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Focus on the nose Posted: 06-02-08 20:36pm
Tell me if you see anything
crooked/asymmetrical in the following
pics. Tell me which ones you think are
best.
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zlist
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ME TOO WITH A TWIST (pun intended) Posted: 06-03-08 09:53am
As a young, tall, thin teen girl I always
had people telling me I should be a model.
So at 14 I got involved in that world and
made money. I didn't realize my uneven
features until I was 22ish doing a
photoshoot and the photographer said he
say two different people on each side of
me. Stunned I went home and did what many
of you did the dreaded 3 way (which I stay
away from now...why torment myself). Sure
enough I looked freakish. Since then I
haven't worked became a mom and life went
on. I was afraid to point the unevenness
to anyone because why point out my flaws!!
Deep down I was very insecure about it
and a bit OCD (ok, I still am). After
years of oddly deep sadness over it I
broke down and mentioned it to my favorite
family member. She assured me that when
people look at me that is NOT what they
see. Over the years I have noticed my
grandpa has it, my cousin and my oldest
child. It's so true when I look at them I
DON"T see it. I have to constantly tell
myself as I do the tilt head trick for
photos and side profiles only or when
someone is talking to me straight on that
there is so much more to me than my face
and what my family member said "people
don't see that when they look at 'me'"!!
I have looked at everyones pictures some
are more obvious than others, yes. Truly
I can say that is not what I saw when I
first looked at you all and that was my
original intention to find flaws!! I am
preaching to myself here as well it's hard
to tell myself that sometimes as well.
On another front I recently went to a
modeling agency in the nearest large city
and sure enough I guess the head tilt
fooled them cause they signed me. I just
need to make some extra money for college
cause mama got to pay for it somehow!!
One more thing, due to the 3 other people
on my dad's side of the family including
my oldest child I believe it's some
genetic issue in my case.
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zlist
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I posted June 2nd Posted: 06-03-08 10:01am
I am new to this whole forum thing. Have
always tried to stay away from them but
just had to with this. Hope my last
lenghty post made it through!!
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kirrabeachbum
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zlist Posted: 06-03-08 22:53pm
can you post photo examples? A photo
tells a thousand words.
What do you think of my assymetrical nose
in the above photos?
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Posted: 06-04-08 13:09pm
Hey everyone!
zlist: I hope you can show us a pic of
you, kirra is right, a photo tells a
thousand words. I was reluctant to post
pics, but it does help everyone to give
you feedback and an honest opinion about
if it's noticeable or not.
Kirra: About your pictures, on the one
you're facing front, your chin looks
SLIGHTLY to your right. I drew some lines
on your face, and it does deviate a
little. I had forgotten i had already
pointed this out... all your last pictures
have been 3/4 and such, and on those this
chin thing isn't noticeable at all. So i
guess i have to say the best pics are the
ones in which you're not facing totally
front... although you look good in that
one too. As i said, the deviation is very
very SLIGHT.
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kirrabeachbum
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hey Posted: 06-04-08 14:59pm
could be the angle ofthe photo? maybe not
hah...notice anything about the nose?
That's where I see the asymmetry really.
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Biani
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Posted: 06-04-08 18:31pm
hey kirra
With your permission i'll upload your pic
with the lines i tell you about, so you
can see for yourself that what's actually
a little off is your chin. I'll do this
tomorrow... right now i have to go. But
really, i see nothing wrong with your
nose.
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Posted: 06-05-08 12:27pm
ok, i have the pic, but am having trouble
with photobucket... every time i try log
in it closes my browser window. Sooo, if
you want i could e-mail it to you or
something. Pm me if you want.
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kirrabeachbum
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Hey Biani... Posted: 06-05-08 19:51pm
Yea go for it...yea I do think my left
side is slightly lower than the right side
(mouth, chin, and jaw)....posting photos
for me is therapeutic...=)
There's got to be a way that I can be
satisfied within myself with having a
couple features that might be SLIGHTLY
asymmetrical....
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kirrabeachbum
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I should mention Posted: 06-05-08 19:53pm
the last two photos are what I consider my
"bad side"...if we haven't already figured
this out after a thousand and one postings
lol...
I did fracture my jaw when I was 8 years
old on my left side right near the temple
area...maybe that plays a part?
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Biani
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kirrabeachbum Posted: 06-06-08 17:33pm
hey! well, i can't access photobucket,
which is where i upload my pics... so if
you're interested in seeing those lines
drawn on your face, tell me where i can
send it to you. Or wait until i figure out
what's wrong with my computer that makes
the browser close everytime i open certain
web-pages!! lol
So you fractured your jaw, huh? well maybe
that's why your chin deviates a little. Do
you know if that deviation is recent or if
you had it since then? Do you have any
pics facing front from when you were a lot
younger? That could help to determine if
it had something to do with the fracture
or not. My guess is it does, but who
knows?
