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Paul86
on March 21st, 2008
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What do you mean by demons and demonic possession?

Also, the bible isn't meant to be taken literally, if you know what I mean.
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Sinc17
replied on March 22nd, 2008
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I dont want to scare anyone, But once i had a insights
then i saw the eyes of somthing (maybe a demon), After that I felt alot better
It felt like somthing was leaving me, not somthing good
Maybe I was hallucinating, I dont know man
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randomthoughts
replied on March 22nd, 2008
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Ok, I'm just going to throw this out here again like I did in another thread but just a little shorter...

We have the technology now to torment people to no end... mind reading and manipulation, visual surveillance from space. No alien or religious influence needed. The technology exists publically, though in deceptively primitive forms.

For me, its just too obvious. And it seems that anyone who is in a disadvantaged position, having rubbed people the wrong way like I did, or is mentally ill, weak, unintelligent, overly religious, gullible, weird, whatever, could be a victim. Look at websites like TMZ.com and the interest people seem to have in other people, the media frenxy the Elliot Spitzer fiasco has generated... and the TV show Face the Truth on FOX... people ENJOY and are entertained by the embarrassment of others.

Now, lets not get overly negative here... but there is enough people in society who just don't give a crap about us and are "just having fun", thinking that "it doesn't matter" because "we don't know this person", "we'll never have to worry about retribution", etc.
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Galaxy
replied on March 22nd, 2008
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I read your post in the other thread, too, randomthoughts, and I am still a little uncertain as to who it is who is torturing, manipulating and watching us from space. Can you explain that to me? A religious person might be forgiven for thinking you were talking about some sort of deity.
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randomthoughts
replied on March 22nd, 2008
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Hi Galaxy... government for certain, but I also believe there are civilian organizations that have access to this technology as well. It could be satellite based, or land based from a lengthy distance. It's real people.

For me its just too obvious... comments I hear when things are coming through particularly clear like...

"Do you think I'll ever have anything to worry about from these people?"
"Nah I don't think so... your married so you should be fine."

"Haha, this guy reminds me of a kid we've been watching in Egypt."

"Oh my God this is so awesome! You can do this!? Holy ****! And nobody cares?"
"Nah, the kid screwed up his relationships, we've got a lot of insurance here and the voices in his head won't shut up so we should be fine. He's ******* dude. Just like all these other freaks. Love it."

Rolling Eyes
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Paul86
replied on March 23rd, 2008
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There are different forms of control.

Feeding ignorance is a form of torture.
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Reptar
replied on March 23rd, 2008
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The problem with religious people believing they are possessed is that they believe only god can help them, but he obviously hasn't since they're coming here. If you want to believe in all of that, go to a church and get help there.
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Galaxy
replied on March 23rd, 2008
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Is it not the case that genuine schizophrenics do not tend to think along the lines of being possessed, as that would be too inward-looking, but more along the lines of being oppressed - by society, the government etc? It makes me wonder whether these religious zealots who claim to have been possessed by evil are little more than attention-seeking hysterics.

But I am prepared to be corrected.
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Philo
replied on March 25th, 2008
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Galaxy wrote:
It makes me wonder whether these religious zealots who claim to have been possessed by evil are little more than attention-seeking hysterics.


I am not a religious zealot and I seem to be posessed by evil. I do not seek attention.
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harmony1
replied on June 14th, 2008
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Re: I Suffered From a Year Long Bout With Schizophrenia
dressedinblack wrote:
When I was 16 I played around with a ouija board and one of the ghosts I was talking to suddenly began to talk to me in my head. He would sometimes control my body and I would move around and act irrationally. I would follow what he told me to do.


Eventually he told me he was an 'angel' and then 4 more voices came to me, each of them angels, giving me names, azrael, raphael, gabriel, michael and lucifer.

They all had a unique personality and all had a personal appearance they described. I started to occasionaly see them. I would laugh and react to what they said and my parents locked me up.


After 3 weeks in the mental ward I was let out because I feigned a recovery to pursue "obeying" the voices. But the first week there, I was publicly undressing myself as the angels asked me to, saying, " this will prove your faith." they gave me tests, and I would do what they said. At one point I tried to break out and run onto the rooftop and throw myself down and they said I would fly away to heaven.


I was caught on the stairwell and they secluded me in a room called the "quiet room", which had a tiny window with a camera watching me to make sure I don't hurt myself. They sedated me with a shot. The doctors tried numerous meds and none worked.

