omg sorry for the 3rd pic i look like a
set extra on LOTR or something...
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Biani
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Posted: 04-29-08 11:03am
Hey methos!
Well, i don't know if you should 'settle'.
I guess everyone is better off not looking
at people in terms of 'attractiveness'
like that. It's unfair to whatever girl
you might come across next, to be
comparing her to your gorgeous ex, know
what i mean?
See? you DO have something special about
you, you just have to remind yourself of
your good points.
Physically i was paranoid about my
skinniness too, and was actually kind of
proud of my face. I thought it was the one
thing that was ok about my appearance. And
now that i'm not THAT skinny anymore and i
don't worry about that like i used to(i
used to be waaay more skinny), NOW i
realize my face is all picasso like. Ugh.
About the boring thing, well, my xbf used
to think that anything we did together
would be GREAT if he did it with someone
else, or with friends. And the things we
did together he would say they were 'ok'
but not a great thrill. Well, duh.
Watching movies, playing videogames,
walking the dog, etc... etc... aren't
exactly a big rush. Aaaah, screw him. I'm
just not the party type, but neither is
he. That doesn't make me boring. If he
didn't enjoy my company it's his problem.
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Biani
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Posted: 04-29-08 11:10am
TooMas: ok, yours is total paranoia. I
just took your pics and did the whole line
thing on your face, and EVERYTHING is
symmetrical.
Mmh.. point out something i don't like?
Tough!! I actually think you look very
cute. I don't find anything 'wrong' with
your face.
About the age thing, i would guess you're
anywhere between 18 to 24.
On the first pictures it's kinda hard to
tell if your nose is crooked or not
because of the light on your face. On the
indoors ones it's a lot easier... and
trust me, you're perfectly normal.
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methos64
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Posted: 04-29-08 13:35pm
Biani
wrote:
Hey methos!
Well, i don't know if you should 'settle'.
I guess everyone is better off not looking
at people in terms of 'attractiveness'
like that. It's unfair to whatever girl
you might come across next, to be
comparing her to your gorgeous ex, know
what i mean?
See? you DO have something special about
you, you just have to remind yourself of
your good points.
Physically i was paranoid about my
skinniness too, and was actually kind of
proud of my face. I thought it was the one
thing that was ok about my appearance. And
now that i'm not THAT skinny anymore and i
don't worry about that like i used to(i
used to be waaay more skinny), NOW i
realize my face is all picasso like. Ugh.
About the boring thing, well, my xbf used
to think that anything we did together
would be GREAT if he did it with someone
else, or with friends. And the things we
did together he would say they were 'ok'
but not a great thrill. Well, duh.
Watching movies, playing videogames,
walking the dog, etc... etc... aren't
exactly a big rush. Aaaah, screw him. I'm
just not the party type, but neither is
he. That doesn't make me boring. If he
didn't enjoy my company it's his
problem.
well i meant more in the sense that lets
say theres one girl that likes me and is
very very attractive. its like should i
even pick up on her signals. should i
bother at all? or just ignore her because
i feel im too hideous or not worthy lol.
or wait till an average looking girl does
the same thing. to where i would feel like
ok shes more in my league.
cause usually when i like a girl, its
always the personality that clicks first.
and from there i base whether spending
time with this person is the thing that
seems natural. and the way they look is
just a plus. but i mean appearance does
matter, because u have to look at that
significant other each time they are
around you. so its not like u can quickly
dismiss their physicality. which is why im
always contemplating whether i meet the
standards of being a semi attractive guy
that would match with so and so person.
yeah i later became aware of why people
even like me. or call me their favorite.
so i honestly like myself. and i think my
build is ok. just gotta workout more and
itll get there. but my face is what i
think is ok aside from the crookedness. i
mean my mom says i enherited a big nose.
but i think my nose is the right size. so
im not too picky about things like that.
i was paranoid about my body too. being
skinny isnt really what you perceive as
people being drawn to. so whenever i hear
girls all drooling over some guy with the
big muscles and what not. well it just
makes it seem like theres no place in the
world for a skinny frail person.
