i was looking for facial surgeons on the
web and made an online consultation in
which i left my email. the doc added me to
his messenger list and that's pretty much
how it went.
in reply to
"sounds like you're going through a
difficult time. It's crazy how these odd
anomolous adolescent developments can
really effect self-esteem. "
yeah, i was (or used to think i was)
normal before noticing my assymetry, so
it's been like hell for me. like many of u
guys, i'm always uncomfortable when
talking to people thinking that they might
notice the flaw in my bone structure. it's
a little paranoic cause probably nobody
has noticed yet (if i realized that i had
uneven cheekbones after 18 years of
looking everyday at myself, maybe it's
somehow unnoticeable, who knows).
cheers!
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Biani
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Posted: 09-08-08 12:21pm
:O!!! My pics come out in google???
noooooooooooo.... haha... that IS bad!!! i
reluctantly posted them on photobucket and
even that was with restrictions.... they
could only be accesed by the link. I took
them down a while back. Gimlet, would you
be so kind as to private message me the
link to where my pics show up?
Pleeeaseeee!!! hehe... i'm feeling
paranoid...
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hpnotiq1
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Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 9
Posted: 09-11-08 23:58pm
Biani, I also saw pics on google images of
someone who looked familiar ... Go to
google.com and type in Condylar
Hyperplasia then click on Images....
BTW, You don't look bad at all
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BEH3M0TH
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Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 1
Posted: 09-13-08 16:25pm
wow i just found this forum through google
and it seems that most of you feel how i
feel. i started noticing my jaw was uneven
back when i was 12 years old. now im 18
and have been paranoid of people noticing
my flaws for 6 years. iv even grown my
hair long to hide the left side of my face
because it is much wider then my right.
i have been going to an orthognathic
surgeon for 2 years now to get this fixd
and
have had 1 surgery to widen my top jaw to
get ready for my final. but as of today
i went to the surgeon and my previous
surgeon just retired and the replacement
surgeon said need so much done that he
cant do it alone so i have to drive to
another
city to get a 2nd opinion. and now the
surgeon told me that the surgery wouldnt
even
correct my jaw which got me really down.
im just hoping the next surgeon will give
me some hope.
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hpnotiq1
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Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 9
Posted: 09-13-08 21:09pm
Good luck with everything...
Does anyone notice that the affected side
seems to grow less hair? I seem to grow
less facial here on the affected side...
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beri
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Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 2
Posted: 09-13-08 21:28pm
I stumbled across this forum today and I
can't believe there are so many other
people out there that feel the same way I
do. I first noticed my facial asymmetries
after it was pointed out to me by a less
than tactful orthodontist around the age
of 18. I went home and studied my face,
and after looking in the double mirror, my
eyes were opened to ""THE HORROR". It has
since been pointed out to me by others
including makeup artists (one asked me if
I had ever suffered an injury to one side
of my face and acted incredulous when I
said no, another said it was difficult to
do my makeup because the two sides of my
face are so different). I’ve since
realized that it's been that way ever
since I was a young child, perhaps even
since birth, although it seems to have
gotten more severe as I aged. I'm 31 now,
and since that day, I’ve experienced
many forms of self loathing, but I've come
to accept that this is how I look, and
I’m even happy with myself on most days.
Like many of you, I've been told numerous
times that I'm attractive. I’m married
and my husband loves the way I look. Most
of the time I see myself as normal, but in
certain pictures and the dreaded double
mirror, I can easily see that my face is
very asymmetrical. My nose is skewed WAY
to the left, and the left and right sides
of my face are very different. My smile
is also crooked. I wasn’t able to see
many of the photos in this forum because
they have already been removed, but based
on the ones I did see I think my face is
VERY asymmetrical compared to most. The
thing is, I’ve come to notice that most
people’s faces are asymmetrical to
varying degrees, and it doesn’t detract
from their appearance. I still have my
bad days where I worry about how other
people see me and wish that my face were
more symmetrical, but I realize that
people’s opinion of me is based on many,
many factors. If someone doesn’t like
me because my face is crooked, then it’s
really an issue of theirs and not mine.
Now my personality… that’s another
matter but I won’t go into that here.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 09-13-08 22:55pm
In 35 years of life that I have I have
only seeing one person with an
assymetrical face and the rest are
injuries. The lady has half her face
severely disfigured by a huge birth mole
that can't be removed. After seeing that I
don't think anyone here could possibly
think of their faces to be assymetrical.
