Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1617 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
Posted: 02-07-07 21:37pm
Listen to me and listen to me good. I
look around this part of the forum now and
then to find people like you. What you
are experiencing is very likely
not schizophrenia or any
type of mental illness. Your symptoms
are consistent with a metabolic disorder
called hypoglycemia. If you want to know
more find our forum on this site or pm me
and i'll explain what you need to do to
figure out if you do indeed have it.
Please don't treat this as a joke, you
sound like how I used to act a few years
ago and now i'm fine without any type of
medication, it's all treated through
dietary changes. Please contact me.
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Birch
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Posted: 02-07-07 23:33pm
Marayna,
this incident doesn't sound symptomatic of
schizophrenia, torn chakras, or demonic
possession. I believe this is somatic,
and you need to find a doctor. Please,
do some research and go to a physician!
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Stan
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Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1617 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
Posted: 02-08-07 21:09pm
Good god where do you people get this
babble. Do you mean depersonalization,
because that's what you're describing.
I strongly subscribe to qi theory, but all
of this new age crap is totally
round-about philosophy with little value.
These dream people you talk about are a
frequently misunderstood phenomenon that
happens to people called sleep paralysis.
It's led to everything from developing
the vampire myth in eastern europe to
witches and now modern day
misunderstanding of it have led to "alien
abduction" theories. And by the way,
i've worked with schizophrenics and many
of them become highly occupied with
religion and can even recite whole bible
passages by heart, but yet they still have
symptoms so please leave this ridiculous
demon talk for another forum, it has
nothing to do with this illness. It's
either one of three things, an inherited
or drug-induced brain disorder, a disorder
brought on from injury to the brain
(perhaps even through an illness), or,
more commonly, a disease of the brain
relating to faulty metalobic mechanisms in
the body. That's it.
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Zoe321
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Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 3
Posted: 02-09-07 06:36am
Well I think it's a good topic. About 10
years ago I did some dream work and used
an ouji board and a bunch of bad stuff to
talk to a dead person. This led to
hearing voices as I was falling asleep so
that I could talk there. In the end I
didn't sleep, but spent all my time in
that pre-sleep state with the voices and
had a whopper of a psychotic break, and as
soon as I had it I was possessed, I could
feel them in my body. This has led to 10
years of hellish beyond belief demonic
torment, and you bet they are trying to
kill me. They have tried to puncture my
heart even. I think it's a moot point to
discuss whether they are real, for me at
least. If I am just psychotic then why
don't the anti-psychotics do a durned
thing to stop this? I'm fighting for my
life as they try to drive me to suicide by
making the torment so unbearable that I
can't stand to live another second. I am
a christian and god has promised, a few
years ago, to heal me of this, but i'm not
sure when that will happen. And i'm at
the end of my rope. It doesn't matter
whether demons are real or not, because
they are real, if that makes sense.
'saying' they aren't real, doesn't make it
so. And neither does believing they
aren't real.
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Stan
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Posted: 02-09-07 11:05am
Jeez, another one! If there's one way to
contact the dead, i'm sure it's through a
mass produced plastic game by parker
brothers. Anyway, if anti-psychotics
aren't working for you and you're
experiencing symptoms like that, there is
something i'd like you to consider because
I just suggested it to a girl up there and
i'm glad I did because it sounds like she
has it. It's called hypoglycemia. I
have and it was so bad at one point I felt
like I was in the truman show and felt
like cameras were in bagels and on fruit
flies. It was pathetic, but all I had to
do was change my diet, no medicine. If
you're not getting results from that type
of medication, I strongly recommend
looking into hypoglycemia because that may
be all you have. Simple dietary changes
will correct the problem, or if it's due
to something else, at least make it much
more tolerable. If you want to learn
more, pm me and i'll explain it to you,
but if you do give me a complete
list of symptoms you experience, even if
it seems minor. If you have fainting
spells, flu-like symptoms without a
temperature, confusion issues, slurred
speech, blurry vision, weird aches and
pains, headaches and so on and so forth,
you probably just have a glucose problem.
If you want to be healed, your prayers
may have just been answered, my friend.