i dont mind my skinniness as long as im
not all weak and frail. cause i see myself
as easily getting a hernia or pulling
something from lifting something heavy
that wouldn't be heavy to the common
man.but unlike the face, people dont
really see your body on a daily basis.
cause ur always wearing clothes or a coat
and such. while the face you cant hide at
all. sunglasses is about the only thing
thats accessible.
hah damn. this ex-boyfriend sounds like
such a drag.
the only thing i ever did with my
ex-girlfriend, was watch movies at either
her place or mine. sometimes hang out with
people. but we didnt really do anything in
terms of epic activities. i was just happy
spending time with her and talking to her.
just overall enjoyed her company.
cause ive never gotten drunk or done drugs
of any kind. never partied hard. i was
always the silent type. sometimes seen as
anti-social. but i just never really had
anything to say.
theres certain topics and subjects that
its like yeah i could carry on for an hour
just saying stuff. but for the most part i
just kept to myself.
and there are other people that are the
same way, and thats what has them go and
seek me out. cause they know i wont get
them into trouble or joke around with
them.
so its probably more of him wanting more
excitement or just be plain reckless. i
dont see it being your fault at all. so i
still dont know how it is that your
boring. you may not be the life of the
party, but that doesnt really put you in
the place of dull ,boring,and
uninteresting.
well i saw an orthodontist this morning.
and he looked me over first. and said that
when i bite down everything is
symmetrical, but when im not biting down,
that my lower jaw shifts to the left.
causing the asymmetry.
once he took the x-rays he was explaining
to me. that my right side is longer than
the left side. that the 'neck' as he
called it, is like 1 and a half
centimeters (i think it was centimeters)
shorter than the right.
that he doesnt know what could have caused
that. maybe a hit to the face on the left
side. i told him i dont recall ever being
hit in the face or falling on my face. i
bruise easily so if i had a punch to the
face, i think itd show up somehow.
that for some unknown reason my left side
is just shorter. so if i were to get
surgery, he said that they cant shorten
the right side, cause my teeth would
prevent that from working out at all.
that theyd have to put something to even
out the left side with the right. but
heres where it gets tricky. from the xrays
and when he looked at me earlier. he said
my teeth are definitely not straight, but
that they align properly when i bite down.
that my teeth are just fine even with all
thats going on with the jaw.
so if they were to make my left side the
same length as the right. that my lower
teeth would of course be moved over some
and that thatd leave a gap and i couldn't
bite down at all. cause thered be that
empty space.
so he was kinda baffled by it. he
scheduled an appointment for me on May 9th
(might have to reschedule that though) ,
to see the specialists. with the doctor
who is like the head chairman and has
years of experience and knows all the
studies, etc. etc.
that i could very well be a case study to
medical students, which would cut down
costs lol. not sure if i would want to be
a guinea pig. and have my crookedness be
seen by all.
so its quite a pickle im in. i asked the
orthodontist if my condition would get
worse over time. he said he wasnt sure. he
asked if i had any issues now. which is
like 0_o
i mean aside from the crookedness. my jaw
muscles around my whole lower face just
seem to get tired (which never happened
before unless i was constantly chewing non
stop thru out the day) then of course
theres the fact that i can no longer move
my jaw to the left or to the right. only
up and down.
so its like i dunno if i would call those
issues. cause its not painful. but from
the way he described it. it seems that the
left side of my jaw is being held together
by all that is in my face. otherwise you
could say its just dangling there. but
since ive been this way for a few years
now. it seems to be tightly held.
so im just like damnit. cause it just
seems like a big mess. he knew that more
than likely id have to go thru the
surgery. cause nobody wants to have an
asymmetrical face but then again no one
wants to go thru the trauma of surgery and
having to fork over thousands of dollars.
he seems very confident in the doctors he
referred me to. so they should know whats
best for me in the long run.
my mom said that if surgery is needed,
that she will do whatever it takes to get
the money. and my dad of course will do
what he can to help out. cause he knows
that itd suck to have a crooked face for
the rest of your life. and that id regret
it down the road if i have more
complications because i ignored the whole
thing.
so yeah thats why my face is crooked.
