Doing "it" the Natural Way Posted: 03-22-06 16:31pm
Is there anyone out there who practises
nfp(natural family planning)
we would like to but not really any
classes on that issue lol
i would appreciate the advice, thanks
siobhan
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jenn_smithson
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Re: Doing "it" the Natural Way Posted: 03-24-06 21:48pm
siobhan24
wrote:
is there anyone out there
who practises nfp(natural family
planning)
we would like to but not really any
classes on that issue lol
i would appreciate the advice, thanks
siobhan
are you ready to become
parents if you become pregnant using this
method? If not, I would suggest seeking
a more reliable method of birth control.
My sister, who was largely brainwashed by
this church (read: cult) she attended at
the time, tried nfp when she first became
married. Within two months she was
pregnant even though they had both
attended the classes that the "church"
offered on the subject. The "church"
also told her that if she breastfed my
niece that she wouldn't become pregnant
for at least two years after my nieces
birth. My sister was pregnant with my
second niece three months after the birth
of my first niece. After both of my
nieces were born, they attended the
classes again thinking it was their fault
why the "system" was not working for them.
Within three months again, she was
pregnant again. After my nephew was
born, she requested a tubal ligation.
The church found out and asked them not to
return as tampering with your fertility
was a big no-no to them.
When my sister and her husband were trying
nfp, they literally only had sex during
two weeks out of the month. The week
directly following her period and the week
before her next period. By skipping the
large middle section, they were hoping to
skip their fertile time. Even by taking
her temperature daily and trying to read
the cervical mucus consistency, she still
became constantly pregnant.
I don't advise this "method" unless it
does not matter whether you become
pregnant right away or later. If you are
trying to plan your family carefully, as I
am, I would suggest a more reliable method
or even a barrier method with
spermicide.
Peace,
jenn
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siobhan24
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Posted: 03-26-06 11:59am
I understand your comments, however nfp
when followed properly like all other
contraception is as reliable as the pill.
Nothing is 100% effective, other than not
doing it lol.
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jenn_smithson
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Posted: 03-26-06 21:46pm
siobhan24
wrote:
i understand your comments,
however nfp when followed properly like
all other contraception is as reliable as
the pill. Nothing is 100% effective,
other than not doing it
lol.
i have to disagree with
you. With typical use, that is the use
calculated with human error, the pill or
other hormonal methods are still much more
reliable than nfp. Barrier methods
used typically are much more reliable than
nfp.
As you can see by this sitewww.Contraceptivetechnolog
y.Org/table.Htm (be sure to check your
capitalization), typically about 25% of
.Women using some form of nfp will become
pregnant in a year. That is 1 in 4
.Women using nfp.
Comparitively, 15% of .Women relying on
the male condom will become pregnant in a
year. That is 3 .Women in 20.
Already, that is better odds even with
only typical use of these two methods.
With the combined pill and mini-pill,
typically 8% of .Women will become
pregnant in a year. That is 2 .Women
out of 25.
With an iud, the chances are even lower,
between .8% and .1%. That is less than
1 .Woman out of 100.
As you can see, with typical use of nfp, 1
in 4 .Women relying on that method will
become pregnant in a year. With a
condom, that chance is slightly smaller.
With a hormonal method, that chance
becomes even smaller. And, with an
iud, that chance is as low as it gets
without resorting to sterilization.
Again, if you have decided on nfp then I
wish you good luck. However, if you
have a greater need to more accurately
plan your family then I would recommend
going with a different method. Even a
barrier method will offer you more
protection, with typical use, than nfp.
Peace,
jenn
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thisbattymom
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Fertility Awareness Is An Excellent Option Posted: 03-30-06 10:14am
Get a copy of "taking charge of your
fertility" by toni weschler
visit www.Ovusoft.Com to
download the software.
Buy a basal thermometer (more accurate
than a regular digital) and start charting
today... It takes only about 3 cycles to
get the hang of it.
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rasuyoung
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Posted: 03-30-06 16:20pm
This method (nfp) works best for women who
have very regular cycles, because they can
better track their fertile times. If your
period tends to be irregular, I wouldn't
recommend it.
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thisbattymom
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Posted: 03-30-06 20:35pm
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starshyne530
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Posted: 04-01-06 19:18pm
Hmm... Making charts, testing fluids,
checking temperatures... Sounds like a
lot of unnecessary work when you could
just pop a pill every day, or slap on a
patch every week.