If you are expecting to have perfect
dimensions of your face well no one has
them. It is natural for face to not have
perfectly even dimension. My face is not
perfectly assymetrical and so what. I
don't care and no one cares. As you age
and you see continued change that self
conciousness of uneven face will fade
away. Wrinkles will come, gray hair will
grow so you will have to live with
accepting you gonna look old and not
pretty eventually and nothing you can do
about it unless you are very wealthy and
can afford all kinds of cosmetic
procedures. Particulary with wrinkles as
this will make your face look bad. You
will forget uneveness in a heartbeat and
focus on how to get rid of them hehe.
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japer
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Posted: 09-13-08 23:20pm
It's not something people like us can
forget about that easily. I mean, there
are few days in which i don't think about
my facial asymmetry that much. But as soon
as i see my face in a mirror i realize
that my face is not normal.
I know that 99% of the people doesn't have
perfect facial symmetry, but there comes a
point when the asymmetry is so severe that
there's no way to accept it as normal.
I've also been told several times that i'm
attractive, and that's because my
asymmetry is not noticeable at a simple
glance, but i'm sure that if somebody
looked at a frontal view photo (like the
one in the passport o the id) my uneven
face would be revealed.
Yeah, it's easy to say "accept yourself",
"who cares what other people tihnk", but
how can i except to find a long term
girlfriend if after a few dates she will
notice that she's dating someone with two
different faces? how can i expect to find
happiness that way?
i know looks are not the only thing that
matters, but it sure matters a lot.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 09-14-08 00:06am
japer
wrote:
It's not something people
like us can forget about that easily. I
mean, there are few days in which i don't
think about my facial asymmetry that much.
But as soon as i see my face in a mirror i
realize that my face is not normal.
I know that 99% of the people doesn't have
perfect facial symmetry, but there comes a
point when the asymmetry is so severe that
there's no way to accept it as normal.
I've also been told several times that i'm
attractive, and that's because my
asymmetry is not noticeable at a simple
glance, but i'm sure that if somebody
looked at a frontal view photo (like the
one in the passport o the id) my uneven
face would be revealed.
Yeah, it's easy to say "accept yourself",
"who cares what other people tihnk", but
how can i except to find a long term
girlfriend if after a few dates she will
notice that she's dating someone with two
different faces? how can i expect to find
happiness that way?
i know looks are not the only thing that
matters, but it sure matters a
lot.
If you have been told that you are
attractive I do not understand why you
even care about your uneven face. You will
absolutetly have no problems with your gf
noticing your face is not even. I had a
bf with uneven face (very attractive) that
I couldn't point in the begining his face
assymetrical until he showed me one time
with his sunglasses that his face was
indeed assymetrical. It didn't do me a
synch. I did broke up with the guy but not
because of the assymetrical face but
because of personality reasons were we had
conflict. And don't take offense for this
but I can tell you that a guy being so
concerned about uneven face is very
unatractive, I wouldn't date you. We women
like men who are SELF CONFIDENT, that no
matter they don't look perfect they think
they are good enough. That is
attraciveness and in time you will learn
this well. You still have no clue what
love is about and you will learn that in
time too.
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cloudstrife06
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Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 3
Posted: 09-14-08 13:02pm
lol wow. the thread i started by answering
one guy's question has spanned 2 yrs.
since then, i continued sleeping on the
other side of my face and also applied
pressure manually during the day. now the
cheeks are about the same!
the jaw/chin area is a bit tough to
correct. it just gives you a bad neck
injury if you try to put enough pressure.
plus, bone remodels itself if you don't
have a continuous and significant amount
of pressure applied. (that's why teeth
move back if braces aren't kept for awhile
even if they're already aligned).
the asymmetry has gone down a lot
frontally. it is almost gone now. (facial
contour). the last piece i'm looking at is
the lower jaw area. one side is thicker. i
have checked with several surgeons and
they can do a jaw shave/contouring to make
both the jawline smoother.
does anyone have any good suggestions on
surgeons who do facial contouring
procedures? i know edmund kwan in nyc does
it and he seems to have a prestigious
background. however, i've heard some
unfavorable reviews in forums where he
does what he thinks is right, not what you
want.
the best i've heard is BK Clinic in Korea,
known for working on their celebs. korea
& japan are known for the highest
quality plastic surgery. but...how will i
get there?
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dark90
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hi all Posted: 09-14-08 16:01pm
I am 18 old male, and i havent noticed my
asymmetry until 16, probably due to a fact
that i didnt payed much attention looking
myself and didnt have any camera.
