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Melissa_20

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Posted: 03-23-06 09:17am

Aww,see you have something in common with someone! I think they are right,do your thing and meet people while your doing it!
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Eternal

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Re: Gosh I Couldn't Believe This!
Posted: 03-23-06 18:00pm

haliparot wrote:
first of all..Whoever you are...We share a lot of things in common...Not really on relationship since I already have been in two serious and long relationships. Reading through your post, I found myself thinking why nobody was attracted to you because I think you are a really great, witty, talented and passionate guy. I was surprised that we have a lot of things in common. When you described yourself, I found myself amazed because I too have a passion for knowledge and language. Actually, I have learned 3 languages myself. I am also sensitive, passionate and I value relationships. And what really surprised me is when you mentioned that you would like to change the world for the better in any way. Oh my gosh! That's my signature sentence in every profile that I make. You know what here's the answer to your question. I believe that girls like you but, they become intimidated of your wit and knowledge. Reading through your post, I concluded that you are a smart person who is good in expressing himself and I like that. Consider yourself rare! Any girl would be very lucky to have you! Don't worry. The right girl will come. The best advice that I can give: search for a girl in your school who has the same interest as you have like join a school club that focused on your hobbies and interest and meet people through there. Don't worry too much about it! I think i've already mentioned this but I think you are a great person! Good luck..


wow, that really made me smile... :d I think perhaps that writing down my feelings is a form of relief, because I often feel frustrated that I cannot sometimes express my true self in any other way. As I said before, when I become nervous, my ability to speak is severely impaired, my voice is often quiet and my enunciation very unclear, and it is extremely difficult to counteract this. This is not only restricted to typical moments when one is nervous - e.G. A speech/talking to an important person, but also on general occasions as well. I'm not sure how I could portray the same impression in real life as I have done in what I have written here, as I have the feeling that the two images are very different.
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haliparot

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Joined: 20 Nov 2004
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Posted: 03-23-06 22:36pm

I suggest..Relax and practice....Start with some of your friends and try to improve I think there are some videos that can help you..Try searching the net...You have to gift you just have to open it..What I mean is you have the talent of expressing yourself you just have to open it and express it in real life...Don't stress..It's alright...I think you can do it! Plus! As a girl I find it quite cute sometimes when guys have a hard time expressing themselves..I don't know but they look inoccent..Lol..
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Eternal

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Posted: 03-26-06 13:27pm

I can't find anything sufficient to help on the net, and I have considered counselling, but I wonder whether I actually have a true problem that is worth the counsellor's time, or whether it will cause unnecessary worry for those around me by the word "counselling". I have so much in my mind that I cannot express to others, and I just don't know how to convey this in my personality...Well I know "how" logically, but I can't seem to do it very often... When I feel more confident, I can show myself more naturally, but it is still only one fraction of my personality. In fact, if somebody asks me what's wrong, I just can't open my mouth and say it, even if I know what to say, perhaps I am too embarassed or scared to reveal my secret self, especially talking about how I feel within my soul is a female "me" as well as my male side, which nobody I have talked to can relate to directly. Normally I have to ask to write it down to read. If somebody argues with or shouts at me, normally I say little or nothing, and afterwards I muse over how I should have stood up for myself and answered back. It is paradoxical, because more than anything I want people to see me as I am, and the only thing stopping that is my own automatic reactions which repress the person inside.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 03-26-06 14:13pm

Hi there! You have answered a lot of your own questions, for example, yes, you are negative to a certain extent. When you go out with a female , at 1st, it is to have a good time, to get to know, her and to see if you are compatible and then you move to the second level of possibly having a relationship and carrying it on, just like buying a pair of shoes, you do not buy a pair of shoes without trying them on, the same goes with having a relationship, you need to find out if this female fits in your lifestyle 1st before you move on into a relationship. If you feel that you need to talk to a shrink, that is your choice. Most of us has been hurt at one time or other in our lives, that does happen, it is kind of like falling, you have to pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on and I realize that it is sometimes difficult but you have to do it as it is part of life. As far as your looks, beauty is only skin deep, if you are 18,15 or 16 it is age
i always felt 20 was a difficult age, as you are not an adult and you are not a teenager.
Ihope this has helped! Just do not be in a hurry!
Good luck to you!
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Eternal

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Re: Eternal
Posted: 03-27-06 14:57pm

sandyallen wrote:
hi there! You have answered a lot of your own questions, for example, yes, you are negative to a certain extent. When you go out with a female , at 1st, it is to have a good time, to get to know, her and to see if you are compatible and then you move to the second level of possibly having a relationship and carrying it on, just like buying a pair of shoes, you do not buy a pair of shoes without trying them on, the same goes with having a relationship, you need to find out if this female fits in your lifestyle 1st before you move on into a relationship. If you feel that you need to talk to a shrink, that is your choice. Most of us has been hurt at one time or other in our lives, that does happen, it is kind of like falling, you have to pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on and I realize that it is sometimes difficult but you have to do it as it is part of life. As far as your looks, beauty is only skin deep, if you are 18,15 or 16 it is age
i always felt 20 was a difficult age, as you are not an adult and you are not a teenager.



