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amazing how they think like this when it is down to them, wonder what her mother thinks of her.So she robbed her own mother of the nutrients that she needed but is not prepared to go through it herself how f**king selfish are these people


how selfish are .W.E?? Lmao, thesepeople who believe thatthey know better than women in a crisis pregnancy, those who believe that women should go through with having deformed babies because they believe it's right. I swear, it amazes me how out of reality somepeople are. How on earth is imposing your generalised views a good thing? Resorting to insults and being so narrow minded just stops the pro-life movement beng taken seriously. If they don't agree with abortion then it's simple - don't have one but don't think you have te right to interfere in other womens lives who you know nothing about!!!!
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replied March 20th, 2006
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They well never learn that we are not selfish, that we are understanding and there is a big difference but let them think the way they want as long as we know the truth. They want babies born without no hope that has been born without organs that cannot be replaced and they call us selfish, just so they can get a picture or see it or hold it and they call us freaking selfish, how sad they are, how very little they know. If I were their kid I could not come to them and tell them that I would want an abortion either I think that it is people like that that the law was passed, as they are not open or understanding like we are. If they could only see the pro-lifers that come in and get an abortion and two days later they are walking around, carrying the pro-life sign.
They want to play god when they are sooo far from it, when they are not walking in these other pregnant womens shoes, they have no idea what hell they are going through and why they need and want an abortion.
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replied March 21st, 2006
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Just because i'm aware that the person who made the above quote reads this forum I would like to point out that resorting to punctuation mistakes (when I have clearly explained a reason for this) does not make for good debate. It's childish and simply serves to display that you have no true foundaions for your accusations. I am aware I brought his false claims regarding charities to light but a simple "i was wrong" statement would have been the decent thing to do.

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this is the idiot who cannot tell when a post was made and when proved wrong accuses other people of making mistakes, lol.

i think my law degree and career indicates I am certainly not an idiot. I did not realise initially that the post was old but it did get a response from you (the previous being ignored). You .D.I.D. Make a mistake and I simply pointed that out. Now grow up and start debating.

Sandyallen, I totally agree with your post. It seems that people just have a very narrow view (when pro-life) and attempt to generalize, forgetting that no two situations are the same. Until they have been in a position where they needed an abortion then they need to stop interfearing with the rights of women.
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replied March 21st, 2006
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moo wrote:
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amazing how they think like this when it is down to them, wonder what her mother thinks of her.So she robbed her own mother of the nutrients that she needed but is not prepared to go through it herself how f**king selfish are these people


even though this was probably not directed at me, I have an answer that I give to this.

First, I was born after roe. Therefore, my mother had ample opportunity to decide not to remain pregnant. However, since she .P.L.A.N.N.E.D to become pregnant and .P.L.A.N.N.E.D my birth (and to a large degree a large portion of my life), I was a very much wanted and loved child. I have had everything that I could possibly need and want my entire life. In comparison, my husband's mother did not plan his birth or childhood. He lived in crushing poverty for the first 18 years of his life until he met and moved in with me. Neither of my sisters planned their pregnancies and they also live in very poor conditions with a very low quality of life with their children.

Secondly, my mother has always told me that this was my life and that I had to live it, no one else. When I experienced my ectopic pregnancy, she was the second person I told (my husband being the first). She was very caring but very firm. She told me not to let my emotions get in the way of the decision that had to be made, that the longer I waited, the more risk I was taking. Then, when I discovered that it was ectopic, she told me not to forget that even though I had no choice that I had already made a decision. In that way she didn't want to see me become a victim to fate. My mother is a prochoice feminist, always has been and always will be. She supports women in whatever choice that they make just as she supported me. She made her choices, she planned both of her pregnancies, and I made my choice in planning my family.

Thirdly, "selfishness", much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. To me, my mother-in-law was selfish in starting to have children very young when she did not have the skills necessary to care for them. To me, both of my sisters were selfish for bringing more children into the world after they had had their first even though they were already living in poverty with their first children. My own mother, however, I have never viewed as being selfish. She had me and my brother when she knew she was ready, when she had the resources not only to take care of us but also to take care of my half and step sisters, and when she wanted to. She has used every tool available to her to keep from becoming or remaining pregnant when she knew that she could not offer a decent existence to her child.

