted the fact that my right side looks different. But if in any way my left and right are visible I look crooked. (I do have some pictures from the front I do like but the asymmetric is still noticeable)

If I look in the doubled mirror I see my face so stretched that I am absolutely sure that this is not my real look. And if this would be my real look I would have been bullied about this in high school. Which I am not.

I am having this problem for less then a year. I was working in an other country when a lot of people took pictures of me. I became quite depressive about this 6 months ago. I took a lot of pictures and the double mirror. I talked with a good friend of my (she’s an assistant of a doctor), which I told what was bothering me. She told me that she can see my asymmetry after searching for it but that it is really minimal.

Then I went to a friend of her which never saw me before. I asked her what do you notice about me. She was shocked that I asked her this but she said well you look a bit skinny and it looks like you look unsure about yourself. Then I asked her if she noticed anything about my face. She made a complain about my hair. Then I asked here if she notices my asymmetry in my face and she laughed and said, You do not have any asymmetry. I was happy with this answer and somehow believed people did not notice my asymmetry. I also went to a doctor and they also told me that it is very minimal and that no surgeon would want to fix me because is it so minimal.

Then I went working in an other country again for a couple of months were I had the time of my life. I met a lot of people, met some girls and felt secure about myself. Until I came back home. Someone shouted at me “”Hey guy with the crooked head”” you can not imagine how I felt.

Again I became the same insecure person as I was 6 months ago. But I somehow ignored the fact that people can notice my asymmetry. Until I went to an other city in Europe with my parents some days ago. There were a lot of people looking and starring at me, I became a bit obsessive and looked down the street if people were looking at me. Like I was some kind of painting. (perhaps I do look like a Picaso) I can tell you many examples of people who were looking at me. (Ok somehow it is normal that people are looking at each other but in my case I felt it was different)

This week I went to the doctor again. And he said that it is really minimal and he can not imagine that people can notice it at the first sight or people should also have some kind of obsession to spot asymmetric faces. He told me that a lot of girls would like a guy with a face like me. He advised me to go to a shrink. I see this as my only option.But I can not imagine that some people would see me as a person with an asymmetric face and that girls see me as an attractive person. But otherwise I do not think a doctor lies.

What I do know is that well...I would like to say that the way you see yourself is not objective. The same for the people who love you like your parents. They think you are the most beautiful person in the world, it is strange but thats the way it is.

I can post a picture of myself but I think that this won’t help. I can see myself that my face looks asymmetric.
And I won’t say your face doesn't look crooked but I think that what is the most important for us is if other people notice our asymmetry at first sight.

Sorry that I like writing Wink

If you want to talk with me you can send me a message.
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roycemalone
replied on March 4th, 2009
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between the two mirrors
there's a title for a bestseller. Extensive, professional research into this phenomenon is absolutely required. I suffer deeply along with everyone else here and would hate to think that any part of that suffering is the result of an optical illusion. I don't want to get too excited, but I just watched one of my little "face videos" in the mirror and the effect was somewhat encouraging, a rare feeling given my usual response to my image. I'm not sure if that's even the logic of it, but there's definitely something there and I would be ecstatic if such a discovery could genuinely make everybody here feel better about themselves. Maybe it's like the redemption of that intial traumatic encounter with the face between the two mirrors? Yes, our features are probably empirically skewed; but maybe, just maybe, the impression the whole face makes on others has been alright all along? I hope so. At any rate this phenomenon needs to be explained, including surveys where people rate their self-image in the different specular contexts.
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roycemalone
replied on March 4th, 2009
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between the two mirrors
Maybe I'm deluding myself, but it really does seem better when I watch my videos, intially shot straight on with a digital camera, in the mirror. In other words I hold my laptop in front of the mirror and watch what I shot directly. The defects are still there, and in my case they are extreme, I pulled my face off sucking my thumb for fifteen years, yet they seem to have lost that monstrous quality. The imperfections seem forgivable and for once I feel I could love myself. The question for me is why everyone doesn't look worse when they're shot with a camera straight on; and this makes me wonder if I'm not misapprending the logic of the phenomenon and simply deluding myself. For if that was the case wouldn't all hollywood, advertisers and models go for this effect? They obviously don't because when you see an actor on a talk show or in a paparazzi shot they usually still look good; at least not horrific like "in between the two mirrors".