At first i noticed just look weird on
photos, then that my jaw was just a little
to the right, so i tried holding my jaw to
the left. Then i realised that right side
of my jaw was overdeveloped, or other was
underdeveloped. I tried puting my beard on
flat surfaces but i couldnt put it right
but with a quite a degrees to the left. I
was taking some photos (with the mobile,
even now i dont have anything better) and
watching it reversed in mirror. I was so
horrified, it looked like my whole face
was deformed. I was in a mall once tring
some clothes, in the cabin there were two
mirrors on 90 degrees to each other. When
i saw my reflection it was like looking an
ogre. I feel so bad.
And it affects my mouth, they are beeing
pulled by jaw.
The jaw isnt everything i am afraid, i am
having the same problem as most people
here, but ony one mentioned thing about
hair. At first i thought that i was
loosing my hair, and it wasnt so scary for
my cause my dad is bald so i knew what to
espect. But the thing is i am (mostly)
loosing it (if i am loosing it at all, or
is it just face deformation) on the right
side of my face, and thats tough, i can
never make it look normal. For a while i
even shaved a part of my left side. I
would shave it every day, but i think
still you can see. Anyway i was in a such
bad mood that i shaved my entire head with
a razor blade. It didnt helpt, it still
looked very weird apart from that that
without it my bold head look scary. Now
its grown back and it looks worse than
before.
Apart from that my whole face looks
deformed but i think that thoose things
are worst.
People maybe dont notice the jaw (but
surely hair), or they simply dont want to
be rude. Whatever, even if they dont know
about jaw asimmetry i am sure that my face
looks weird to them.
I tried speaking to my mother, but she
said that there is nothing there, but when
i showed her precisely she said, oh yes i
see, but i wouldnt noticed if you havent
told me. Anyway not much help from her
when i said that i want to be looked by a
doctor.
I was thinking what my caused this. I
rememberd that i was hit hard in right
part of my jaw few years ago, but then
when i look at photoes when i was younger
i see the deformation, but not as obvius
as now. Maybe genetics? Dont know, havent
noticed on anyone in my family. Maybe
depression? And the last thing that i can
think about is teeth. My family almost
never goes to the dentist. Yeah, i
know...
So i remeber going only few, or several
times when i was child. And once again
half a year ago. The stupid thing is that
i wanted to go to the dentist, even when i
was a child, but my mother didnt find it
necessery. I have got bad teeth, maybe not
to much in wrong direction, but still bad.
But it didnt caused me any pain.
Maybe that is the reason, or all things
combined.
I hate it, its seems to be worse every
day. I allways hide my feelings and try to
look selfconfident, but i am very sad. Its
not that i care for my looks that much, i
have good friends, but the thing is when
it comes to girls, zero. My face features
are already lets just say not nice, and
with this asymmetry...
I have read whole topic, but i am not
native english speaker, can anyone
summarise what types of deformations can
be, what could coused it, who to talk to
(i mean doctors) and ways of treatments if
there are any (i sure hope there are:(
), for everyone, and me if possible?.
Anyway for my situation no money
allowed:(, barely living like this. If the
surgery is only way, better start playing
lottery:).
Its somewhat easyer knowing that i am not
the only one, i presumed that other people
may have similar problems, but i have been
avoiding searching about it...
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gimlet
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Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 16
Posted: 09-14-08 17:30pm
hypnotiq - being female, I can't
speak to facial hair, but I do notice that
I gain less weight on the affected side.
Maybe the same thing that causes the
asymmetry causes development in general,
including facial hair?
Beri You sound like you could be
my twin! Although my asymmetry developed
as a teenager. My entire right side of my
face is under developed (and body, too),
and I feel, looks quite different than the
left. And I've always gotten the sense
that my right side has an injured look
too, which lends an air of ill-health to
my overall face. It's nice to hear that
some peace can and does come at some
point, and I'm glad to hear that you have
such a supportive husband!
Japer
I totally understand why you want surgery,
because it will help you feel more
self-confidence, and that's great, if it's
not risky, extreme or going to bankrupt
you, then it can't hurt, but don't put
all your eggs in one basket of perfection
and expect your life to change hugely
post-surgery. It probably won't. You need
to develop yourself as a person, too.
As a female, I can tell you that a crooked
face would never prevent me from dating
someone. It wouldn't even stop me from
lusting over them. And I think most women
feel this way. It's true that
self-confidence and a strong sense of self
go a long way, more than a crooked or
straight face (Owen Wilson is a good
example that Kiarra brought. Guy is
hot,hot,hot, but has a jacked up face!
lol.).