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methos64
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Posted: 04-30-08 00:22am
@TooMas
to me your nose seems to point slightly to
one side. but you say its not at the tip.
so maybe its just from the lighting. but
to me it seems like the tip of your nose
is slightly over to one side. i notice
some difference when i look closely at
your nostrils.
but really thats nothing. you shouldn't be
the least bit worried about that cause its
not noticeable unless someone is focusing
heavily on your nose. cause it certainly
doesnt stand out just by looking at you.
but because u said that something might be
off with your nose, thats why i noticed
something. otherwise i'd never have
thought, 'hey his nose is funny looking'
as to how old you look...to me you seem
like your a teenager.
with what i dont like... cant say theres
anything i dislike about your face. in
some of them you remind me of the actor
Ewan McGregor.
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opposingrhythms
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Posted: 05-03-08 17:57pm
I'll make this short
Biani, great to see you posting so
confidently. Again I can't stress enough
how your positive features(the attractive
aesthetics) overpower the asymmetry.
Methos, I've written a few drafts on you
but keep being sidetracked...heh Generally
I'd say the same thing as I did for
eveyone else, When first viewing your
photos I notice your hair stlye, glasses,
skin tone, "the pizza" way before
(seconds/ glances) before I notice the
asymmetry.
Also you're right, you do appear thin
which stresses the asymmetry of your bone
structure which is a factor.
Also the only way I notice your nose
asymmetry is under close inspection.
If possible try to post a full frontal
with a higher res camera lit either in
indirect sunlight or using two lamps on
both sides of your face ( no shadows),
that's if you want a more accurate
analysis.
For some reason I can't see photos from
TooMas at the moment.
Oh and Anenome, feel free to PM me if you
ever want my opinion, no pressure however.
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sunshine0283
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Posted: 05-03-08 18:00pm
hi, I have an asymetrical face too, and it
shows when ever i take a picture of
myself. Is there any form to fix this
problem??Do I have to take surgery and how
hard it is??
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Biani
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Posted: 05-04-08 11:54am
Hi All!
Methos: about the girl thing... i do think
if a very attractive girl likes you you
SHOULD pick up on her signals... haha,
never consider yourself not worthy. What i
meant is to not purposely consider
yourself TOO worthy, lol, like to dismiss
anyone who is not as attractive as your
last gf, not to mean that you shouldn't
find the next one attractive in some way
too.... well, i hope you get what i mean,
lol. Sometimes i'm just bad at
explaining.
Well, on a recent finding, i have been
getting together with some friends... and
i do make people laugh, haha, so i can't
be THAT boring. lol. New people that i've
met have really liked me and talked to me
a lot, so that makes me feel a little
better. Even though most are shocked that
i don't drink or smoke, and that makes me
look dull to them i guess. But i don't
care about that. I am self conscious about
if they're noticing that i'm all crooked
or something though
About the skinny thing... you would be
surprised. There's tons of different
tastes. Some of the girls like them
chunky, others like them muscular, and
others like them on the thinner side. It's
like if all of us girls who don't look
like a playboy playmate are doomed to have
no one like us just cause we don't have
the big boobs and booty, lol. Of course
everyone drools over those kinds of girls,
but they like other types too... i hope.
lol. I think you're taking the right
approach in this issue. Working out is
great, so what if you still look thin? as
long as you're not all weak. Plus, yeah,
clothes help out a lot.
Mh... so when you bite down you look
symmetrical? if that was my case i would
be biting down ALL the time!!!
It is all so complicated, isn't it? I
haven't gone back to the dentist yet, but
i'm sure it's going to be something weird
too. I asked a question to a dr. on an
online site, and he told me that if indeed
i have condylar hyperplasia, braces would
most likely just leave me being a jaw
cripple. Ugh, i don't know what i'm going
to do!! I'm afraid of screwing up my face
more... at least now i don't have big
issues with my jaws, like locking or pain
and stuff. Sometimes they feel tired like
yours too, but not all the time.