Anyway I was thinking maybe there should be another category next to BDD; something like "people who have more or less asymmetrical features; but features which, because they aren't perfect, cause themselves to be inordinately magnified in certain optical situations and thus psychologically deceiving the subject into a catastrophic self-image". If this were the case the problem would be amenable to psychological intervention. A treatment should be formalized in which we learn to identify with the image that is defective but forgivable and lovable, rather than the one that is monstrous. In therapy you could even try to record yourself having conversations from the lovable perspective, in order to reverse the years of negative conditioning.
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LatinoLoco
replied on March 4th, 2009
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Went to the DR's
hey guys,

thanks for the interesting reads. Always good to know we are not alone with our constant thoughts of imperfections. I did go to the Dr. 2 days ago and reluctantly brought up the topic to him. He said that he personally did not notice it but that it was extremely common for everyone to have asymmetries throughout. He also said that if it really did bug me this much that he would recommend me to a specialist/plastic surgeon that could examine my face and run tests to see what exactly is asymmetrical and what it would take to correct it.

I think I will post pics up. Stay tuned.
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OBS
replied on March 10th, 2009
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BDD?
I have the same problem that all of you guys have. I've been dealing with it for the past two years. No one has ever said that they see the problem which really bothers me.

I have been diagnosed with BDD (Body Dismorphic Disorder). I've seen several doctors (Neurologists, Dentists, etc.) None of them were able to find anything wrong with me. Finally I was referred to a Psychiatrist who diagnosed me with BDD. I do believe this is my problem but I am also sure that my face is assymetrical. I'm learning that everyone has an assymetrical face, some more than others. But it is our minds/ emotions that make it painful/ bothersome for us. Please look into BDD before undergoing any kind of surgery.
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Saarelainen
replied on March 10th, 2009
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never again
I had my breast implants removed in september after almost 6 years. I was a 34 full C/D and am now a 34 small B. I'm torn about how I feel. I miss them, sometimes! I'm wearing padded bras until I can get use to how I look. Its a drastic change, well at least to me it is. Most people can't tell a difference, the few people I told about the surgery have said it makes me look thinner. All in all my breast look great. They are even on the bottom and have a similar volume. I said I miss them sometimes...What I don't miss is the weight of the boobs, the constant thinking about people looking at my breast, putting on a dress that fits great and won't zip over my boobs, men looking at them and not me, the way they never really felt like ME. I feel more like myself than I have in years. So there are good and bad things about having them removed. Prior to surgery, I wore a minimizer bra for a few months, which made it less obvious after the surgery. So far I don't regret the decision to have them removed. Even though when I see someone with a nice set, I feel a little remorse. In the end its a personal decision.
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SadMamma
replied on March 12th, 2009
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Plagiocephaly causes asymetrical face
I am reading these posts as a mother of a 2.5 year old beautiful girl. I recently noticed that her face was asymmetrical. I had her Dr. confirm today that it is the result of her sleeping on her back, always looking towards her right. I knew she had a flat spot but I didn't realize that it would cause her face to be asymmetrical so I didn't push for corrective treatment. Now I feel terrible because like many of you, she will notice when she is a teenager and will likely feel insecure about it. You can see it in the mirror and photographs because they are 2D planer. No one but me noticed it and it took me a week and the Dr.'s conformation to convince my husband that I wasn't imagining it. If you are interested, look up Plagiocephaly.