I felt physical sensations like wings being ripped out of my back and sprouting, and I grew convinced I was pregnant and carrying the antichrist as a strange lump in my thumb, and it was getting weirder and weirder.

I also started to believe I would not stop gaining weight if I drank water so I stopped drinking or eating and lost nearly 30 pounds, and of course this led to a consecutive hospitalization in which I was ready to die because I would believe some horrible piece of nonsense for a few months, then i'd learn it was false and i'd feel horrid.


By age 17 I had stopped taking any meds because the side effects were making me sicker. I do not reccomend this, it rarely leads to good. I was crazy for a while still but then by the summer of '05 when I turned 18 it all went away.


I think that demonic possesion is not possible. My case sounded a lot like some kind of bizarre godly intervention at times and at points people believed I might have been possessed, but repeated visits with a priest and blessings of the house did nothing. In the end, it went away on its own but though the schizophrenia is in remission and it might have been a one time episode, I am still at risk.


Now here's a word of advice. You are not possessed, it is humiliating to endure all the nonsenese the church puts you through if they think you are. In the long run, the illness takes on a bizarre form that mocks you and tries to make you not treat it.


Do not let other people that are sick convince you otherwise, you need meds and help and I hope yours fades with time so you can go on to lead a normal life as I have done.


I 100% agree with you. i had a psychotic episode and after i had the right medication the symptoms went away.
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MrX82
replied on January 14th, 2009
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read this
I also have had all the "symptoms" as you would call it... but I read something called Project Blue Beam...read about it. This may help you figure out what you may possibly be going through. I'm still not sure what went on with me but this makes me wonder. I won't spoil it but you definitely should read about it.
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wersmiln
replied on January 25th, 2009
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sobering subject
I am studying to be a rehabilitation therapist and just last semester took Abnormal Psyc. which covered schizophrenia. I have a close friend who's mother suffers from it and so am somewhat familiar with the symptoms. I know that there are people who are very against the whole idea of there being a God but they are in the minority. Most of the world does believe there is a God (or gods).

I have seen a pattern (which I am considering researching further). Most, if not all of the people who have schizophrenia have "opened the door" by one means or another (drug use, dabbling with the occult, being promiscuous, etc)or had the door opened for them (abuse, molestation etc.)

Those of you who want to offer help- please do not insist that these entities, demons, spirits do not exist. They do. Think how it makes the person living with them feel being told they are imagining it or whatever other strange theories are out there.

God is real. The devil and evil are real. People walk around the elephant in the kitchen pretending it doesn't exist. Why do people get so emotional and rant and rave when spiritual things get brought up? Why can't they just calmly disagree and not care? What is with the anger and hostility?

If you, sadly are suffering with the symptoms of schizophrenia...there have been some very helpful posts here already.
1. Dedicate or rededicate your life to God (He's a gentleman; He doesn't go where He's not wanted.)
2. Try to do what pleases Him (and is good for you!) Stop doing illegal drugs, practicing Wicca or anything you can think of that you did in the past that may have "opened the door".
3. Forgive! If anyone neglected, abused or hurt you-forgive them for YOUR sake. We only hurt ourselves when we hold onto being bitter and nursing our hurt. Forgiving does not mean what they did was ok. It does not let the person off the hook. It frees YOU from the bondange that unforgiveness traps you into.

It goes back to what many of us learned as children...God IS good (and kind and merciful) and He does absolutely love His children. He aches for us to reach out to him. He WANTS to have a relationship with us and to be a part of our lives. I have been through many tragedies in my life and God was always there (even when I pushed Him away!)

It is human nature to want to be THE BOSS, the captain of the ship, the master of our own fate. We Americans have the unique luxury of deceiving ourselves into thinking we can be independent of God and even deny His existance because of our prosperity. Other parts of the world are not so fortunate. Try watching your town be bombed and seeing members of your family die. You start to get an inkling that your NOT immortal nor are you invincible...and maybe, just maybe...it might be worthwhile to consider the possibility that Someone greater that you or I exists and maybe just maybe HE is the boss whether we are willing to admit it or not.

I know there will be some who disagree with me. In America we are taught to be "tolerant". Then why is it that Christianity is under attack? Why do public schools preach evolution like it's an established fact when it has not been proven? Because its the best thing the secular world can come up with to deny God's existance. How sad when a society tells their children they're animals. The more Christian values are erased from our society the worse it gets. Compare children's manners in the grocery store in the 50's to what you see now...