Fourthly, some of these people seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care at all what they think of me and my decisions. Call me selfish, call me whatever you wish because I know it's not true and because the only person's opinions that concern me are my own. I am planning my family, using every tool available to me to do so, very carefully so that my own children have all (and more) of the opportunities that I had. This includes a decent home (and not the shack's both of my sisters still reside in), a well-paying job with opportunities for promotion, stable and reliable transportation, my master's degree (i refuse to have children until I feel that I have the proper amount of education to secure the wealth that it will take to give them a proper education), and savings and investments. If we never obtain these things to a sufficient level, then it will be irresponsible of us to have children that we cannot properly care for.

And lastly, people who have never experienced a problem pregnancy or an unwanted pregnancy lack the ability to emphathize with .Women who are laboring under these stressful conditions. Because of this, .Women who are experiencing this should make their decisions themselves, without the interference of people who cannot understand the true reasons why any woman would obtain an abortion.
Peace,
jenn
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replied March 22nd, 2006
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Are you the same pro-lifer who posted in the poll? I think you are. Go away if you are pro-life.
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replied March 22nd, 2006
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Read the rules, if you're not pro-choice then don't post here. It's not difficult to understand. Pro-lifers post on the pro-life board, pro-choicers here. You want to debate then there's a whole other board for that.
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replied March 22nd, 2006
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Moo
I am a bit confused here, rough night at work, which did not help, you said the poster above, which was me as I am not that great at punctuation myself at times. I never called you an idiot or a dumb arse because I think you seem to be pretty good people and as far as punctuation goes, even I have someone that does my paper work for me.
And I do agree with you most pro-lifer's are very narrow minded aand do not understand and never well unless the tables are turned and something happenss to them.
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replied March 22nd, 2006
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If you want to come on here you can use a username besides guest or do not bother, if it is an accident then I do understand.
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replied March 23rd, 2006
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wow another pro choicer trying to tell people what to do


actually, that is anti choicers who do that. Telling women what they can do with their bodies. Try again, cowboy.
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replied March 23rd, 2006
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Sandyallen, the stuff above where I mentioned your name was not aimed at you!

Guest, I don't "jump" on pro-lifers. This is a pro-choice board, I am allowed to express my annoyance at someone who was rude and the fact that I disagree that pro-lifers believe they know more about a situation and what's best than the woman actually in it.

Cowboys/skar, you're not pro-choice. Please don't post here.
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replied March 23rd, 2006
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Just because one person posts on the pro-life board who isn't pro-life doesn't mean that you should be posting here. Everyone needs to stick to their "own" board and stop posting on the others. It's not hard to understand
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replied March 23rd, 2006
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I liked the post of pro-lifer's name calling, I believe it was name clling of ".Morons" saying that I was sniveling or whatever about hotasfrick not being here it just goes to show their menatality, I wished I had time in my life to sit down and degrade others that I did not know me, it totally made me laugh, I have seen kindergardners act older then that but it did give me a good laugh and I never said nothing anti tazzy, as I like tazzy as their is nothing wrong with missing the good ole days. Total immaturity to me. It is tooo bad they do not understand anything. I have known blind people that can see and feel and understand better then they ever well. At least they are good for a sick laugh!
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replied March 24th, 2006
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anonymous wrote:
if what people say makes no difference why bother posting, why waste your time and ours posting something when you care not if people understand you.
i was offering the common explanations that I give to those who actually ask me questions about my experience to learn something themselves. For all others simply seeking to pass judgement or feel morally superior, I don't care. And, if it was a waste of time for you, no one forced you to read it or respond to it. ;)

as for myself, I feel that if others here can learn from my post then it is never a waste of time for me to take a few minutes and post. I also believe that you misunderstood me. I do care that people who are open minded enough to seriously question me understand that which I am trying to impart to them. For the closed minded, however, I do not care which is why I do not post on the anti-choice forum.
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replied April 3rd, 2006
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Pro-life honestlyexpects me to remove "offenside" pro-choice comments from this board when all they do on their board is complain about me and other pro-choicers? Ha! Don't make me laugh.
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replied April 4th, 2006
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lolbahlolbah147 wrote:
eiri wrote:
pro-life honestlyexpects me to remove "offenside" pro-choice comments from this board when all they do on their board is complain about me and other pro-choicers? Ha! Don't make me laugh.


don't worry... Tazzy will do it for them.


if I feel that something needs to be removed or deleted or locked.. I will do so.. That is my title not your's....
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replied April 4th, 2006
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What pro-life post? ;)
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