Marayna,

this incident doesn't sound symptomatic of schizophrenia, torn chakras, or demonic possession. I believe this is somatic, and you need to find a doctor. Please, do some research and go to a physician!

Good god where do you people get this babble. Do you mean depersonalization, because that's what you're describing. I strongly subscribe to qi theory, but all of this new age crap is totally round-about philosophy with little value. These dream people you talk about are a frequently misunderstood phenomenon that happens to people called sleep paralysis. It's led to everything from developing the vampire myth in eastern europe to witches and now modern day misunderstanding of it have led to "alien abduction" theories. And by the way, i've worked with schizophrenics and many of them become highly occupied with religion and can even recite whole bible passages by heart, but yet they still have symptoms so please leave this ridiculous demon talk for another forum, it has nothing to do with this illness. It's either one of three things, an inherited or drug-induced brain disorder, a disorder brought on from injury to the brain (perhaps even through an illness), or, more commonly, a disease of the brain relating to faulty metalobic mechanisms in the body. That's it.

Well I think it's a good topic. About 10 years ago I did some dream work and used an ouji board and a bunch of bad stuff to talk to a dead person. This led to hearing voices as I was falling asleep so that I could talk there. In the end I didn't sleep, but spent all my time in that pre-sleep state with the voices and had a whopper of a psychotic break, and as soon as I had it I was possessed, I could feel them in my body. This has led to 10 years of hellish beyond belief demonic torment, and you bet they are trying to kill me. They have tried to puncture my heart even. I think it's a moot point to discuss whether they are real, for me at least. If I am just psychotic then why don't the anti-psychotics do a durned thing to stop this? I'm fighting for my life as they try to drive me to suicide by making the torment so unbearable that I can't stand to live another second. I am a christian and god has promised, a few years ago, to heal me of this, but i'm not sure when that will happen. And i'm at the end of my rope. It doesn't matter whether demons are real or not, because they are real, if that makes sense. 'saying' they aren't real, doesn't make it so. And neither does believing they aren't real.

Jeez, another one! If there's one way to contact the dead, i'm sure it's through a mass produced plastic game by parker brothers. Anyway, if anti-psychotics aren't working for you and you're experiencing symptoms like that, there is something i'd like you to consider because I just suggested it to a girl up there and i'm glad I did because it sounds like she has it. It's called hypoglycemia. I have and it was so bad at one point I felt like I was in the truman show and felt like cameras were in bagels and on fruit flies. It was pathetic, but all I had to do was change my diet, no medicine. If you're not getting results from that type of medication, I strongly recommend looking into hypoglycemia because that may be all you have. Simple dietary changes will correct the problem, or if it's due to something else, at least make it much more tolerable. If you want to learn more, pm me and i'll explain it to you, but if you do give me a complete list of symptoms you experience, even if it seems minor. If you have fainting spells, flu-like symptoms without a temperature, confusion issues, slurred speech, blurry vision, weird aches and pains, headaches and so on and so forth, you probably just have a glucose problem. If you want to be healed, your prayers may have just been answered, my friend.

Well I have researched it and i'm eating to keep my blood sugar on an even keel today.. I feel like it's making me feel better but that has happened to me before, like when I discovered orthomolecular medicine, the demons like to let me think i'm cured so I will be all the more heart broken later. If 10 years of demons and hell are because of low blood sugar I will be very surprised. Especially since god has given me the impression that only he can heal me.

Oh, by the way, the diet you mentioned in pm is not exactly what you should be eating, there are a number of things to avoid. What usually happens at first is that people either experience one of three things.

1. They feel better in a few days and that's it, they only get better.

2. They feel better almost immediatley and then within 2 weeks crash back down and slowly get better.

3. They enter a hell that makes them think they have every disease under the sun, but within four week or so usually begin to see progress and within a year feel really, really good.

We'll figure it out, the good thing is that a hypoglycemic diet can't hurt you, so even if you don't have it you will not have caused your body any harm.

you are describing classic psychotic symptoms, and the reasons the anti-psychotics aren't working for you is that it takes time to figure out what medication and what dosages you need, and you have to take them. Do/did you take your meds as subscribed? So many psychotics don't.

The demons tried to puncture your heart? You need professional help before you hurt yourself or anyone else! Please, please, please get profssional help!

If god is the only one who can help you, why hasn't he yet?

Help yourself!

Birch, get professional help? Gee thanks, I never thought of that pffft
take my meds, another great suggestion that never occurred to me :p

stan, well let's hope it's option number 1 cause I ain't in the mood for any more hell on earth and stuff.. I want to thank you for all your help with this.. It's been very informative and you never know aye?

i just asked if you were taking any meds and implored you to seek professional help because it doesn't sound like you are doing those things.

Best of luck to you!