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kirrabeachbum
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hey Posted: 06-06-08 18:05pm
I never noticed any asymmetry in my nose
til last November, and I first noticed a
potential asymmetry with my face in 2003.
Hmm, I'm sure I have photos when I was
younger but they're at home and physically
in photo albums. It might have something
to do with it. Let's say it does. Is it
even worth doing anything to correct it or
what? I know my medical insurance would
pay for fixing my nose (if I wanted it)
b/c it was a deviated septum and that
could present breathing problems.
And on a scale of 1 to 100, 1 being
perfectly symmetrical and 100 being VERY
ASKEW, what would you rank my nose and
chin, honestly? ANd is my chin
asymmetrical b/c it's off center or b/c
one side is lower than the other?
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kirrabeachbum
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and Posted: 06-06-08 18:06pm
what do you all think of the symmetry in
the above pics? Especially the last two
compared to the 3rd and 4th ones??
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melancholydaye
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Posted: 06-06-08 18:25pm
i think you are fine, no worries at all,
everyone is different, and everything you
are pointing out like your chin and stuff,
i can't even tell, and i'm sure no one
else does....we all have self insecurities
though, most of them only you will notice,
and when you point them out to other
people that leads them to start analyzing
you harder and harder. i think you are
handsome and there is no reason you
shouldnt think so. : )
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kirrabeachbum
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Melancholydaye Posted: 06-07-08 11:40am
Haha thanks =)
So you don't notice anything different
about the last two photos from the prior
two? How come I do, and A LOT!?
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kirrabeach... Posted: 06-09-08 11:18am
hey! well, i just e-mailed you your pic
with all these lines... let me know what
you think of it.
I really don't think you should do
anything to correct it, it isn't
noticeable!!! As Melachlydaye said, you do
look handsome, and as i've mentioned
before, you can only tell if you have a
pic facing front and you take it and draw
lines on your face. On a scale to 1 to
100, i would rate you an 8... You're not
PERFECTLY symmetrical, but close enough to
normal symmetry in people. And really, i
just CAN'T find anything wrong with your
nose!! and i am looking soooo hard to find
what you're talking about when you say
that it scrunches, and that from one side
it looks bad, etc... i just DON'T see it!!
Your nose looks perfectly fine to me.
About your chin, it just seems to be off
center, i don't notice one side of your
face being longer or shorter, it just
looks a little to one side.
And sorry, i don't notice any substancial
difference between the pics you're asking
about. If you were to flip them i wouldn't
be able to tell your right side from your
left side.
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kirrabeachbum
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hey Posted: 06-09-08 15:01pm
If you look at the very tip of my nose, it
is slightly to my left. You can tell if
you look at that little thing above the
center of the mouth.
I'll go ahead and check my email when I'm
out of class!
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kirrabeachbum
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Jaw muscles Posted: 06-10-08 19:17pm
Does anyone ever see those people who seem
to be clenching their jaw muscles all the
time? It's fairly obvious that their
muscles are moving. Brad Pitt does this I
know...
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methos64
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Posted: 06-13-08 00:05am
Biani
wrote:
Hi All!
Methos: about the girl thing... i do think
if a very attractive girl likes you you
SHOULD pick up on her signals... haha,
never consider yourself not worthy. What i
meant is to not purposely consider
yourself TOO worthy, lol, like to dismiss
anyone who is not as attractive as your
last gf, not to mean that you shouldn't
find the next one attractive in some way
too.... well, i hope you get what i mean,
lol. Sometimes i'm just bad at
explaining.
Well, on a recent finding, i have been
getting together with some friends... and
i do make people laugh, haha, so i can't
be THAT boring. lol. New people that i've
met have really liked me and talked to me
a lot, so that makes me feel a little
better. Even though most are shocked that
i don't drink or smoke, and that makes me
look dull to them i guess. But i don't
care about that. I am self conscious about
if they're noticing that i'm all crooked
or something though
About the skinny thing... you would be
surprised. There's tons of different
tastes. Some of the girls like them
chunky, others like them muscular, and
others like them on the thinner side. It's
like if all of us girls who don't look
like a playboy playmate are doomed to have
no one like us just cause we don't have
the big boobs and booty, lol. Of course
everyone drools over those kinds of girls,
but they like other types too... i hope.
lol. I think you're taking the right
approach in this issue. Working out is
great, so what if you still look thin? as
long as you're not all weak. Plus, yeah,
clothes help out a lot.
Mh... so when you bite down you look
symmetrical? if that was my case i would
be biting down ALL the time!!!
It is all so complicated, isn't it? I
haven't gone back to the dentist yet, but
i'm sure it's going to be something weird
too. I asked a question to a dr. on an
online site, and he told me that if indeed
i have condylar hyperplasia, braces would
most likely just leave me being a jaw
cripple. Ugh, i don't know what i'm going
to do!! I'm afraid of screwing up my face
more... at least now i don't have big
issues with my jaws, like locking or pain
and stuff. Sometimes they feel tired like
yours too, but not all the time.