Oh! and he told me that by the pictures (i
attached some too) that it seems that
there is something else wrong with me
other than my jaw. I got curious about
that 'slanted nose' thing, so i checked
again. It DOES look more crooked than i
was aware of. I don't know if recently it
got more crooked, cause the last time i
checked it looked ok enough. Maybe it's a
degenerative disease that screws up your
face little by little over time? Anyone
know about a condition like this? :S
Well, let us know what the specialists
say, ok?
Opposing: Thank you for your comment, you
make me feel better about myself
Sunshine: I guess it depends on what is
causing your asymmetry to know if there's
any way to fix it. We ourselves are trying
to discover if our asymmetry is fixable
someway. What's asymmetrical about yours?
I have had the same problem and it has
bothered me for many years. Oddly enough I
have also had a great deal of attention
from woman. Friends tell me that some
women have not been confident enough to
approach me - women I though were too good
for me!.
Having this uneven face has always robbed
me of confidence and I shy away from
relationships fearing that she may someday
notice what I see in the mirror.
Moving on, I saw a plastic surgeon who
suggested botox citing that it was an
overgrown jaw muscle. I began treatment in
2004 and have seen the muscle gradually
reduce in size. However hypertrophy has
occured with the jaw bone itself - much
like weight lifting your bones become
thicker to support the increase in muscle
size. With the botox having reduced the
muscle size, the bone is now gradually
going in to distrophy but very slowly, so
my face remains uneven but not to the
extent it was before. I think further
treatments may get me to a point where the
difference will be hard to notice.
P.s: Unlike before I seem to be getting
away with looking "normal" in pictures
now.
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Biani
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Posted: 05-12-08 12:19pm
Hey!
JBNJ, I really don't think it's
noticeable. Well, the first pic i couldn't
see, on the 2nd and 3rd one i even
wondered which one was you, i definitely
couldn't find anything 'weird' about
anyone on the pic. On the last 2, you're
alone, so i finally knew which one is you.
It's really not obvious just by looking at
you. Maybe if i did the whole drawing of
the lines thing on your pic i would see
what you're talking about. I think that in
the last pic i can tell a little bit, but
i think it's mainly becase i know what to
look for. Otherwise i'm pretty sure i
wouldn't have noticed.
I want to share a discovery of mine with
you guys. I just discovered a girl i know
has a deviated jaw as well. I worked with
her for a couple of months, and i NEVER
noticed. But the other day i was looking
at pictures of a gathering we had at work,
and i was looking at MY deviated jaw, when
i saw her face next to mine, it dawned on
me.. heeeey, she's got what i have! Well,
i don't know if it's the same reason, but
her chin isn't aligned either. And i had
looked at those pictures before, but i
HADN'T noticed! So I'm hoping just as i
hadn't noticed it on her, that most people
don't notice it on me, or on you guys
either.
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marab
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Posted: 05-13-08 10:51am
I also have a completely asymmetric
face....it's like one side of my face grew
one way and the other grew another...and
one side grew a little more as well. So
my entire right side is higher and smaller
than the left side of my face.
I had jaw surgery to correct my jaw at
least 2 years ago and make my teeth level.
The surgeon (or his fool resident who
probably did the surgery) did the worst
job ever - and every surgeon I have seen
for an opinion has agreed. He didn't make
it level or fix it at all. Plus he messed
up my bite in the process. And I now have
no feeling in my bottom lip or lower
face.
Well, now I am 29 about to be 30 and the
thought of being in braces and going
through ANOTHER jaw surgery, breaking the
bones, being wired shut, the whole ordeal
is horrifying. So I have seen a top
cosmetic surgeon about implants and some
other things.
But I know that won't fix my jaw and smile
and every time I see it, especially in the
"reverse double mirrors" thing I cry.