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empfindliches
replied on March 14th, 2009
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Ditto
I have the same mirror-prob thing and was really surprised smbody else out there has it as well..I also do have jaw assymetry n my cheekbone is flatter on d affected side,along w sm discrepancy in the eyebrows..i worried my soul out of me..but no one ever ever ever has noticed it,except in pics..
Funnily,I have had so many great guys approaching me tht I got confused too.The thing w mirrors (n esp at those angles) is tht they will exaggerate little flaws hideously.I am 21 now,n wish to get sm kind of silicone implants.It's pretty difficult to try to convince somebody tht u need an implant!! lol..
Let me know if you find some other alternative.
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mjotter
replied on March 15th, 2009
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Me too
I have the same problem too, my left side is much better than my right side. I do get people saying that I'm cute or sexy but I also get people saying I have an ugly face and what not. I started to notice this when I was about 15 when I looked in a double mirror and saw how weird my face looked from one side. My right eye doesn't even fit my eye shape and my jaw is crooked. I've read a couple of these and it surprises me that all of what I've read, it seems that the left side of everyones face is the good side. I recently read that Chinese myth says the left side of your face is how you personality really is and the right side represents how you present yourself to everyone else. I act very different in public from how I really am so I would like to know if this is true from the rest of you guys as well.
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empfindliches
replied on March 16th, 2009
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Second post!
oh wow!! Even my left side is d good side.. actually,I have undergone some reshaping,even though previously people didn't notice it..but d doc definitely acknowledged it..I believe it's due to a fall from a huge height that I incurred when I was 7 yrs old,directly hitting my right jaw on a sharp,jutting edge of a rock.Everything seemed normal for many years until I grew up,n started noticing changes in my face which always made my face look as if I were smirking.It bothered me a lot..n everyone kept putting it off.Infact I also did notice a change in my dentition.I think the entire growth pattern of one of the sides shifted.Now I wonder whether my prettier left is how I really am (looks like it,coz tht makes me more aligned with what my genes meant for me!) or my right!! People don't notice it at all now,and it also doesn't help my esteem that I'm so petite..Basically,I know I just need to accept myself,n probably not go on tv (I have been practising to become a professional singer for many years)..or may be,just be behind the scenes.lol..!
I hope to have some type of filler over my left cheek/jaw to mke me look more symmetrical,but alas,that's only when I've really settled into some career to fend for myself.My parents think it's a waste.. Sad
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empfindliches
replied on March 16th, 2009
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"Another way I see it is of course by putting a regular pic against the mirror and seeing the reflection"


LOL!! I'm glad I found this particular site!!! It's funny how we seem to have the same observations.. Smile
Now the big question is, it this normal with most people,n some just don't notice it? Are we just more conscious/aware of it?!
I hope so!!But well,the awful truth is that my pics don't appear as full and "healthy" as my other friends,even those who aren't considered very pretty... It just appears flat and silly on one side Sad..
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empfindliches
replied on March 16th, 2009
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Re: between the two mirrors
roycemalone wrote:
Anyway I was thinking maybe there should be another category next to BDD; something like "people who have more or less asymmetrical features; but features which, because they aren't perfect, cause themselves to be inordinately magnified in certain optical situations and thus psychologically deceiving the subject into a catastrophic self-image".