I think my face is probably a thousand
times more crooked than yours, yet I've
had a boyfriend (one who was damned cute,
too) and other potential guys, too. My
ex-boyfriend (and other love interests)
never once told me I was pretty - because
I'm not - but told me that I was
cute/adorable, a reference to my
personality more than my face. We got
together because we clicked on an
intellectual level. You're more likely to
get a long-term girlfriend by developing
yourself as a person than by undergoing
surgery to correct the asymmetry in your
cheekbone, especially as you get older.
It's also worth nothing that asymmetry
won't destroy your serious relationships,
but a lack of self-confidence will -
especially if your ability to be happy
rests solely on her. Girls, like guys,
want a partner who can give equally to a
relationship, not someone they feel
depends on them. Not to mention the fact
that low self esteem can really affect
your ability to relate fully and
emotionally with your partners, because
it's so hard to open yourself up to them.
In terms of aesthetics, what's important
is not the asymmetry, but the construction
of your overall face. Sometimes a bit of
asymmetry can be cute. don't sweat it. If
people tell you you're attractive, it
means that your face is well-constructed
and that the asymmetry doesn't detract
from your face at all. If you want to post
or PM A picture, I could give you an
honest assessment of whether a stranger
notices your asymmetry and whether it's
enough to detract from how you look.
Trust me when I say that I know how you
feel. I've struggled with image issues
from about 13 onward. I receive far more
negative comments about how I look than
positive ones (very, very few positive
ones), which was a huge blow to me,
because I was a cute kid. I ended up with
some nice features, but an odd arrangement
of my face, which the asymmetry
exacerbates. There are some days where I
have difficulty even facing the world (I
still face it). So, trust me when I say
that if people thought you looked like
crap, they would tell you or not say
anything at all. If people tell you you're
good looking, they mean it! They're not
just trying to make you feel better.
Either way, good looking or not, you need
to work on yourself and learn to love
yourself, good and bad, flawed and not
flawed, before you can hope to be happy. A
good relationship will emerge from being
happy, not the other way around.
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japer
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Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 6 Location: ,
FW Posted: 09-14-08 19:36pm
dark90
the only solutions for misaligned jaws
involve orthodontists and treatments with
braces and surgery, which costs quite a
bit.
gimlet and nightangel
thanks for your words, but now i'm
confused as hell. i was already decided on
gettin surgery, but know i'm having second
thoughts.
i dont want to post any pics cause they'll
end up all over the internet like that
girl Biani, but there's a famous tennis
player (spaniard tommy robredo) with the
same problem
imagine that but with more prominent
cheekbones. well, i mean, i'm not
comparing myself with robredo, just the
cheekbones (he's supposed to be pretty
goodlooking, i mean, he was an underwear
model).
about the positive comments, trying to
think about it, i havent got any
compliments about my looks in a while. i
USED TO get them when i was at school.
i've always had the asymmetry, but i think
its gotten worse with the years. maybe
thats the reason...
anyway, thanks again for your kind words
(well, nightangel's words werent so
kind..., but thanks). i'm gonna try and
learn to live with this condition,
beginning with my selfconfidence. i know
its gonna be hard but hey, life's supposed
to be that way.
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gimlet
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Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 16
Posted: 09-15-08 00:54am
dark90 -
If it's been present since childhood, then
it might be genetic. If other people in
your family don't have the same thing then
maybe it's a mild form of hemifacial
microsomia which is anomaly that occurs in
the womb when one side of the face doesn't
develop fully. That's kind of what my face
looks like, though my asymmetry is in my
ribs too, and developed when I was a teen,
it wasn't present at birth.
it's hard to know. The best thing to do is
to speak to a maxillofacial surgeon or an
orthodontist... they might be able to help
you identify the source of the problem and
appropriate treatments. You might need
surgery, you might just need braces to
reposition your bite. Even if you don't
have money now, you might have it later
and you might be able to fix it. Depending
on what country you live in, treatment may
even be covered by your government, if
it's causing you pain (although it doesn't
sound like it is).
japer If ever you do decide to go
through with cosmetic treatments, you may
want to consider counseling first. They
might be able to help you develop your
self-confidence and subsequently decide
whether you actually want/need it. They
can also help you to develop realistic
expectations of outcomes. It might also be
helpful in dealing with post-surgery
issues like depression (common with
cosmetic surgery), should you actually
decide to go through with it. In fact, a
counselor might be helpful for your
self-esteem even if you decide not to do
surgery!
If you don't want to post pics, you can
always send them by private message.
