I feel both your pain m-k and anttm04 - I
also have a child who has been diagnosed
as possible bipolar. Until you have a
child like this, you really cannot relate.
I was also a child like my son....But I
was undiagnosed & didn't get help
until I was 30. I am hoping for my son
to have a better youth than I did. It's
very hard dealing with these children
because they don't understand it
themselves. Ignore these ignorant people
who are telling you that you are a crazy
unfit mom for putting your child on
meds..They haven't been there. As for
the dr who said to give the kids fish oil
- I do support that - but I can't get my
son to take it!! My endocrinologist says
it would solve a lot of adhd if kids took
the fish oil. Anyway -i wanted you two
to know you are not alone!! Stacy
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Stacy11524 Posted: 05-08-06 13:57pm
You have a great attitude! Don't worry
about those that are saying those negative
things about you or anyone else, they are
not walking in your shoes. I bet you are
a good .Mom.
The best to you and yours!
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anttm04
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 121
Stacy11524 Posted: 05-09-06 16:06pm
Thank you, stacy, for your post...If you
ever need to chat, let me know...My son
has finally stabilized, so things have
calmed down a great deal here.. :d
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ashleyefc
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 3
Posted: 05-21-06 11:52am
Hi! I'm new to this too. My daughter
just turned 14. She was diagnosed adhd
and bipolar about 1yr. Ago. I didn't
really have much too much of a hard time
with her til 10-11yrs.Old. Don't listen
to anyone who criticizes you for putting
your son on meds. #1 they don't know what
they are talking about. #2 they have not
lived with a child that has these
disorders #3 maybe they have lived with a
child who had behavior problems but were
fortunate to only have "allergies" that
were controlled by diet and homeopathic
remedies(which I am all for). But, they
don' t know what they are talking about!
This is real and real serious- some kids
need meds.! You are doing a good job
being a mom. My best advice to you is to
read (buy it b/c you will refer back to it
from time to time)
"the bipolar child" by demitri &
janice papolos. It is very helpful in
many ways; dealing with the child and
family, doctors, meds., insurance,
schools, etc. And all those people out
there that criticize you need to read it
too b/c they have no idea what they are
talking about! Good luck to you, your
son, your family and pets. God bless.
Ashleyefc
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ashleyefc
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 3
Posted: 05-21-06 12:01pm
ashleyefc
wrote:
hi! I'm new to this too.
My daughter just turned 14. She was
diagnosed adhd and bipolar about 1yr.
Ago. I didn't really have much too much
of a hard time with her til 10-11yrs.Old.
Don't listen to anyone who criticizes
you for putting your son on meds. #1
they don't know what they are talking
about. #2 they have not lived with a
child that has these disorders #3 maybe
they have lived with a child who had
behavior problems but were fortunate to
only have "allergies" that were controlled
by diet and homeopathic remedies(which I
am all for). But, they don' t know what
they are talking about! This is real
and real serious- some kids need meds.!
You are doing a good job being a mom.
My best advice to you is to read (buy it
b/c you will refer back to it from time to
time)
"the bipolar child" by demitri &
janice papolos. It is very helpful in
many ways; dealing with the child and
family, doctors, meds., insurance,
schools, etc. And all those people out
there that criticize you need to read it
too b/c they have no idea what they are
talking about! Good luck to you, your
son, your family and pets. God bless.
Ashleyefc
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M-K
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 20 Location: ,
Hello All. Posted: 05-26-06 00:10am
Thought I would update you on alex and see
how everyone else is doing. Well ale xis
going to graduate into 1st grade next year
he is very excited about it. Right now he
is on 4 different types of medication, his
adderal, clonidine, risperdal and his
lithium. We have been holding back on the
lithium the dose is 450 mg and his doctor
made it a liquid form but he really hasn't
needed it which i'm thankfull for. He
still has his tatrums but i've come to
learn threw watching him that these are
the typical 6 year old ones. Alot
different from the ones before, he is
learning how to deal with his anger issues
and don't lash out at anyone anymore. So
hes doing ok, have to admit though i'm
kinda worried about 1st grade. His
teacher for kindergarten was so
understanding of alexs needs I just hope
it will be the same in 1st grade. Well
untill I can get on again take care all
and hope to hear how everyone is doing.
M-k
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DSmith529
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 59
Posted: 05-26-06 09:57am
Anyone here had any experience
with/observing abilify?
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MamiClaudia
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Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 319 Location: Gastonia, NC.
Eek Posted: 06-01-06 17:47pm
I have been diagnosed with bipolar and
borderline and everything under the sun
when it comes to those things. I just
hope that your children are getting
thorough psychological evaluations and you
are just not taking the drs word for what
they have. It makes me so angry how young
children are just tossed threw the
psychiatry field and a lot of times drs
are only looking to make there own pockets
a little more stuffed. At 5 years old, I
am not doubting there isn't something
wrong that should be addressed with a dr,
but to have a young child on so many
medications makes me so nervous, also at 5
your personality is no where near being
developed to say they have a personality
disorder.... I hope everything gets
better. Unfortunately there are so many
mysteries to the human mind.
