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Q: Curious Girl...
asked by: backhome22 on February 12th, 2006
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I would like to know your reasons to why you believe a person who is raped and puts the baby up for adoption is "a sick individual", as you posted earlier.
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curious_girl82
replied on February 12th, 2006
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Holy s**t, did I say that? I cant find where it was posted, but I believe I may have worded my thoughts wrong. I apologize if anyone was offended. :) as of right now, I admit I am stuck..... I will get back to you on that, maybe. And no, I do not think if you are raped and get pregnant and then put the child up for adoption makes you a sick person.. That would be a very intense decision to make....
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backhome22
replied on February 12th, 2006
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It's posted under "women's rights 2", the 18th post down.
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Carifairy
replied on February 12th, 2006
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I do not think it is sick at all to put a baby up for adoption. But being forced to put a rapists baby up for adoption (if abortion is illegal) would be very very sick.
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curious_girl82
replied on February 12th, 2006
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Ah ha! I found it. I was saying basically, for people who tell a woman (who has been impregnated by a man who has raped her) that it would be wrong to get an abortion, are sick.. Not the woman herself,even if she chooses to carry through with the pregnancy.
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backhome22
replied on February 13th, 2006
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Understood
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Tylanas
replied on February 15th, 2006
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Re: Curious Girl...
bahahahahahaha123 wrote:
backhome22 wrote:
i would like to know your reasons to why you believe a person who is raped and puts the baby up for adoption is "a sick individual", as you posted earlier.


you do realize that rapists have rights to the child born, right? So if he refuses to give his consent to adoption, what then? She can give him the child to raise and then be forced to pay child support for it. You anti choicers are edit.


no way!!! They do?? I think rapists should die already... And now they have rights to a child they made out of hate and greed and power-lust, a baby made while harming the mother!?
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sadness
replied on February 16th, 2006
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Re: Curious Girl...
bahahahahahaha123 wrote:
eiri wrote:
no way!!! They do?? I think rapists should die already... And now they have rights to a child they made out of hate and greed and power-lust, a baby made while harming the mother!?


yup. Just because they rape women doesn't make them bad fathers.


please if i've read this wrong but are you saying that men who rape can be good dads? How can they be good dads when they think it's ok to rape? Any man who thinks that can not bring up children to be loving caring adults are mad!!!! Men who rape have no respect for women full stop!! So they will show there sons it's ok to disrespect women and their daughters that it's ok for men to hurt and use you.

If my rapist thought that he had a right to tell me what to do with the child he left inside me then he is an ass as much as anyone who thinks he has a right!!!!
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~*~Jillian~*~
replied on February 16th, 2006
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Very true !
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lsipes
replied on February 16th, 2006
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I actually read something a while ago about this. In a nutshell, it said that any woman that became pregnant as result of a rape, had to put an ad in the paper stating her desire to have an abortion and wait to see if the rapist/father replied within a certain time. If no response, she was "allowed" to abort. incredibly ridiculous. It isn't a law, but it was being considered.
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Tylanas
replied on February 16th, 2006
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Re: Curious Girl...
sadness wrote:
bahahahahahaha123 wrote:
eiri wrote:
no way!!! They do?? I think rapists should die already... And now they have rights to a child they made out of hate and greed and power-lust, a baby made while harming the mother!?


yup. Just because they rape women doesn't make them bad fathers.


please if i've read this wrong but are you saying that men who rape can be good dads? How can they be good dads when they think it's ok to rape? Any man who thinks that can not bring up children to be loving caring adults are mad!!!! Men who rape have no respect for women full stop!! So they will show there sons it's ok to disrespect women and their daughters that it's ok for men to hurt and use you.


If my rapist thought that he had a right to tell me what to do with the child he left inside me then he is an ass as much as anyone who thinks he has a right!!!!


no, she was being sarcastic actually. It doesn't come off over the net very well, but i've been here long enough to know her sense of sarcasm.
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sadness
replied on February 17th, 2006
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Ok curious girl

i just get mad when people say that a rapist has rights to tell me if I terminate his baby. When you've been raped the last thing you need is to have to face the b*****d again and ask him if he minds you terminating his child!!!! It's a joke to think they have a right!!!

They don't think of you when they are hurting you at that moment so why should we think about them when we have to face again what they have done to us. It's taken me nearly 2 yrs to be able to go out without being scared I will see him again.
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sadness
replied on February 17th, 2006
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Re: Curious Girl...
bahahahahahaha123 wrote:



sadness wrote:
if my rapist thought that he had a right to tell me what to do with the child he left inside me then he is an ass as much as anyone who thinks he has a right!!!!


regardless, he has parental rights. You can't take them away because you don't like him.


how does he have parental rights? He had no right to be asked if I should terminate or not!!! He took my soul from me the day he raped me!! I would love for him to come to me and tell me I had no right to terminate the child!!! I would terminate him too

i have one question for you bahahahahahaha123:

if you was raped and then found out you was carrying his child would you ask him if you could terminate it?
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sadness
replied on February 17th, 2006
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Sorry if seemed like I was personnally attacking you but I get really upset about this

hope we can be ok
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Tylanas
replied on February 17th, 2006
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skar wrote:
sadness wrote:
sorry if seemed like I was personnally attacking you but I get really upset about this

hope we can be ok


sadness don,t worry hun in our country the rapist has no parental right he is done for a sex offence therfore he would be classe4d as a moral danger in our family courts :wink:


your country being... Not america I assume? Are you one of the women from britan? :) I definately don't think that law should be on the boks in america, it's sickening.
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JanetBee
replied on February 17th, 2006
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The trouble is when people talk about a "rapist" and getting pregnant from rape, they have in mind a stranger in an alley, or a woman being attacked. But a lot of women who are raped, it's by men they are in a relationship with, or even their husbands. That's what happened to a friend of mine when she was a teenager. They started having sex, doing either pull-out or using condoms, and one day he just said he wanted to do it without one, and not pull-out, and he just held her down. She got pregnant. That was rape, even if she didn't go to the police or whatever, but after that she had an abortion and never spoke to him again.
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Tylanas
replied on February 17th, 2006
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Something like 90% of rapes are done to women (or men) by people they already know. It doesn't make it any less rape, and it doesn't give the man any more rights to the life of that child, just because he happens to be dating the woman he raped. From the sound of your post, you agree with me.
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curious_girl82
replied on February 17th, 2006
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No Tolerance
Personally you guys, I have no tolerance whatever for any man who can easily rape a woman...Same goes for molesters and so fourth...Those are sick editand do not have a god damn right to anything as far as I am concerned, much less to father a child....No a rapist does not have any say so to his victims unborn child...The editneed to be put away..Or how about line em all up and give em a taste of their own incredibly medicine? And if it is rape/molesting by a friend or family member, well, same goes for them>>>line em up!
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Tylanas
replied on February 17th, 2006
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Re: No Tolerance
curious_girl82 wrote:
personally you guys, I have no tolerance whatever for any man who can easily rape a woman...Same goes for molesters and so fourth...Those are sick edit and do not have a god damn right to anything as far as I am concerned, much less to father a child....No a rapist does not have any say so to his victims unborn child...The edit need to be put away..Or how about line em all up and give em a taste of their own incredibly medicine? And if it is rape/molesting by a friend or family member, well, same goes for them>>>line em up!


well, despite the fact that I agree with you, it doesn't change the fact that the law is on the books of a few states. Even you stead-fast pro-lifers can agree that a rapist should never have any say in what the woman does with her body and the fetus?
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curious_girl82
replied on February 17th, 2006
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It is disgusting and sickening what people can get away with... That editmakes my heart hurt and my skin crawl....
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