schmorl's nodes

schmorl's nodes are defined as herniations of the intervertebral disc through the vertebral end-plate.

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definition of schmorl's node

schmorl's node: an upward and downward protrusion (pushing into) of a spinal disk's soft tissue into the bony tissue of the adjacent vertebrae (the bony building blocks of the spine). Schmorl's nodes are detectable with an x-ray test as a spine abnormality .

Schmorl's nodes are most common in the middle and lower spine.

Schmorl's nodes are common, especially with minor degeneration of the aging spine. Schmorl's nodes usually cause no symptoms, but reflect that "wear and tear" of the spine has occurred over time. Schmorl's nodes are a helpful x-ray finding as an indicator of degenerative process that may be affecting a patient's spine.

This site also shows a picture. Very good site.

Http://www.Usresolve.Org/schmorls-nodules_ schmorls-nodes.Php

disc space narrowing means the vertebra are closer together because there is degeneration of the disc.


A patient's guide to degenerative disc disease

http://www.Spineuniversity.Com/public/spin esub.Asp?Id=36


imshirl
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Could any of this that I called off to you cause moderate to severe pain on right lower back, butt and leg??? Thanks!!!

It is not what the mri said, but how did it get there. These types of changes are common with gait issues. Unfortunately, everyone in healthcare usually sectionalizes the body and throws therapies after they give the condition a word such as disc herniation, back strain, etc. It is more appropriate to see how the person walks, functions, and then take a look at their gait and put the puzzle together. This leads to more appropriate treatment. You may benefit from foot orthotics

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Hi fall ~

yes, it can. In fact that is how I was prior to my lumbar surgeries. I have now had a total of 4 lumbar surgeries. I am now fused from l3-s1 with bak cages, rods and screws and I am happy to say I am doing very well. No, I am not pain free but my pain levels are way down and the numbness I had from my waist down has returned for the most part.

As for surgeries I had 2 micro-d's, 1 anterior fusion with bakcages and 1 posterior fusion with rods and screws. Please checkout the link I posted under my name in the last post. I do have my x-rays posted on the board.

Imshirl :d

My pcp sent me to a "back specialist" at which time I told him what my doctors nurse had told me over the phone...That I had a bulging disk at l4-l5. He immediatly set me up for spinal injections. During and after the injections I cried, couldn't sleep and hurt severly...Much worse then before I ever went to him. Then at a check up he asked me why I was hurting on my right side...My injections where on my left side. I didn't understand untill I was able to get to a mirror and realized he had done the injections on my left side and my problems are on my right side!!!
Then he finally asked me to get the mri results...After reading them he had a nurse tell me that I did not need the injections because that is not what he does for the things that I have.

1. He did a procedure without getting my mri results
2. He did it on the wrong side
3. Then he says that I don't even need those injections because that is not the treatment for what I have!!!

I have a friend of mine who is an attorney getting my records from him!!

Also ...Can the narrowing be just narrowing of the disc and not degenertive disk diseas???

If the space for the nerve root (foramen) is already compromised because of associated disc space collapse or bone spurs (osteophytes), the added impingement of the disc may irritate the nerve root and cause a radiculopathy (arm pain). If the foramen is not compromised, the radiculopathy may be temporary.
Foment bag is useful to decrease inflammation and help relieve the pressure on the nerve root. Of cause cease the pain at the same time.
Approximately 90% of disc herniations will occur at l4- l5 (lumbar segments 4 and 5) or l5- s1 (lumbar segment 5 and sacral segment1), which causes pain in the l5 nerve or s1 nerve, respectively.
Foment bag help to restore proper function and strength to the back. Foment bag reduce inflammation to relieve the pain. Foment bag promote circulation eliminate bruises、strengthen spine and bone to heal your back.

Did I miss something?? I did not even understand that post..Sorry

Hi fallruss ~

is it my post you don't understand? I see you are now getting spam replies. Please check out the link I gave as I am sure you will get normal replies where people really care and who will help you understand. I am so sorry you got the reply that was posted before this one. :(

imshirl

Hey fallruss,

i had a herniated disc at l5 8 years ago, finding info on it all from a complete novis point of view is hard. Have had more problems recently due to narrowing of the disc and the pain associated with it. When the disc narrows there is more pressure put on the nerves surrounding it (pretty much the same when you have a herniated disc) that causes pain to shoot down the buttocks, legs and feet (sciatica). I also have pain in my right buttock and leg.... Sometimes in the left too, although thats just when I sit too long. Thats pretty much the lamens example and I hope that you are more informed after talking with your doctors anyway. Sorry about your experience with the doctor. No one should have to go through that and I think that you are justified in seeking council on the matter. The sites that imshirl have given you have helped me a lot in understanding what I was facing........ Unfortunatly your best defence in this case is knowledge. Read up on it all as much as you can. It feels very empowering to know what your doctors talking about.

Good luck.

It take about one moth to cure herniated disc totally.