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Zoe321
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Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 3
Posted: 02-10-07 02:05am
Well I have researched it and i'm eating
to keep my blood sugar on an even keel
today.. I feel like it's making me feel
better but that has happened to me before,
like when I discovered orthomolecular
medicine, the demons like to let me think
i'm cured so I will be all the more heart
broken later. If 10 years of demons and
hell are because of low blood sugar I will
be very surprised. Especially since god
has given me the impression that only he
can heal me.
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Stan
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Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1617 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
Posted: 02-10-07 10:34am
Oh, by the way, the diet you mentioned in
pm is not exactly what you should be
eating, there are a number of things to
avoid. What usually happens at first is
that people either experience one of three
things.
1. They feel better in a few days and
that's it, they only get better.
2. They feel better almost immediatley
and then within 2 weeks crash back down
and slowly get better.
3. They enter a hell that makes them
think they have every disease under the
sun, but within four week or so usually
begin to see progress and within a year
feel really, really good.
We'll figure it out, the good thing is
that a hypoglycemic diet can't hurt you,
so even if you don't have it you will not
have caused your body any harm.
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Birch
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Posted: 02-10-07 10:47am
zoe321
wrote:
well I think it's a good
topic. About 10 years ago I did some
dream work and used an ouji board and a
bunch of bad stuff to talk to a dead
person. This led to hearing voices as I
was falling asleep so that I could talk
there. In the end I didn't sleep, but
spent all my time in that pre-sleep state
with the voices and had a whopper of a
psychotic break, and as soon as I had it I
was possessed, I could feel them in my
body. This has led to 10 years of
hellish beyond belief demonic torment, and
you bet they are trying to kill me.
They have tried to puncture my heart even.
I think it's a moot point to discuss
whether they are real, for me at least.
If I am just psychotic then why don't the
anti-psychotics do a durned thing to stop
this? I'm fighting for my life as they
try to drive me to suicide by making the
torment so unbearable that I can't stand
to live another second. I am a
christian and god has promised, a few
years ago, to heal me of this, but i'm not
sure when that will happen. And i'm at
the end of my rope. It doesn't matter
whether demons are real or not, because
they are real, if that makes sense.
'saying' they aren't real, doesn't make it
so. And neither does believing they
aren't real.
you are describing classic psychotic
symptoms, and the reasons the
anti-psychotics aren't working for you is
that it takes time to figure out what
medication and what dosages you need, and
you have to take them. Do/did you take
your meds as subscribed? So many
psychotics don't.
The demons tried to puncture your heart?
You need professional help before you hurt
yourself or anyone else! Please, please,
please get profssional help!
If god is the only one who can help you,
why hasn't he yet?
Help yourself!
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Zoe321
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Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 3
Posted: 02-10-07 17:28pm
Birch, get professional help? Gee thanks,
I never thought of that pffft
take my meds, another great suggestion
that never occurred to me :p
stan, well let's hope it's option number 1
cause I ain't in the mood for any more
hell on earth and stuff.. I want to thank
you for all your help with this.. It's
been very informative and you never know
aye?
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Birch
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Posted: 02-11-07 01:31am
zoe321
wrote:
birch, get professional
help? Gee thanks, I never thought of
that pffft
take my meds, another great suggestion
that never occurred to me :p
i just asked if you were taking any meds
and implored you to seek professional help
because it doesn't sound like you are
doing those things.
Best of luck to you!
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BigDaddyPrimetime
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Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 49
Posted: 03-04-07 01:33am
Theres some fairly interesting articles
linking schizophrenia with the belief in
the paranormal.
Personally ive experienced a bit drug
induced schizophrenia but it was 100%
linked to my belief in the paranormal. I
was communicating with a voice in my head
who at first I believed to be an occultist
telepathically communicating with me,
second I thought it was a ghost, third I
thought it was a demon. I believed that
all those things existed before I had this
experience.
Its as if your mind will manifest anything
you believe strongly enough. As for why
the experienced become so negative I think
that has alot to do with fear. I was
afraid of having to deal with a demon
inside me so my mind manifested a voice in
my head which appeared to be a demon.