Literally cry. The other day I saw myself
on video and how my whole face
slants...and it looks worse the real way
people see me and in pictures, because my
face is like running downhill.
So now I don't know what to do, because I
know trying to camoulflauge will not
really correct the underlying skeletal
structure and will still look "off."
That's why I HAD jaw surgery in the first
place. But I'm about to be 30 and don't
really have many years of "hotness" left
and I am not spending them in braces and
having jaw surgery which may make me more
level, but then I'll just be a more
symmetrical person who is still not nearly
as attractive as any of my friends.
Basically the whole thing makes me hate my
looks, hate doing anything socially, hate
getting ready in the morning, hate finding
a great outfit and good shoes and getting
my hair blown out all nice, only to have
it all ruined by my face.
And no, I don't think it's "hideous" nor
do I feel like I look like a "monster" nor
are these "perceived" or " imagined"
flaws....there are just some girls who are
gorgeous and others who are not....and I
am never going to be classified as one of
the ones who is and I hate that every
single day.
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opposingrhythms
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Posted: 05-14-08 22:49pm
I'm sad for your troubles Marab. I
understand what you mean...
Basically
the whole thing makes me hate my looks,
hate doing anything socially, hate getting
ready in the morning, hate finding a great
outfit and good shoes and getting my hair
blown out all nice, only to have it all
ruined by my face.
However despite my asymmetric looks, I've
recently began caring more about my looks,
hair style, clothing (what's in, what's
not for the summer etc..)
Sometimes I wonder.. why even bother...
But then I remember my original child-like
fascination with it all, the fact that
sincerely feel better when I put effort
into these things, and people I care about
actually notice these efforts and give me
compliments.
As important as the face is, you can't
forget how important your confidence is, (
however you decide to show it) you could
be one of the "ugliest" people in the
world and be absolutely intriguing to
people around you.
I really it's that connection with people
that we all want... right?, pure looks is
one way and perhaps the easiest way to
achieve that but I think there are deeper
pools we can tap to get that connection.
I hope I made sense. Feel free to post
pictures here! You're welcome to PM me if
you want my opinion which I love giving
too.
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opposingrhythms
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Posted: 05-14-08 23:01pm
JBNJ, oH I just noticed your pictures.
I wouldn't worry about a thing if I were
you. When I did notice your jaw issue , I
thought "oh, his jaw is a little off",
it's not a big deal man.
I wasn't even phased by it.
If you've got more straight on pictures
feel free post please.
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JBNJ
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Posted: 05-15-08 01:52am
I appreciate the feedback. It definately
helps. I'm gonna see if I have any
straight on shots.
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kirrabeachbum
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JBNJ Posted: 05-15-08 07:26am
Your face looks normal to me. Good jaw
line as well.
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kirrabeachbum
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New photos Posted: 05-15-08 08:08am
Okay, my face looks pretty much perfectly
symmetrical from straight on, but when I
turn it to the left and then to the right,
I can see asymmetry, but only with my
nose. Everything on my face looks
symmetrical except for the nose, and I
know I have a deviated septum.
The first two photos are of my good side
and the third and fourth pics are of my
bad side. And by bad side I mean my nose
looks funked up.
I think they exemplify how my face looks
asymmetrical, er really my nose. My left
side is my bad size. Most days I don't
really think about it but every week or so
I usually have an hour or two where it's
ALL I think about!
So have a look and let me know what you
guys think.
Cheers.
T
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JBNJ
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Posted: 05-23-08 12:34pm
I watched a few of your videos and the
only thing I've noticed after really
looking hard at your face isn't really
your nose as much as it seems like your
left cheekbone "comes out" more than your
right.
But that's only after close examination
and even after noticing that I only did
for a second and then never noticed again.
Your a funny dude too, the male model
video was the funniest so your personality
will overshadow any assymetry you feel you
have.
Like everyone else has said, you're
completely fine and you are THE MOST
normal looking person here. lol. Hope
this helps man.