Theres some fairly interesting articles linking schizophrenia with the belief in the paranormal.

http://members.aol.com/garypos/Zeiler.html

Personally ive experienced a bit drug induced schizophrenia but it was 100% linked to my belief in the paranormal. I was communicating with a voice in my head who at first I believed to be an occultist telepathically communicating with me, second I thought it was a ghost, third I thought it was a demon. I believed that all those things existed before I had this experience.

Its as if your mind will manifest anything you believe strongly enough. As for why the experienced become so negative I think that has alot to do with fear. I was afraid of having to deal with a demon inside me so my mind manifested a voice in my head which appeared to be a demon.

Also it seems to play on any possible threats your mind can percieve. One time I was talking to the voice and it was telling me things like "pack your bags and leave, your dead already" or "youve got 5 minutes to get out of the house then were coming in to kill you" whenever id walk by a window it would say "There you are I can see you now" trying to get me to believe he was on the street outside but my mind was going so fast I didnt even think about what it was saying to me until a good while after. Crazily enough the voice said "theres cars waiting outside for you we have one guy waiting on the street corner" and when I looked out the window I actually saw a car parked in the middle of the intersection at the street corner like it said and one car with the lights on right in front of my apartment building. Did I hallucinate that? Its a busy street and not that uncommon to look out and see a person parking or pulling out in the parking space in front of my building but it was 3 in the morning so that lowers the odds from 1 in 10 to about 10 in 50.

Anyway what I was getting at is this voice told me "Marco" (a friend of my dads who breaks into peoples house) was coming to break into my house. The voice kept saying "He will take your life" and caca like that. It manifested like that because I had considered the possibility of him breaking in before because my dad was dumb enough to point out where I lived one day. I knew the whole time hed never break into my place but there was still the possibility playing out in the back of my head. This paranoia got to the point where I actually felt the building shake. I was thinking extremely illogically and remembered the guy talking about how he gets the doors open. He waits for cars to drive by then forces the door with his foot and the house shakes a little bit. That might make sense for a house but not even the incredible hulk could shake a 3 story apartment building with his foot. It was only the next morning that I realized that was completely impossible and illogical and realized i had to have hallucinated the room shaking. I actually saw the change on the table rattling.

Then again this was psychosis caused by sleep deprivation so in my case it was most likely my mind half sleeping and dreaming but the methamphetamine keeping me awake. Dreaming while awake.

I wonder if one realized what theyre hearing or seeing is completely imaginary will it stop happening. In my case I always consider the possibility that it might be real and I think that maybe these entities are there as guards to keep people blind of the paranormal and that if I convince myself its not real out of fear I will have lost my ESP. Thats what stops me from thinking its not real so the voices stick around in full force. I tried an alternative approach by thinking or rather knownig that I run the show as far as my body and my life is concerned and that only I choose what I do with my life and that these voices can medical question with my head all they like but theyre never gonna influence my course of life or the way i think.

This guy is one of few that actually knows what he is talking about.

The reality is that we are pure consciousness. The ego, or sense of self, self-definition is a conglomeration of thought forms, ideas and beliefs which form the personality through which we perceive reality.

Scizophrenia like any other "dis-ease" is a label, which ultimately real psychologists have no understanding of.

The reality is that spectrum of reality is much greater than most perceive.

We are all possessed to one degree or another, to the degree we are fully enlightened and doing divine Will in each and every moment.

In my case anger, fear, judgement and so forth opened the gateway to lower astral forces which have virtually taken over and destroyed much of my subtle physical, emotional/astral bodies. My mind however can still think normally, its just the remaining intellect/analytical mind.

If anyone else on here understands what the above gentleman does, and knows of anyway, if at all possible to heal and clear negativity even after major damage has been done, and the negative emotions have slipped so far into the sub-concious that dealing with them is difficult, please inform.

Namaste..

All of these "entities" are psychic realities enclosed within the mind and part of it. No demon has outside, independent existence.

stan what is hilarious to me is that sooooooooooooooo many people start to hear voices the minute that they start to tamper with the occult and you STILL THINK that it is some "coincidence." it took me a long time to believe it too stan cuz i wanted to keep sinnin. wow the links people go through to deny God is real- you and me both. sorta reminds me of how YAHWEH parted the red sea for the Israelites and a short while later they were bowin down to a golden calf. its a testament to the fact that only the power of God can save someone and that logic wont convince them theyll choose evil even though the truth is plain as day.

Please read if you haven't already:
http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic119416 .html

UGH. I wrote a VERY long response but it got deleted.

The Reptilians ARE real..they are other dimensional beings. The fact that you are hearing them means you have a VERY special purpose. They are other dimensional beings who have control over our world, the third dimension. They are trying to keep people from advancing spirutually and from keeping people stuck in the status quo...the Reptialians are currently in control of the planet, but that is changing, as humans are ascending into a higher vibration, in which the whole plant will function on a higher dimension, and not the THIRD anymore. The planet is in a huge shift and this is why the weather is changing, disasters are increasing, etc. I think the Bible called it Armagedon. It is not the END of the world totally..just the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT.