Also it seems to play on any possible
threats your mind can percieve. One time I
was talking to the voice and it was
telling me things like "pack your bags and
leave, your dead already" or "youve got 5
minutes to get out of the house then were
coming in to kill you" whenever id walk by
a window it would say "There you are I can
see you now" trying to get me to believe
he was on the street outside but my mind
was going so fast I didnt even think about
what it was saying to me until a good
while after. Crazily enough the voice said
"theres cars waiting outside for you we
have one guy waiting on the street corner"
and when I looked out the window I
actually saw a car parked in the middle of
the intersection at the street corner like
it said and one car with the lights on
right in front of my apartment building.
Did I hallucinate that? Its a busy street
and not that uncommon to look out and see
a person parking or pulling out in the
parking space in front of my building but
it was 3 in the morning so that lowers the
odds from 1 in 10 to about 10 in 50.
Anyway what I was getting at is this voice
told me "Marco" (a friend of my dads who
breaks into peoples house) was coming to
break into my house. The voice kept saying
"He will take your life" and caca like
that. It manifested like that because I
had considered the possibility of him
breaking in before because my dad was dumb
enough to point out where I lived one day.
I knew the whole time hed never break into
my place but there was still the
possibility playing out in the back of my
head. This paranoia got to the point where
I actually felt the building shake. I was
thinking extremely illogically and
remembered the guy talking about how he
gets the doors open. He waits for cars to
drive by then forces the door with his
foot and the house shakes a little bit.
That might make sense for a house but not
even the incredible hulk could shake a 3
story apartment building with his foot. It
was only the next morning that I realized
that was completely impossible and
illogical and realized i had to have
hallucinated the room shaking. I actually
saw the change on the table rattling.
Then again this was psychosis caused by
sleep deprivation so in my case it was
most likely my mind half sleeping and
dreaming but the methamphetamine keeping
me awake. Dreaming while awake.
I wonder if one realized what theyre
hearing or seeing is completely imaginary
will it stop happening. In my case I
always consider the possibility that it
might be real and I think that maybe these
entities are there as guards to keep
people blind of the paranormal and that if
I convince myself its not real out of fear
I will have lost my ESP. Thats what stops
me from thinking its not real so the
voices stick around in full force. I tried
an alternative approach by thinking or
rather knownig that I run the show as far
as my body and my life is concerned and
that only I choose what I do with my life
and that these voices can medical question
with my head all they like but theyre
never gonna influence my course of life or
the way i think.
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sriiing
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Re: Re, Possession Posted: 12-24-07 19:56pm
Barbra
wrote:
Hello,
yes!! All scizophrenia is possession.
Probably around 70% of people are
influenced by other entities; they just
aren't aware of it, because nothing is
taught about other worlds.
Of the possessing entities; some are
demons; most are discarnate souls, hanging
around after death, trying to find an
outlet on earth.
I'm clairvoyant, and in every case i've
known of so-called scizophrenia, voices,
etc, the soul was being attacked by
another being trying to gain possession of
the personality and physical body.
It might interest you to know that
'normal' people are often used, too;
they're just not so aware of it.
The "schizophrenic" is always a very
sensitive, open, usually kind and
perceptive person.
This is why they are easy targets for
deceased beings, since they're pretty
loose and 'open'.
However, for another being to get in, and
affect you, there has to be something like
it inside you. Otherwise it cannot get
access, or will be quickly ejected.
So, although you cannot remove your
sensitivity, you can work on yourself to
remove whatever 'hook' the being is using.
Remember, it just cannot carry on staying
with you, unless you resonate with its'
energy in some way. You don't need to be
perfect, just try very hard to focus on
the good. Eg, if you feel angry, think
kind thoughts. If greed or envy is your
weak spot, try to develop the opposite
qualities. The worst thing is cruelty or
hatred. If there are any 'dark' feelings,
you'll attract a corresponding being.
This may sound strange, but after 40
years' experience, I know it's true, and
hope thinking on this helps someone.
Schizophrenia is just a label which
bemused doctors stick on people when they
have no idea of the truth, as they can't
see into the spiritual & astral
worlds.