Ihope this has helped! Just do not be in a hurry!



Good luck to you!


a lot of what you have said is what I have also told myself - going out with another girl is first to know her - and this is my approach the majority of the time. In fact, most of my friends are female, so I certainly don't view girls as "alien" or inaccessible in any way, quite the opposite in fact. However, it's only when I start to become interested in another girl (which has happened about four times in my life) then the feelings I mention before come into play. On the few occasions that any girl has given a hint of returning any of my feelings, I experience a fleeting of overwhelming emotion which overrides any sense of restraint over "being in a hurry". The main reason is that it is because I seek some kind of intimate love, connection and affection, of which so far my life has been barren. I can't understand why so many men have desire for sex with many women, I couldn't care less about it - perhaps it is a viewpoint of a naive virgin, but I could easily do without sex with another woman I was intimate with, even if I have the normal sexual feelings. I don't know why I am so alone, when even other men who have even less confidence than me sometimes don't even have to flirt, and women have attraction and feelings towards them simply for the people that they are. In fact it very often happens that I develop a very special friendship with a girl/woman, but often she will fall in love with another man, with no desire for me - not that this is particularly terrible for me, since often the feeling is mutual, but there does seem to be a noticeable pattern...

Whether I like it or not, my subconscious thought process is this... "i am in no way a typical man. Women are attracted to men, not men of which their identity is merged with a female, that is why men and women have typical traits, because that is what attracts them to each other". I don't know how to break this chain of thought, and often I feel I could give a lot of love in a relationship, but I can't attract anyone, hence the title, especially at face value - if you look at my picture, does it say "man" to you? I highly doubt it. In fact my identity switches between male and female, which is explained by this article - "the male lesbian". Htt p://www.Love-shy.Com/gilmartin/chapter05/m alelesbian.Html

although initially ridiculous, this explains my gender identity almost exactly.
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Eternal

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Posted: 04-11-06 06:38am

melissa_20 wrote:
eternal wrote:
melissa_20 wrote:
take no offense to this,but maybe its b/c you look so young? When I looked at your pic I thought you were 16,i had to look again to see how old you said you were.


yes, I have often thought about it - your estimate is quite generous, most people say I look about 13-15...I become self conscious of this and often I feel people are treating me as a younger person, but this is obviously a problem I can't change. Another reason is that nervousness affects my speech more than most - if I am worried about saying something it's not so much what I am saying but whether I can put a sentence together orally. People almost always ask me to repeat myself, either because I am unclear or speak too quietly or state a complex sentence quickly, and I feel that my voice must sound awful on the ear. However, like I mentioned before, this is rare if I speak another language - perhaps because if I make a silly mistake I have an excuse for it.
Also, I am not often sure of what I want - if I feel attracted to a girl I won't think "great, i'll flirt with her", I have to measure her up for a long time and the vast majority of the time I don't sense any emotional (amourous) connection (this is not a logical, it's my emotional decision), and often I tell myself its pointless to flirt just for the hell of it. However, I have a lot of trouble showing my personality, the main problem being that I don't feel that repressed, but somehow my true self often doesn't show through, but I want to share it with somebody I deeply care for.


first of all the way you speak to people may be a problem.I understand this may be a charactoristic of your but when you speak to people they may think "wow,he's really smart" and they feel intimidated by you.Try using words pepole commonly use.Secondly you,i'll be right back


actually, I feel the opposite happens - when i'm nervous I can't appear to talk properly and I probably come across as a lot less articulate than I actually am, although I am typically dubbed a "smart person" so it is possible people may feel intimidated. Personally, attraction from my side is relatively rare as well, I can count the amount of people I have been signifiantly attracted to - three, and a few more to a lesser extent. When I look at profiles of blogs/dating sites, etc, they all appear to say the same thing "like clubbing/drinking/having a laugh/shopping with my m8s/don't like being bored", which are so b-o-r-i-n-g... But I have no idea where I can simply go out, find somebody compatible and have the possibility to start dating - for older people over 25, going out and finding mature women is not so much of a problem, but for me it seems impossible. I don't know how much longer I can wait for emotional closeness after 18 years - it's not necessarily a girlfriend/partner I want to find instantly (it would be ideal, but I know I can't simply make love happen out of thin air) but at least a sense of emotional closeness and true intimacy with somebody. It may be surprising, but despite being an 18 year old male, I really have little interest in sex, only in physical/emotional closeness - I have the normal sexual desires like anybody else, but for me, it is the icing on the cake and the culmination of emotional intimacy, but I could easily live without it, except to have children.
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