Not to mention what a buzz kill... "gee
whiz honey, im totally in the mood, but
according to my charts and calculations,
these next couple weeks arent any good for
sex... Sorry"... Lame.
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thisbattymom
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Posted: 04-01-06 20:09pm
:shock:
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jenn_smithson
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Posted: 04-02-06 16:04pm
thisbattymom
wrote:
the important thing is to
remember that your body is designed to
have babies and it will be working towards
that goal.
I have to seriously
disagree with you on this.
First, we do not have any physical signs
of our ovulation that other species do.
Other mammals can become pregnant when
they are in heat and are bleeding. Our
monthly bleeding is not accompanied by any
increased chance of successful
implantation. We, also, do not have the
physical changes that other species have
to let eachother know when they are most
likely to become pregnant.
Second, our vagina's, cervix, and uterus
are all highly acidic. This acidity
kills large numbers of sperm before they
can even near the fallopian tubes. And,
from the moment of ejaculation, the
.Woman's body fights what it views as
invading foreign bodies. Of the millions
of sperm which are introduced in a single
ejaculate, only a few hundred will
actually reach the uterus. Of those few
hundred, half will go down the wrong
fallopian tube as typically, only one egg
from one ovary is released at a time.
Third, the surface of the egg is hard for
a specific evolutionary purpose. It is
meant to only allow the strongest,
healthiest sperm to fertilize it. Of the
few hundred sperm that make it this far,
none may be able to enter the egg
successfully in any given month.
Fourth, we can only experience a
fertilization less than one day a month.
If the purpose of our bodies were to
become pregnant, if our bodies were
actively working to that end, our window
of opportunity would not be as small as it
is.
Fifth, even if fertilization occurs, there
is no gaurantee that the fertilized egg
will implant into the lining of the
uterus. This action, too, has a very
limited window of opportunity. The
lining of the uterus softens during 24
hours when the hormone levels are optimal.
Ideally, this would occur exactly 6-7
days following fertilization. However,
it seems as though our bodies do not
follow the ideal as the softening can
occur at any time and is not subject to
whether you experience a fertilization or
not. If the lining has not softened,
implantation will not take place. This
happens a majority of the time,
approximately 2/3rds of the time.
Failure to implant accounts for the
majority of infertility issues in the
.U.S. In fact, about 15% of .American
couples experience infertility which is
failure to become pregnant when they wish
for up to a full year.
And finally, the .Woman's body not only
fights the sperm when it enters her body
as a "foreign entity" but also fights the
establishment and support of the fetus.
There are several medical problems and
complications which arise only within
pregnancy because the body is fighting
what it sees as an invasion. Of the
.Women who become pregnant in a year, half
will experience a miscarriage because
their body was successful in blocking or
ending the pregnancy.
As you can see, our bodies do not actively
work to get pregnant. In fact, the
opposite is more true. We may be able to
become pregnant and carry a pregnancy but
that does not mean that that is our bodies
sole purpose. After all, we may develop
cancer during our lives and that cancer
can be completely naturally occurring but
that doesn't mean that our bodies actively
try to develop cancers.
Quote:
if you choose not
to obey the rules and observe the signs
you will not know what is going on and
risk having a baby. If you are aware of
how your body works, watch for your
personal signs of impending fertility
(increase in sexual arousal, cervical
fluid that gets progressively more
slippery and wet and stretchy, changes in
cervical position, enlarging of the
cervical os, etc... You will know when
to begin engaging in alternate intimate
behaviors.
just because someone
relies on a different method of birth
control than you it doesn't mean that they
don't know how their particular body
works.
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you will be
stunned at all the misinformation we've
been manipulated with all these
years.
obviously, misinformation
can work both ways.
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jenn_smithson
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Posted: 04-02-06 16:23pm
thisbattymom
wrote:
that is entirely your
choice. Some people don't care what
happens and aren't concerned about the
long term health of their bodies. Some
people aren't comfortable learning about
their own
bodies.
there's no need to be
passive agressive just because someone
disagrees with you.
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some of us find
the serious side effects of hormonal
contraception to just not be worth
it.
some of us have done
the research and find the minimal side
effects manageable.
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that is not lame,
that is respectful communication and
mutual responsibility. Something bcps
remove from intimate
relationships.
this is simply your
opinion. My husband not only
communicates with me on all contraception
but knows exactly which brand I am using,
when I use it, and when my cycle is due.
There is no reason why using hormonal
birth control will end all respectful
communication or mutual responsibility.