Please do not change your vitamins, do yoga, or vacuum as it is a waste of your time.

Just cry out to God and ask Him to help. He sees your suffering, He is grieved by it. But He will not take away your free will. If you don't want Him, (or want Him to help but want to continue to "live like hell") don't be shocked when you continue as you are.

He will not force anyone to love or accept Him. Pray that He will heal you and protect you from anything that is "untrue". Dealing with forces of darkness is not a "power" encounter, it is a "truth" encounter. Examine yourself to see if you have inadvertantly been believing things that are untrue (Ex: I'm unlovable, who would want me, God is mad at me or can't forgive me, I can't forgive so and so because I'm still hurt and angry).

Take your thoughts captive. Think about what you're thinking about. Is it "from the pit"? Then reject it. If you hear thoughts like "you're so ugly (or fat or rotten or whatever)" say to yourself.. Maybe I am and maybe I'm not but God loves me anyway and is a big enough God to forgive anything!
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wersmiln
replied on January 25th, 2009
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additional note
I realized that I may have appeared to contradict myself by saying God is a gentleman and does not go where He isn't wanted....and then God was always there for me even when I pushed Him away.
To clarify, I came to the Lord when I was a child but drifted away during my college years. He was always there holding His hand out to me, patiently waiting for me, and did not give up on me. He did not however take away my free will. I drank and partied and had boyfriends and developed a bondage of fear which He freed me from after I rededicated my life to Him.
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wersmiln
replied on January 25th, 2009
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Also important:
Christians can suffer from schizophrenia when they are living contrary to the way they should which explains why many of them have made comments about spiritual things. We can know things of God "in our head" and not follow Him with our "heart".
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clayhughes
replied on February 10th, 2009
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the truth
The biggest and best trick that the devil played on mankind was to make you beleive that he did not exist. that's all you need to remember. use it like a sword.
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maltesers
replied on February 21st, 2009
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the real explanation
Someone with the power to release their mind has done so and speaks to you all. Ideas of evilness/ the Devil/possession and any other religious ideas at all and also images/dreams you may see were created by them in order to hide the power they found to do this. I know this as have this person in my head.- It's actually Hitler's father who did this and used this power to control peoples' bodies to keep complete power in the 2nd world war. He also closed off their mind by blocking off thoughts and emotion so they would do nwhat they want to.
Don't keep believing the religious ideas/ or any other supernatural ideas about possession/ or any other ideas concerning your life eg you will be born again etc. could be anything!!

Take care
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maltesers
replied on February 21st, 2009
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ps ...email me if you want!
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bonbaby_mcstar
replied on March 13th, 2009
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Hey, I don't think I am sick, sometimes I will hear a random blip of someones voice in my head before I go to sleep, I find when I sleep on my back I get bad dreams, and my mother is schizophrenic. I don't beleive that I am or my sister. Last night I had a bad dream that my sister was screaming really loud and there was this giant thing trying to bite her feet. So I tried to pull it off but it was just to heavy. It just so happens my sister fell asleep in my moms bed that night and when I woke up I found that my sister hadn't had her feet covered when she was sleeping and she said she had a bad dream too. She also mentioned to me how when she leave her feet uncovered she feels vulnerable, and the same is for me too.
Heather also mentioned how mom always tells her there are things biting her in her bed all the time but there is nothing there no bugs or anything.
It confuses me so much and I am thinking that schizophrenia is more than JUST a mental illness.
Another time I was dreaming that I was going down in the basement and my mom was telling me not too, that day I was walking with my mom to the grocery store and started telling her about my dream how I was in a basement and then she told me then that I don't want to go down there, there is nothing down here, which really confused me because I never told her the part that she was telling me not to go down there. I think there is something beyond just mental illness but I can't figure it out!
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Sirrah2317
replied on April 22nd, 2009
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It is possible it is a medical condition, whether schizophrenia or even hypoglycemia, however, if it is demonic, I encourage you to seek someone who is a Christian and someone who knows about this. Don't try to do it yourself or someone else do it, if you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior. It isn't like the movies. If you are not a Christian and the evil spirits are cast out, they may return and it will be worse as they will return with friends. Find Ministering Deliverance online may be able to point you to someone or be able to help you or go to your local church.
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aphrodite1
replied on April 26th, 2009
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help, schizophrenia sufferer
I have schiziohrenic symptoms and suspect that blood suger is related...
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