That guy's asymmetry isn't noticeable at
all. I can see a difference in his eye,
but I question whether or not cheek
reduction would resolve it, since it looks
like his orbital might be asymmetrical
(his eyebrow looks lower and his eye looks
smaller). I could be wrong, I'm certainly
no specialist. Either way, he's not made
unattractive by his asymmetry. It doesn't
lend a air of weirdness to his face at
all.
And yeah, definitely lighten up on
yourself. Don't overthink people's
reactions either, it's a losing
proposition, unless they've made very
clear that they think you look like crap.
Not mentioning your face is not
necessarily a result of thinking you look
like an ogre.
I bet there's some girl out there who has
a massive crush on your but who hasn't
approached you because she has her own
insecurities about her butt, or her
crooked cheekbone, or whatever. ;o)
Something worth thinking about! Glad to
hear that you're going to work on your
self-confidence, though! Your looks will
fade, surgery or not, but your confidence
will stay with you forever and make you
forever attractive!
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beri
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Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 2
Posted: 09-15-08 16:29pm
gimlet – Like you, my asymmetry also
extends to the rest of my body. My whole
right side is slightly larger than the
left. I don't think it's noticeable
except in a few areas. I don't know why
that would happen - whether it's a genetic
thing or something that happened in the
womb or after birth. I usually sleep on
my right side so it's possible that could
have caused the flatness to my face on
that side, except it doesn't explain how
the rest of my right side is also larger.
Someone posted a link to a congenital
disorder that sometimes occurs where one
side of the fetus gets more blood flow
than the other and grows larger. I guess
it could be something like that. You seem
to have a pretty healthy attitude about
the whole thing, that's cool. You seem
like a very nice person.
japer - I agree with gimlet’s advice.
Develop yourself as a person, get your
self-confidence up, and you probably
won’t even care about getting the
surgery. I used to have horrible self
esteem and fantasize about all the
different surgeries that I would get if I
had the money. I know now that no surgery
would have fixed the underlying issue of
disliking myself. I have pretty good self
esteem now, and I don’t want surgery
anymore.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 09-15-08 20:05pm
I think that Robredo's cheekbones are
perfect. No assimetry whatsoever. That
guy is hot!!
Japer sorry I came across a little harsh..
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Biani
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Posted: 09-15-08 23:04pm
Wow! there have been a lot of posts since
i last checked!
hpnotiq1, thanks... i have been checking
on google by typing that, and my pics
still show up. It bothers me most that
it's the second and third pic! Why can't
they show up, say, in page 15 of the whole
thing? damn my luck! haha. I hope I HOPE
they stop showing soon...
I saw the pic of the tennis player, and
all it looks like to me is as if he's got
his head slightly to his left, and that
one eye looks bigger than the other, but,
well, that can happen to anyone with the
camera's flash, haha.
On being self concious... i'm beginning to
think we do make it into a huge deal when
maybe it's not that bad? I was freaking
out about how on earth i was going to get
close to a guy, ever!... afraid he'll
notice i'm an asymmetric freak... But i've
been dating a guy (a very cute one) and he
seems to think i'm beautiful. He tells me
all the time while staring at my face, and
i don't think he's lying, haha.
About the hair thing... i hadn't really
thought about it being related, but as a
matter of fact, i do have less hair on my
left side. My hairline is really bad, i
have a lot of "baby hairs" or whatever
they're called, really short-fine hair
that never grows, well, it's far more
scarce on my left. Also, i know i'm a girl
and i shouldn't have facial hair, but i do
have to take care of my whiskers, lol, and
i do have a lil' bit more unwanted facial
hair on my right than on my left. Since my
jaw deviates to my left... and they say
that the deviation is always towards the
affected side... Mh? coincidence?? Maybe
not!
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po
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Joined: 28 Sep 2008 Posts: 1
Posted: 09-28-08 16:24pm
Most of you guys have BDD. I have it too.
You should seriously seek out a
psychiatrist who specializes in BDD,
especially before you undergo any cosmetic
surgery procedrures.
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hpnotiq1
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Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 9
Posted: 09-30-08 14:26pm
BDD? I doubt most of us have that... When
you feel a physical difference in your
face, it's not psychological...
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gimlet
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Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 16
Posted: 10-03-08 09:49am
BDD is only diagnosed in people who obsess
over imagined defects. Most of us
don't have imagined defects - they are
clearly there and are often seen and
pointed out by other people. What people
here tend to do, myself included, is blow
them out of proportion in our own minds,
which is unhealthy, but a very far cry
from body dysmorphic disorder.
My doctor first pointed out my crooked
nose and my ortho's receptionist
mentioned, unsolicited, that my jaw pulls
to the right when I speak. Most people
agree that they can see the differences
that i point out, so it's not BDD.