You can read several New Age books on this topic and their role written by Barbara Marciniak and Barbara Handclow pertaining to the Pleaidians. The Pleidian Agenda will explain to you what they are and what role they play on our planet.

Please embrace this gift you are experiencing, and do not run away from it or medicate it away. Instead, find an ADVANCED Alternative energy healer, channeler, or medium to explain to you WHY you are hearing them and how to handle it and what the purpose is and why they have chosen you to communicate with and WHAT you are supossed to do. THIS IS A BIG THING and shows you have a BIG purpose.

You are NOT crazy, and a DOCTOR will have NO clue about this. However, any spiritual person WILL. I am referring to New Age type people and to those of HIGHER states of conscionsness...psychics, clairvoyants, etc.

I wish you well. You are indeed blessed, though you cannot see it! Try to tell them that you know the truth, you know who they are, they will not harm you, and they have no control over you...this is what you need to tell them back when they talk to you....you talk to them right back and tell them they will NEVER win!

I also believe in "chakra's. Each part of your boddy from head to feet have a defferent radient color. Also "chie". That is why yoga is so very important in ones life. I reflects all parts of your mind and controls your charkra's. You meditate and work from you head down to your feet feeling all those parts one by one go beyond reality in a kinda 5th sense. That sense is what relaxation is all about. I am a very spiritual lady and always have been. At one time I did believe in demons. If you really believe this is so, you can also buy some sage with lavendar and light it and go through every room in your home. Spriritually this is suppose to clean you home of any evil if there is any. Also, there is power in white candles burning. I am sure you know that is stands for protection from evil. There is also a good thing by putting rock salt on every window sill in your home.

I wish you luck and I have been there and done that.

Carrie

http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic128483 .html

It's good to know that this never happens, and how safe we all are.
It's just a biological malfunction of some sort.
Shoot, evil probably doesn't even exist for all we know.

I am a 36 y/o guy who had a very successful banking career before a chronic illness started causing health problems. I began to have sleep attacks known as Narcolepsy. Luckily, I have never had faith in doctors or psychologists, because let's face it, all they want to do is medicate you. For this reason I found a Psychiatrist in the UK who also specialized in clinical hypnotherapy. After five sessions I experienced a powerful vision, which I later understood to be a spiritual message describing my illness.

I was so shocked by what I had seen, that I didn't have the ability to process the experience. About 6 months later I was broken, jobless and on the downward spiral. I was in my room having finished a call to my brother in the US. I placed my hands up to my face and said, "Oh God, what am I going to do with my life now". Within a second I heard over my right shoulder, a very firm, authoritative voice say to me, "Matthew, you should pray".

So that's what I did, I opened my heart and begged God for help. I was in tears, crying like a baby. I remember asking God for the truth of my illness. After praying each day for about 3 days, I began having terrifying dreams. From that day on my prayers ground to a halt and I started experiencing what I can only describe as a supernatural onslaught. Confusing dreams, nightmares and visions plagued me for months. Vibrations in my stomach, voices threatening to take me to hell.
It was an awful experience. A further 6 months later I knew that the root cause of my suffering was spiritual, although my conscious mind was in denial.

Another year later and I discovered a book called "Remarkable Healings" by psychiatrist turned hypnotherapist, Shakuntala Modi. It contains a collection of the interviews she has with her hypnotised clients. Quite by accident she discovers DEMONS living inside these people and then explains the process of setting their souls free. She does not record her own beliefs, but rather what her patients relate to her is the root of their suffering. It took me another year to accept and believe that DEMONS are indeed real and that I was suffering from them. In fact this is a global phenomenon and it is directly linked to the Godless way we are living. DEMONS seek to kill the people they afflict, by leading them into spiritually harmful activities They do this by speaking in the minds of their victims until very many of them commit suicide to end the torment. This woman has cured people which were considered to be basket cases by the medical fraternity. This is by far THE BEST book on the subject written by an intelligent person for truth-seekers.

The only way to rid yourself of demons, is slow and painful. It is called the way of deliverance. You will have to commit to God and also to your own soul by incorporating healing prayer and NT reading into your life each day. THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT. In short, you will have to transform your lifestyle. No more drugs, tobacco, alcohol, porn or sexual promiscuity.

If you seek healing and transformation in your life and you want to link up with someone who has practical experience and sound advice you can test, then contact me and I will assist you on the road to recovery.

There is a cure and a way out of suffering, if you are open-minded enough to accept it and apply it to your life. Don't be another vicitm

"Wide is the road leading to suffering and death and many travel on it... narrow is the road leading to life and very few find it."

*clears throat* umm excuse me.

The war in Iraq
The day of doom "9/11"
Kids shooting up schools
Family killing family

I have never seen such evil in my whole lifetime and I am now 60 years old. You have a right to your own opinion and the first ammendment. I believe evil is at the highest it has ever been.

If there is indeed such a thing as 'evil' then it is man-made, and usually it is fostered by capitalism.