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thepages
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Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 1
9 Year Old Bipolar Posted: 06-09-06 01:39am
Hello. We am new to message boards but
not bipolar. We have a beautiful 9 year
old boy who was diagnosed in 2005. I
knew when he was about 3 that something
was there but like others I fought
medication and thought it was just
parental. I can completely relate to to
five year old episodes. I wish it was
caught then. We are now on our fourth
hospitalization. He went in 2 days ago
and as of tonight he was on unit
restriction and allowed only scrubs and
his bed. This is the worst it has been.
I also can relate to fighting the genes
of a father in prison. "j"'s bio-dad is
in prison and my husband and I are
determined not to let "j" go without the
help his bio-dad needed. It is a long
struggle to deal with a bipolar child but
we have learned so much in just the last
year.
I would like to close with a short bit.
We have been called unfit parents by
people who have never walked in our shoes,
we have been told by my sons school, to
"keep our home problems at home", we have
been told "put him in sports, that will
help" by social services, all that matters
is the child. If other people want to
dispay their ignorance out in public let
them. Just grin and remind them
christians don't judge others, so at least
they will be warm for eternity.
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gabby1964
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Georgia
Bi-polar Children Posted: 06-13-06 00:45am
Hi, I am bi-polar myself, diagnosed at the
age of 30. I have three children. 1
diagnosed bi-polar at the age of 14, she
passed away last year at the age of 21. I
also have a son who is now 19 who has been
diagnosed with everything from adhd to
bi-polar. I also have one daughter age 21
who has no mental problems at all. I feel
for you and your dilemma. I just want to
say that all the medications your Dr. Has
provided to your son at the age of 5 can
lead to many problems. Suicide
intentions.Drug problems and prescription
drug abuse. I speak of this from
experience. My son was put on depakote in
3rd grade it made him violently ill,
previous to that they had him on several
different meds, which never did work. My
son had 4 suicide attempts, the last one
he was in a coma for 7 days. They had me
sign over his organs. He was not expected
to make it. Thats from so many meds that
he was put on at a young age. Wrong
diagnosis. He now takes no medication and
is finally doing well. My daughter the
Dr. Had her on 12 medications because
nothing was working which led too
prescription addiction, heroin, alchahol
abuse. Then death from all of these meds
combined aslo have you been advised to the
liver problem that can occur from these
meds. My daughter had a liver operation
on her 21 st birthday. I know it is
difficult to get the right diagnosis. I
can also tell you that there is a 50/50
chance that your son may be bi-polar
because of his father. My point here is
that too many children are being diagnosed
wrong. Have you actually looked up the
signs of bi-polar. There may be a sleep
disorder as to why your son does not
sleep. My son used to say at the age of 6
I slept for 10 min. Aftedr a sleep test
it was found that he was not getting full
rhem sleep, which makes for a difficult
child. I know alot about bi-polar and the
diagnosis (i am an internet junky who for
a long time searched for that magic pill).
I am not saying that theres not a
possibility but bi-polar usually shows
itself in early teens and in my case the
30s. Just a warning to be carefull
because I have just given you my
experiences with meds too young.
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anttm04
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 121
Gsbby 1964 Posted: 06-19-06 00:55am
Hi gabby, first. Let me say how truly
sorry I am for the loss of your
daughter...I know there is nothing in the
world that could ease that grief...
I, too, do a lot of reading on the
internet with anything anyone in my famil
is diagnosed with or has a possiblilty of
having (as well as meds prescribed)...My
son (aged 8) was diagnosed with adhd and a
mood disorder when he was 5..I knew well
beforehand (by the time that he was 1)
that something wasn't right with him..I'm
just that way...I know many parents who
live in denial..I refuse to be that person
because both disorder run (heavily) in my
family and i've seen the results of both
as well...Anyway, I have 3 children..Ages
6, 8, and 10..As well as a 19 year old
step-daughter, so I have some experience
with "normal" kids...Trey was not "normal"
from birth....Not "bad" but nowhere near
"normal" and I knew it before he was a
year old...Screamed most of the day and
night til he was a year old (no signs or
symptoms of colic or anything else
physically wrong with him)....Violent
temper tantrums afterwards...Slept very
little (maybe, if we were lucky, 3 hours
in a night...Always)..Anyway, he was
"diagnosed" at the age of 4 with adhd and
with a mood disorder (nos), however, the
psychiatrist from day 1 has suggested
bipolar (due to the symptoms, as well as
the family history with such)..At the
moment she won't diagnose as bipolar
because it is a diagnosis that has
lifelong consequences....However, has
treated him as though he has bipolar and
it has done wonders for him!!!!!!!!!