Useful reading:-
rudolf steiner
blavatsky
alice bailey.
B
This guy is one of few that actually knows
what he is talking about.
The reality is that we are pure
consciousness. The ego, or sense of self,
self-definition is a conglomeration of
thought forms, ideas and beliefs which
form the personality through which we
perceive reality.
Scizophrenia like any other "dis-ease" is
a label, which ultimately real
psychologists have no understanding of.
The reality is that spectrum of reality is
much greater than most perceive.
We are all possessed to one degree or
another, to the degree we are fully
enlightened and doing divine Will in each
and every moment.
In my case anger, fear, judgement and so
forth opened the gateway to lower astral
forces which have virtually taken over and
destroyed much of my subtle physical,
emotional/astral bodies. My mind however
can still think normally, its just the
remaining intellect/analytical mind.
If anyone else on here understands what
the above gentleman does, and knows of
anyway, if at all possible to heal and
clear negativity even after major damage
has been done, and the negative emotions
have slipped so far into the sub-concious
that dealing with them is difficult,
please inform.
Namaste..
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Philo
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Posted: 12-24-07 22:05pm
All of these "entities" are psychic
realities enclosed within the mind and
part of it. No demon has outside,
independent existence.
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irChris777
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Posted: 12-25-07 00:27am
stan what is hilarious to me is that
sooooooooooooooo many people start to hear
voices the minute that they start to
tamper with the occult and you STILL THINK
that it is some "coincidence." it took me
a long time to believe it too stan cuz i
wanted to keep sinnin. wow the links
people go through to deny God is real- you
and me both. sorta reminds me of how
YAHWEH parted the red sea for the
Israelites and a short while later they
were bowin down to a golden calf. its a
testament to the fact that only the power
of God can save someone and that logic
wont convince them theyll choose evil even
though the truth is plain as day.
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Georgia59
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UGH. I wrote a VERY long response but it
got deleted.
The Reptilians ARE real..they are other
dimensional beings. The fact that you are
hearing them means you have a VERY special
purpose. They are other dimensional beings
who have control over our world, the third
dimension. They are trying to keep people
from advancing spirutually and from
keeping people stuck in the status
quo...the Reptialians are currently in
control of the planet, but that is
changing, as humans are ascending into a
higher vibration, in which the whole plant
will function on a higher dimension, and
not the THIRD anymore. The planet is in a
huge shift and this is why the weather is
changing, disasters are increasing, etc. I
think the Bible called it Armagedon. It is
not the END of the world totally..just the
end of the world AS WE KNOW IT.
You can read several New Age books on this
topic and their role written by Barbara
Marciniak and Barbara Handclow pertaining
to the Pleaidians. The Pleidian Agenda
will explain to you what they are and what
role they play on our planet.
Please embrace this gift you are
experiencing, and do not run away from it
or medicate it away. Instead, find an
ADVANCED Alternative energy healer,
channeler, or medium to explain to you WHY
you are hearing them and how to handle it
and what the purpose is and why they have
chosen you to communicate with and WHAT
you are supossed to do. THIS IS A BIG
THING and shows you have a BIG purpose.
You are NOT crazy, and a DOCTOR will have
NO clue about this. However, any spiritual
person WILL. I am referring to New Age
type people and to those of HIGHER states
of conscionsness...psychics, clairvoyants,
etc.
I wish you well. You are indeed blessed,
though you cannot see it! Try to tell them
that you know the truth, you know who they
are, they will not harm you, and they have
no control over you...this is what you
need to tell them back when they talk to
you....you talk to them right back and
tell them they will NEVER win!
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 03-09-08 21:19pm
I also believe in "chakra's. Each part of
your boddy from head to feet have a
defferent radient color. Also "chie". That
is why yoga is so very important in ones
life. I reflects all parts of your mind
and controls your charkra's. You meditate
and work from you head down to your feet
feeling all those parts one by one go
beyond reality in a kinda 5th sense. That
sense is what relaxation is all about. I
am a very spiritual lady and always have
been. At one time I did believe in demons.
