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WRS

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Discogram
Posted: 02-08-06 00:50am

I was wondering if any of you might know if it is an absolute 110% surefire thing to have to have a discogram before undergoing disc replacement surgery. I really feel strongly against having one done since my mri basically spells everything out in a nutshell. Should I stand my ground and decline to have one done or just give in and hope it's not as bad as everyone says it is. Thanks in advance.
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IMShirl

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Posted: 02-08-06 19:12pm

Wrs ~

I have not had adr surgery but I have had several levels fused and if I were you I would most definitely have a discogram done even if you think the mri says all. Remember an mri doesn't show everything all the time. You want to make sure with the discogram that your pain is for sure coming from the discs and to be sure it is not discs and your facet joints. If you have problems with your facet joints were you told an adr may not be the right answer?? Be sure, the more tests the better when it comes to surgery. Have you ever been to the adr support board/forum?? If you want the link let me know and I willpost it for you.


Imshirl :)
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Tamadrummer

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Posted: 02-08-06 20:13pm

I totally agree with shirl, the discogram is basically the only way to verify for sure that the disc in question is the base for your pain.

If they do surgery on the questionable disc and it is not the generator of pain, you will be in sorry shape.

I also have had the charite 3 adr done at l5/s1 and my disc pain is fixed but my pain is not fixed. I now have facetogenic pain and need more surgery.

There is not a sure fire fix for back pain.
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Nevets

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Posted: 03-30-06 13:25pm

I just had a discogram.
One of the disks was basically trashed, and I knew it from the mri.
But still, the doctor was able to identify that I am a candidate for an idet, which is minimally invasive. Also it seems that I am having more pain from the less damaged disk above it. The really bad one is l5-si, and doesn't really impinge upon many nerves. So the doctor will repair the one disk, and hit the other at the same time anyway. It seems that the heat application from the procedure stimulates collagen growth. So he hopes that perhaps this other disk will regerate some amount of cushioning.
In any case, I would have thought for sure that I was in invasive surgery based soley upon the mri. Instead the discogram proved that I was able to get by with less invasive treatment.
I have to say though that I had sapsms in my lower back for close to a week after the discogram. So stock up on muscle relaxants and pain meds. Not to scare any one.... But I was slightly taken by surprise by this.
Preparation is everything.
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aroutzahn05

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Diskograms
Posted: 05-05-06 13:22pm

I ended up having two disograms done due to the first doctor not checking both one up from the effected area and one below. The first time I had it done it was the most excruitiating thing I have ever had done. The second time it was a piece of cake because the two disks checked that time were normal. Nothing can prepare you for the pain or the spasms from the diskogram. Good luck!
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crafty52

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Re: Discogram
Posted: 10-27-07 21:40pm

WRS wrote:
I was wondering if any of you might know if it is an absolute 110% surefire thing to have to have a discogram before undergoing disc replacement surgery. I really feel strongly against having one done since my mri basically spells everything out in a nutshell. Should I stand my ground and decline to have one done or just give in and hope it's not as bad as everyone says it is. Thanks in advance.


It was a piece of cake!! I was scared to death! I had my 1st disco two weeks ago on my L4, L5, and Rt hip. I received immediate relief. My rt leg was numb due to the med for a couple of days. But the relief was AMAZING. Now I am facing my second set of injections in a few days. I have an outstanding doctor and his wonderful staff who have guided me all the way. This was majorly due to a SEVERE wreck 11 yrs ago. I couldn't ask for better relief! I had to be off from work 2-3 days. I COULD LIVE AGAIN!!! The disco will last for 6months to 3 years, depending upon how I care for myself, it will be worth it at 52 YOA!
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aroutzahn05

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Re: Discogram
Posted: 10-30-07 13:03pm

crafty52 wrote:
WRS wrote:
I was wondering if any of you might know if it is an absolute 110% surefire thing to have to have a discogram before undergoing disc replacement surgery. I really feel strongly against having one done since my mri basically spells everything out in a nutshell. Should I stand my ground and decline to have one done or just give in and hope it's not as bad as everyone says it is. Thanks in advance.


It was a piece of cake!! I was scared to death! I had my 1st disco two weeks ago on my L4, L5, and Rt hip. I received immediate relief. My rt leg was numb due to the med for a couple of days. But the relief was AMAZING. Now I am facing my second set of injections in a few days. I have an outstanding doctor and his wonderful staff who have guided me all the way. This was majorly due to a SEVERE wreck 11 yrs ago. I couldn't ask for better relief! I had to be off from work 2-3 days. I COULD LIVE AGAIN!!! The disco will last for 6months to 3 years, depending upon how I care for myself, it will be worth it at 52 YOA!


Sorry Crafty52 but I think you may be confused as to the name of your procedure. It sounds as if you had cortisone injections to relieve pain in your lumbar area and right hip. A discogram is a procedure when a nerosurgeon goes into an area of the spine while placing a needle into discs to determine which discs are abnormal. This procedure is very painful and causes spasms when the disc is actually abnormal, but does not hurt when it is normal.

I wish you luck and I actually hope the injections do work for you. If they do you are truly lucky. I wish my injections worked. I ended up having a three level fusion with dynesis system put into my lumbar area. I had that surgery two years ago and have regretted it since.
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