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It is not the case that a medical disease is being co-opted by demonic possession. Schizophrenia was treated with exorcism and it's vitims were subjected to inquisitional torture when Invictus Ritae didn't cure them of the demons within them. The Cathlolic church acknowledged that Schizophrenia is a legitimate mental disorder, they haven't made a public statement to the contrary. The medical study of schizophrenia has identified it's cause, not demons.

Just because you have no proof of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist but it does mean that there is no logical reason to accept that it exists. The US government studied telepathy. The lost interest in it in the late 70s. Every dozen years or so there's legitimate study into Telepathy/esp but nothing conclusive is found.

If this is demonic, there are millions of us, true we are only about 1 percent of the population, but a million is a fairly big number of possessed people wouldn't you say?

Man I really hate not knowing don't you?
This is awful.

The problem at hand, is that truth is not welcome. For instance, if you have a grade six education, that is about all you need to at least reach Albert Einstein's achievements. The only catch is that to do so you have to know how to set your mind to be able to look toward truths rather than go with the flow of looking in the direction of global beliefs and disbeliefs.

One is only dependent upon beliefs and disbeliefs if you happen to be located at a distance from the actual truth, thus be located in a zone of less than truth.

Across the globe, people are happy with their beliefs and disbeliefs, and thus insist upon remaining at a distance from the actually truth, by sticking to being at a distance from the truth, via sticking to their beliefs and disbeliefs like glue. This is why there are still separate fields of interest such as science and religion. Neither of these fields are complete, which is exactly why there are still two separate fields of interest.

With this being the case, any presentation of the complete truth concerning "Schizophrenia", is immediately 100% rejected, since incompleteness is still all that is being accepted at this time.

Wolf, I think you might have misunderstood my comments. I certainly know that schizophrenia is a disease.
I don't condone exorcism as a treatment option, that would be reckless and irresponsible. I am also aware that over the history of man, big mistakes have been made- especially with an illness that affects the behavior or the afflicted.

I have stated my son is taking his meds, as he must. If I thought all he had was spirit possession or oppression I would think prayer is enough....but because we don't know...we do what the psychiatrist advises.

I am sorry you seem to feel upset about the existence of those things we can't identify with our 5 senses- such as telepathy. Just because "legitimate" studies have been attempted and failed to prove extra sensory perception/mental telepathy it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It only means they haven't figured out a way to conduct the study. There are many things scientists and doctors now acknowledge are evident, even though they cannot explain it, for example, how prayer helps. If I listened to you I'd believe that no amount of prayer will help someone who has an affliction. Doctors acknowledge prayer does help and studies have demonstrated this. And it's not all "power of suggestion" because it even helps people who have no faith- or are unaware they're being prayed for.

Interesting post lifestart.

You do realize that exorcism is b s don't you.

You can't just wave a cross around and throw some water around the room and say a hopeful prayer to get rid of these things.

And by the way, they have done studies and just about proven some telepathic, or telekinetic things, can't remember which.

Something is seriously wrong with exorcism, tricks are being played I believe. If somebody shows up and throws some water around the room, or somebody forces these things to leave you alone, it's obviously b s. They do as they please. I wonder how it works exactly.

Im just saying it's pretty obvious, men don't have power over these things.

Lifestart
Has your doctor ever prescribed prayer? If so I'm genuinely sorry for you. In medicine prayer is used for grief management not care of illness or injury. If your doctor suggest you can pray for someone in their care it means they don't hold good odds for recovery.

The world is full of things we don't understand that work or fail to work in what appears to be a consistent manner. However depending on things you don't understand, in any way, is irrational.

Wolf: No, my doctor has not / would not prescribe prayer. You have misconstrued what I said. I have never professed to depend on things..I don't understand. Clearly you and I have little to talk about....sorry.

It even says in the bible that so many to pretend to believe in, "god's will be done", not our will.

We can't just ask him for whatever we want and get it.

Thats not how prayer in the bible works.

People can hardly even define prayer as it pertains to the bible.

And now they are saying that some perfect and loving god allows demons to attack and destroy you.

Thats the opposite of what a perfect and loving god does.

A perfect and loving god would just make it okay from the beginning if he could, but let's not rule out that he is actually a loving more on that can't make good things.

Just think about it, if you have a good and loving god, he would not have made this place and us for any reason.

If there are good beings out there, they didn't make us, and they cannot help us, surely cannot get rid of demons or the devil or anything really.

I suppose that the more we learn about life, which is frowned upon usually, we will know what kind've being or beings created us or the universe, and believe me, they are not good.

How did they get people to believe that a good and loving guy made this place, if anything some horned guy with a forked tounge and such things made this.

In answer to your question, I believe in possession by spirits or energies, demons if you will. I also believe invoking Jesus' name can weaken their hold on the victim- and perhaps drive them out with one caveat: The victim has to want to be delivered. One can't just assert her authority over another human. We are given the gift of choice from God and as such we must act on it for ourselves. I have found in my son's case that the less I said about God the happier he was. The demons that were inside him hated the name of Christ. When the Priest prayed for him one of them kicked the crucifix and said, "Take it off - it's making me dirty!" I know I'm going to get a barrage of comments that I'm nuts if I continue to affirm belief in something I can't see but there it is. My son is doing 100% better now - compliant on his meds - his sense of humor restored, his life restored, even his features are his again. The ugliness that resided inside him has left. I hope for good.

woops and lifestart....

First of all God created good and evil. The concept of a good loving God who will not test us only exists in the new testament (man made) but thats a different story. The old testament and the Quran (last testament) says otherwise, so we have terrible afflictions in various ways, sometimes through other people, sometimes through possession of jinns, which btw are not neccassarily demons, some are good some are bad. Some are christian, muslims, hindus, satan worshippers etc. They speak various languages and dialects hence some biploar people will speak foreign languages they have never spoken before!.