Yeah!! Probably giving a name to this would make us feel a lot more better,and for once decide where do we stand..
I also have noticed how other people in shops,etc seem to have normal faces when they show up on CCTVs or screens..even my other friends,they appear the same on video as they do in real life..sometimes even better..
I always tend to feel put down,thinking I may look like a coconut,and a crooked one at that..Sad And the mirror discovery 5-6 years back really hit the wall for me.I have been in self doubt and depression ever since..
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empfindliches
replied on March 16th, 2009
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Dentition
They didn't want to interfer with my dentition though,even though I have similar problems like those mentioned above (slanting,shift of central line and increased gap between upper n lower teeth on affected side)..They said it's the alignment of the teeth (misalignment,but they do meet with each other,and the only concern the doctor had is whether I could chew or not,not considering the cosmetic part of it) that has actually helped keep my TMJ somewhat in position or it might have gone even more skewed..
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jodizzle
replied on March 17th, 2009
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I'm so glad that I found this forum! I have struggled with my facial features for so long. My whole face is just uneven. My jawline is uneven which i think makes everything else on my face look uneven. The next biggest thing that looks uneven is my nose. My right nostril is way bigger than my left. Since I have realized my asymmetrical face, I've been so self conscious and what not. It depresses every moment I look in the mirror or at a picture.
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LatinoLoco
replied on March 19th, 2009
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empfindliches wrote:
"Another way I see it is of course by putting a regular pic against the mirror and seeing the reflection"


LOL!! I'm glad I found this particular site!!! It's funny how we seem to have the same observations.. Smile
Now the big question is, it this normal with most people,n some just don't notice it? Are we just more conscious/aware of it?!
I hope so!!But well,the awful truth is that my pics don't appear as full and "healthy" as my other friends,even those who aren't considered very pretty... It just appears flat and silly on one side Sad..


I am constantly searching for these abnormalities in my friends and even go as far as putting their pics up against a mirror but sadly to me they all look quite even. I am the only one with the messed up looking face Sad Then I go and look @ celebrity pics and search for the same thing. That is how sad and pathetic I have become with regards to this issue. I have been dumped in the past couple of serious relationships I have been in and now am starting to wonder if it is because these girls woke up one day and finally noticed how ugly I really am.

It is actually much worse when I smile. Makes my left cheek stick out even more and magnifies the asymmetry as a whole. I haven't built up the courage to post any pics up Sad
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LatinoLoco
replied on March 19th, 2009
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post pics?
actually is there any way to attach pics directly onto this thread or do I need to link it to another website?
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calebsimon
replied on March 22nd, 2009
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hope this helps......
i could give such an indepth explantion to why our faces become asymetrical from our early child photos to our mid twenties blah blah blah...but giving you the solution is far more simple and less stressful.
having your face lobsided to the left or right is only releative to which side of your brain is most dominant.
dominant side of brain build better neuro paths to control facial muscles in the opposite side of face.instinctively the brain triggers those muscles regurlary in responce to all your daily emotions and facial reflexes (smiling,squinting,chewing,anger,frowning etc)
years pass by and the result is muscle mass has firmed up and hel pull the skin around the contours of your jaw,cheek,eye socket blah blah blah, but the increased muscle mass has also created defined crease lines around nose, mouth eye socket and so on.
should you anaylise your facial lines when you smile you'll notice straight away.

now the weaker side of your face only has minimal muscle, with poor communication paths to your brain resulting in poor control and reflex.
you have to take note of natural facial epressions on your dominant side , study the muscles which are used. they wil be the muscles you'll need to train and build in your weaker side.
building the exact same muscle on the corresponding side will inevitably lead to a more balanced symetry.
facial muscle take about 3 months of everyday training (1hr) to become increased in mass,this muscle is built on top on the bone structure pushing the fat and skin layer up to give you more curveture around cheek bones and stop that long flattend look to the face etc.
look on the internet at muscle diagrams of the face , find out the names of the muscles you noted you need to build and train, then google the muscles and you will find specific exercises that will help you.
you will not see results in one bloody week okay... but with dedicated traing you will notice the effects around bone struct within a couple of months.
i understand how you feel but be motivated and patient, when you locate a muscle and then try to have the relaxed brain flex this muscle you may find it only twitches a tiny amount but that is good and with constant practice the twitch becomes stronger and more easily located by the brain the next time you train it and eventually the results will definately show.

remember to let the relaxed brain control the muscle as you are trying to build and strenghen neuro pathways which means this newly trained muscles becomes used instinctively by the brain when you genuinely smile etc.
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