If you really believe this is so, you can
also buy some sage with lavendar and light
it and go through every room in your home.
Spriritually this is suppose to clean you
home of any evil if there is any. Also,
there is power in white candles burning. I
am sure you know that is stands for
protection from evil. There is also a good
thing by putting rock salt on every window
sill in your home.
I wish you luck and I have been there and
done that.
It's good to know that this never happens,
and how safe we all are.
It's just a biological malfunction of some
sort.
Shoot, evil probably doesn't even exist
for all we know.
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Palaton
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Demon Oppression - It's REAL but science can't accept it. Posted: 03-21-08 06:09am
I am a 36 y/o guy who had a very
successful banking career before a chronic
illness started causing health problems. I
began to have sleep attacks known as
Narcolepsy. Luckily, I have never had
faith in doctors or psychologists, because
let's face it, all they want to do is
medicate you. For this reason I found a
Psychiatrist in the UK who also
specialized in clinical hypnotherapy.
After five sessions I experienced a
powerful vision, which I later understood
to be a spiritual message describing my
illness.
I was so shocked by what I had seen, that
I didn't have the ability to process the
experience. About 6 months later I was
broken, jobless and on the downward
spiral. I was in my room having finished a
call to my brother in the US. I placed my
hands up to my face and said, "Oh God,
what am I going to do with my life now".
Within a second I heard over my right
shoulder, a very firm, authoritative voice
say to me, "Matthew, you should pray".
So that's what I did, I opened my heart
and begged God for help. I was in tears,
crying like a baby. I remember asking God
for the truth of my illness. After praying
each day for about 3 days, I began having
terrifying dreams. From that day on my
prayers ground to a halt and I started
experiencing what I can only describe as a
supernatural onslaught. Confusing dreams,
nightmares and visions plagued me for
months. Vibrations in my stomach, voices
threatening to take me to hell.
It was an awful experience. A further 6
months later I knew that the root cause of
my suffering was spiritual, although my
conscious mind was in denial.
Another year later and I discovered a book
called "Remarkable Healings" by
psychiatrist turned hypnotherapist,
Shakuntala Modi. It contains a collection
of the interviews she has with her
hypnotised clients. Quite by accident she
discovers DEMONS living inside these
people and then explains the process of
setting their souls free. She does not
record her own beliefs, but rather what
her patients relate to her is the root of
their suffering. It took me another year
to accept and believe that DEMONS are
indeed real and that I was suffering from
them. In fact this is a global phenomenon
and it is directly linked to the Godless
way we are living. DEMONS seek to kill the
people they afflict, by leading them into
spiritually harmful activities They do
this by speaking in the minds of their
victims until very many of them commit
suicide to end the torment. This woman has
cured people which were considered to be
basket cases by the medical fraternity.
This is by far THE BEST book on the
subject written by an intelligent person
for truth-seekers.
The only way to rid yourself of demons, is
slow and painful. It is called the way of
deliverance. You will have to commit to
God and also to your own soul by
incorporating healing prayer and NT
reading into your life each day. THERE IS
NO WAY AROUND IT. In short, you will have
to transform your lifestyle. No more
drugs, tobacco, alcohol, porn or sexual
promiscuity.
If you seek healing and transformation in
your life and you want to link up with
someone who has practical experience and
sound advice you can test, then contact me
and I will assist you on the road to
recovery.
There is a cure and a way out of
suffering, if you are open-minded enough
to accept it and apply it to your life.
Don't be another vicitm
"Wide is the road leading to suffering and
death and many travel on it... narrow is
the road leading to life and very few find
it."
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Posted: 03-21-08 08:08am
woops
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http://ehealthforum.com/heal
th/topic128483.html
It's good to know that this never happens,
and how safe we all are.
It's just a biological malfunction of some
sort.
Shoot, evil probably doesn't even exist
for all we know.
*clears
throat* umm excuse me.
The war in Iraq
The day of doom "9/11"
Kids shooting up schools
Family killing family
I have never seen such evil in my whole
lifetime and I am now 60 years old. You
have a right to your own opinion and the
first ammendment. I believe evil is at the
highest it has ever been.
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