Ouch! That sounds pretty painful!

As far as using tylenol 3, I would avoid it in pregnancy especially. If you go to a doctor they will tell you otherwise, because tylenol seems to have spent a lot of money with the ama.

However, tylenol is one of the most dangerous pain relievers there is, especially in pregnancy, because it powerfully taxes the liver. Your liver is strenously worked during pregnancy, since it's job is to "cleanse" the blood of any toxins/wastes. There are many cases of people dying or suffering permanent liver damage from taking as little as a double dose of tylenol.

For most women who experience what used to be called "toxemia" in later pregnancy, the issue is the liver being overworked.

If you need pain relievers, and they must be pharmaceutical, I would strongly suggest ibuprofen rather than tylenol.

Also, if you live anywhere where you can get access to a natural health food store or you can contact a bee keeper, one of the best things i've ever used for a broken or abcessed tooth is bee propyllis. It is a waxy, antibiotic and antiviral substance. Beehives are the most clean environments practically on earth! You can make a small ball out of propyllis and push it into a hole in your tooth that is hurting, and the pain and swelling will dissipate.

Blessings,
fiora

Wow thanks flora for all the info. The bee propyllis sounds facinating! Do you know if that has an adverse effects on people w/ bee allergies? It sounds like a great alternative!

From what I understand, an allergic response to a bee sting is quite different from a food allergy, so I doubt that it would be a problem. If there were a person allergic to honey, that would be a concern for any internal use of other bee products, but otherwise, I wouldn't think so.

However, a bee allergy can be pretty serious, so you might want to check it out more thoroughly if you are allergic to bee stings.

Hope your tooth gets better soon.
Fiora

You might want to check with the dr or pharmacist and let them know that you are pregnant but I would say that tylenol 3 was out(just my opinion).

Aleve is the most dangerous thing anyone could take-pregnant or not. My mom is a nurse and she tells me about aleve and how it is linked to so many cases of heartattack and sudden unexplained deaths. Ibprofen is not safe for pregnancy as it can cause bleeding in the fetus. The safest is plain tylenol-as long as you keep the dose under 500mg.

Also, the issue with the liver being overworked is overexaggerated. This only applies to people who would be using excessive amounts of tylenol for an extended period of time. Basic tylenol is the safest pain reliever for pregnant women.
Tylenol 3 prob not bc it has codeine. But you dont necessarily need something that strong.

Hi, I can't offer any advice in regards to how any pain relievers would affect the pregnancy, but I have been in the exact situation where I chipped a tooth and the nerve was exposed and there was constant throbbing pain that was unbearable! It would get worse at night to the point where I couldn't sleep. The only solution was a root canal. Pain relievers such as ibuprofen only provides temp relief. You really need to get this done because bacteria will infect the nerve and before you know your nerve would be infected and that won't do any good obviously. I even took vicodin which I overdosed and passed out in a restaurant only because I wanted to pull my tooth out because I was in such pain. :(

You can take t3 and be just fine. After years of study and more clinical trials, many of todays ob's are prescribing tylenol 3 and even vicodan to their patients.

As long as you take it exactly to the letter of the instructions, you will be just fine. My wife had to have t3 for headaches durring pregnancy and then darvon for post preggers pain. Neither will hurt the baby if taken properly.

Obviously check with your ob and ask for a prescription but they should have no problems giving it to you.

Remember, the more you suffer while pregnant the more the baby suffers, they are totally tied to your emotional and physical self and they are affected just like you. You should be making sure that you are not in pain and that the world is treating you like a queen because you are going through the toughest part of your life.

totally agree----advil or any ibuprophen for that matter can cause bleeding in the mother also. My gramma almost died from bleed--after taking advil. I do not agree if doc says take ibuprophen while pregnant--i dont believe they really know about it's affect on a fetus yet. I would not trust it. I would not give it to my child either. It is tylenol all the way or nothing. This is just my opinion--

tylenol3 is acetametaphine with codeine in it. I was prescribed codeine one time while we were trying to prevent a miscarraige. And doc explained to me it would not harm the baby---but I would seek you doc approval before taking it.

i agree tylenol is safe I took it with all 3 of my pregnacies and with this one asprain is not safe tylenol is safe if so worried ask your doc I took t3 with my last pg

It always depends on the person to as we are all different!
Good luck

I will stick by what I said before.

Tylenol (acetominophen) is taxing to the liver. Pregnancy is also taxing to the liver-it simply is part of the process. Doesn't mean a pregnant woman with a normal, healthy pregnancy, well nourished and feeling good is in any danger of her liver being damaged. Just means that the process of pregnancy-the normal natural functions that the body is actually doing while growing another body within itself-does make for an extra work load on the liver.

The old term, "toxemia", is what is now called "pre-eclampsia". There are very few obstetricians who have the nutritional training to understand the actual process that is going on which can lead to the high blood pressure and dangerous liver overwork of this late pregnancy syndrome. What midwives the world over (and in many other westernized, modern countries, it is the midwives who are the primary care providers for pregnancy-only calling on the surgical specialists-the obstetricians-to work under their referral in a situation that goes beyond normal) know well is that, especially in late pregnancy but also throughout the pregnancy, nutrition to support the liver function is one of the most important things one can do to ensure a healthy pregnancy and birth. Midwives statistics, by the way, on birth outcomes and overall health for both mother and baby, are far better than the american westernized medical version of care.