Oh! and he told me that by the pictures (i
attached some too) that it seems that
there is something else wrong with me
other than my jaw. I got curious about
that 'slanted nose' thing, so i checked
again. It DOES look more crooked than i
was aware of. I don't know if recently it
got more crooked, cause the last time i
checked it looked ok enough. Maybe it's a
degenerative disease that screws up your
face little by little over time? Anyone
know about a condition like this? :S
Well, let us know what the specialists
say, ok?
Opposing: Thank you for your comment, you
make me feel better about myself
Sunshine: I guess it depends on what is
causing your asymmetry to know if there's
any way to fix it. We ourselves are trying
to discover if our asymmetry is fixable
someway. What's asymmetrical about
yours?
yea i get ya haha.. to me i just dont
really think about being in a
relationship. or starting one. so i just
dont really think about it at all really.
but since we were talking about that area
of stuff. thats when i was just thinking
like hmmm. what would i do?
yeah see i dont smoke, drink, party, etc.
so im sure someone thinks im boring. but
really im just more still than most.
yeah ive seen that quite a bit with guys.
to me the way they scope out chicks. to me
that just seems really lame. but i
suppose if i were to do that, the main
thing i'd focus on is the face.
so if the face attracts me, then nothing
else matters much.
yeah i figure working out is the right
thing to do.so i keep at it.
well the orthodontist said when i bite,
that my teeth align properly but when i
relax, my lower teeth kinda move over to
the left. so i dont think my face looks
straight no matter what i do.
well i went to a dentist/surgeon/doctor
about my issue. hes the head chairman of
so and so.
and he said the orthodontist was wrong.
that my left jaw didnt just dissapear.
that it was a genetic defect. where my
right side of my jaw grew more , while the
left stopped.
i forgot what he said the name was, cause
he kept it really down to earth, so i
would understand.
basically the solution is that i would
need to be on braces for 9 months. to have
my teeth be alligned and basically
perfect. then once they are perfect , that
he will then do the surgery. in which he
will wire my teeth together and just
rearrange my jaw. and put screws and
plates in there. that ill be knocked out
during the procedure. when i awake, my
mouth wont be wired shut. so i can move my
jaw up and down and talk normally. that i
should be out of the hospital the next
afternoon, that for like 2 months ill be
seeing him frequently to make sure all
goes well. once my face is healed. that i
will be put back on braces for several
more months. which would be working
specifically on certain teeth. to make
sure my bite is just right.
so the whole thing will take about 22
months total. and once thats all done
with, that i have the choice of having the
screws taken out or just leave them in
place.
now the freaky part is, that theres no
cutting or slicing involved. its all thru
the mouth. so to me thats like whoa! 0_o
though first things first. is that i need
a bone scan of my face. to make sure my
jaw isnt still growing. if it is, then he
said we will wait another year and then do
another bone scan. but that if the bone
stopped growing. then we can go ahead with
the procedure.
but that its not a bone disease, that i
wont die from it lol. so that i can wait
till im ready and pepared for it all. as
well as have the insurance and what not
taken care of.
so thats officially my situation. which to
me is damn scary but i mean i dont want to
live out the rest of my life with a
crooked face or have my teeth wind up
being even more out of whack.
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methos64
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Posted: 06-13-08 00:26am
J__
wrote:
hi guys, im glad theres more
ppl out there with this problem haha. well
i guess its not the best thing lol. I have
the same issue, i noticed it around the
age of 17 or so, im 25 atm. I started
noticing through photos and reverse mirror
images, however in everyday looking in the
mirror, i dont notice it. I believe this
is because the change is so gradual that
your brain gets used to it and since the
image through the mirror is always 1
direction, you dont notice the asymetrical
difference. It's when you look at an
inverted image, ie:photo, or double
mirror, that you notice the difference.
All my friends and family think im nuts
when i tell them my face is lop sided
because i guess with them, its the same as
they gradually comprehend the change, they
dont see it.
with me, my right side is longer than the
left, my muscles on that side is more
developed as well. feels like my whole
right side of the face is melting
downwards while the left is being
compressed haha. the upper jaw line is
almost crooked, along with my eyes now =(
WHYYYY! i used to be attractive hahaha.
i didnt notice any significant change in
my lifestyle that could of caused this.
however when i was 15 or so i did bonk my
head on the bottom of the pool pretty damn
hard when i dove in the shallow end... yea
pretty stupid... could that of caused some
nerved dmg or something? anyone else bonk
their head? lol
i believe you have what i have. where one
side grew longer than the other.
the 'cant' as the doctor told me is not
balanced. and ur lower jaw is also
crooked. its of course more noticeable
when you smile. but from the frontal
pic, i can clearly see that one side kinda
droops down lower than the other.
i dont think it makes u unattractive
though. from the side angles, i didnt
notice the imbalance.