Ibuprofen being a "blood thinner" is not an issue unless you are about to actually give birth. I'm not even certain that it is, frankly, but unless you have some type of clotting disorder (as many elders do-for that person who made the comment about their grandparent) a normal amount of ibuprofen for a short term pain issue such as a hurt tooth is perfectly safe. The blood volume of a pregnant woman goes way up anyway, to support the extra tissue being built both by her baby and by her uterine muscles in readiness for birth. It is this added blood volume, by the way, that requires more work of the liver.

Just because an obstetrician would tell you to use tylenol does not make it safe or appropriate. If you ask them about liver effects, the only american doctors who will tell you anything are the ones who deal regularly with people who have long term liver diseases, and if they know what they are talking about nutritionally-some do, some don't-they will say the same thing i've said.

Blessings,
fiora

if ob's are uncapable of directing a women through the medical needs of pregnancy, than who in the world is qualified?

and i'm sure that has .N.O.T.H.I.N.G at all to do with the fact that, as soon as something goes wrong with a delivery, the midwives have to turn the mother and baby over to real doctors....

"f ob's are uncapable of directing a women through the medical needs of pregnancy, than who in the world is qualified?"



"and i'm sure that has .N.O.T.H.I.N.G at all to do with the fact that, as soon as something goes wrong with a delivery, the midwives have to turn the mother and baby over to real doctors...."

thank you! I was goint to post the same points.

You can't take .Tylenol 3 but you can take extra strenth .Tylenol as long as you take it exactly as directed. No other pain meds unless you get the ok from your ob first.

i so disagree. I do not use tylenol at all. My grandfather died from tylenol. He did not use "excessive amounts". My ex-boyfriend's daughter died from tylenol. He gave her one childrens tylenol tab and 2 teaspons of a children's cold medicine that contained tylenol. That was her first dose of each and it proved to be too much for her. I have another relative who died from tylenol in her 20's. Tylenol is not safe for everyone.

i just wanted to say that I was having wisdom tooth problems and spoke with my ob about it and she said that she could give me something but nothing is as safe to take as tylenol. So I did take extra strenght tylenol. I am not too sure what pre-eclamsia has to do with the whole converstaion. Because I did have it, there was nothing wrong with my liver. There aren't any studies on what is safe for pregnant wemon to take bacause they can't do tests on pregnant wemon. I would just go by what your doctor said to do and do that. I wouldn't take anything without asking your ob first. As long as my ob says that it's ok....I dont' have a problem taking tylenol. I guess it's up to you and your doctor. Also I am taking a low dose baby asprin because of the whole blood clot issue. But I am taking one pill a day 50mil. Ibuprofen isn't safe, but then again I am going on what my doc has told me.

I guess every doc and patient is differnt.

actually, no it doesn't have anything to do with that.

The statistics I am speaking of are for normal, healthy pregnancy and childbirth. They do not include complications that require the help of a specialist.

Midwifery care is nonmedical care for assistance with normal, healthy women who have normal, healthy pregnancies. Midwives are very well trained to not only help a woman maintain her health, but also to recognize a situation that is developing outside the range of normal. Very few situations do, by the way.
There is a wide range of care provided that can keep a developing condition from getting to a "high risk" category that would preclude home birth or birth with a midwife in hospital.

Because a midwife works nonmedically, the amount of time she spends with a client prenatally and during labor is crucial. A normal prenatal visit with a midwife will last for 1-2 hours, and the midwife will not only take all the necessary vitals-heart tones of the baby, blood pressure of the mom, etc-she will also check urine for a complete list of possible conditions. She also spends time discussing any concerns with both parents, explaining and training in excellent nutrition and good care, and preparing the parents for childbirth. Before the birth itself, there will be at least one home visit to the parents home to just look over the situation-get a sense of where the birth will take place, make any recommendations, etc.

She will be available to the parents 24/7 by phone, or if there seems to be a need, in person, throughout the pregnancy and postpartum, as well as being there in person throughout the labor and for a couple of hours at least after the baby is born.

Try to get that kind of attention from an obstetrician!

This is the reason the statistics are so good-the midwife becomes almost a member of the family and gets to know the family so well that she can see things developing early-and intervene appropriately.

An ob is a surgical specialist. If something beyond the scope of midwifery care is needed, an ob is a valuable member of the birth team and very necessary if the pregnancy becomes high risk or surgery is needed. However, in the majority of pregnancies, the woman is not in a medical condition-she is in a normal process that the human body (as all mammals) was designed to do, and does extremely well.

Intervention of a medical nature when it is not necessary tends to lead to a snowball effect that then leads to more medical intervention.

Again, if you question my years of training and experience, that's fine. There are several books on the subject.
I would recommend anything by anne frye, as I said before.
Also michel odent-a french obstetrician who set up a birth hospital in france according to midwifery principals and who speaks at a number of midwifery conventions.
Ina may gaskin was a pioneer of the modern midwifery movement, and her book "spiritual midwifery" is a classic from the 70's, but has been recently updated. Ina may has been instrumental in beginning and developing mana-the midwives alliance of north america, to create a national certification system since the laws governing midwifery practice are extremely varied in this country (everything from legal and funded by state health care, in oregon, to illegal in illinois, and a wide range in between).


Again, the statistics I speak of have to do with normal healthy pregnancies, and do not include "high risk" pregnancies that do and should go to medical professionals.
Check it out.

Blessings,
fiora