Currently, my son takes 80 mg. Of
strattera and 2 mg. Of risperdal
daily..He had started out just on the
strattera..Then zyprexa was added....He
did well on that combination..But medicaid
(the program we have been on until
recently) discontinued paying for that..We
went off all meds for awhile and, at the
ages between 7 and 8, he threatened
suicide and drew pictures of someone
shooting him to death, etc..After about a
year, we were able to get back on medicaid
and at first, they paid for seroquel
(which worked equally well with him) but
they dicontinued that, as well...For
awhile he was only able to take the
strattera, and because he couldn['[t
sleep, (and because medicaid wouldn't
allow the meds he needed), she also
prescribed him trazadone....The tantrums
came back, the suicide threats came
back..He was having screaming (at the top
of his lungs) tantrums that lasted 2 hours
or more...Over next to nothing....Finally,
we were able to be prescribed risperdal
and he has done wonderfully since.....He
is now the child he is "inside"...Very
loving, affectionate, able to reason and
compromise...Able to make friends...He
doesn't "want to die" anymore...We still
have problems...Children who have not been
able to learn how to control themselves
because of a "disability" take a bit of
time once all is well...But he is much
more loving both of himslef and of
others,....I know there is a risk with the
meds and that concerns me almost daily,
however, the risk of not having the meds
is also great..My uncle (also bipolar)
ended his life several years ago because
he could no longer handle the pain of
being alive...So, I have done whatever
possible to ensure that my child is okay
(for the moment), with hopes that he'll be
okay in the future..Hope all goes well
with you and your family..Sorry so ling,
just needed to talk...Thanks for
listening...Tracy
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gabby1964
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Georgia
Posted: 06-19-06 06:45am
Tracy
anytime you want to talk you can e-mail
me. I will listen. I can sympathize with
you. My son now 19 went through all the
things you talk about. In school starting
with kindergarten he was always pushing
the other children and fighting. I was
always being called to the school. My son
has a iq of 172. They would not move him
ahead because of the way he acted. He
tested in 12th grade to college lvls. He
threatend to kill other children. At the
age of nine he was hospitalized and after
that was put in out patient services. He
was age nine. If it wernt for the help of
a loving teacher I dont think we would
have ever made it through. She came to
the hospital and offered encourging words
and learned to work with my son, also the
school phsycologist came and helped. They
developed a plan that whenever my son felt
these urges coming on he had a siignal for
the teacher and then was aloud to go to
the phsycologists room to have (me) time.
Ito this day praise them. My son too this
day say they were his favorite teachers.
My son was also put on trazadone risperdal
strattera depakote depakene another one
that starts with a d but cant remember at
this time. (my dr has changed all my meds
last week and has put me in a manic phase
so my mind is sorta outa whack at this
time) the bad with bi-polar) my son is
lucky at this time that he needs no
medication the bad thing is he talks
faster then u can listen and he expects
you to catch every word he says. I know
he will need it soon enough again. I wish
you luck with your son. Im very sorry if
this all sounds kinda in circles. Like I
said my dr has messed with my medication
and im in a mania stage.
Gabby (thats how I got my name-fast
talking and making no sence) (lol) if u
dont have a little humor in it you can get
very down about it
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clasylady
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 6 Location: ontario
Re Meds Posted: 08-21-06 08:58am
Ok ok now I dont think it if fair to
attack someone who is just looking for
some help!! I my self know a few kids
with it and I have told them all that the
best thing for this bipolar disorder is to
get rid of all the cleaning prouduct out
of your house and I mean everything even
shampoo's and laudry soap. Now I know
this souds crazy but I have seen that it
dose work. All these prouduct have so
many chemicals in then its out of this
worl. You do need to start using all
naturalprouducts.
Please read this.
Dear child care
taker
lets stop poisoning
our children !!
Did you know:
1) if chlorine bleach is used is used in
an industrial setting, worker are required
to wear protective clothing , chemical
goggles and full face shields?
2) that lysol contains phenols and
dioxins ( agent orange)
3) that formula 409 is considered a
leagal pesticide ?
4) that childhood cancers are up 20% in
the last 2 decades,
cancer has been linked to exposure to
formaldehyde ,
phenol, benzene, toluene and
xylene—all found in house hold
cleaners?
5) chemicals in the home can cause
problems with and /or asthma, eczema and
add/adha?
Hello
I am a work at home mom and while
doing some research discovered recently
just how many everyday toxins and
carcinogens that were present in our own
homes. After learning this, I became
part of four point group to educate
parents
and others who care for our children ,
about safer cleaning alternatives to
fight
bacterial contaminations instead of the
harsh chemicals. I am sure you are
following strict
regulations for keeping bacterial
contaminations in check at your facility.
How ever , there are options to choose a
safer alternatives that are actually
more cost –effective , not to metion
environmentally safe as the active
ingredients is a natural anti-parasitic
,anti-infectious,, anti-iviral,
anti-fungal, and has been llicensed by
the fda since 1987 as the strongest
anti-microbial available and is effective
against 60 strains of antibiotic
–resistant bacterium!. It would be a
privilege and my pleasure to help you and
you facility to learn how you can take
positive steps to create a safer
environment for the children to care for.
You my likewise, want to share this
information with your clients. I am not
a sales person but you could call me to
get more information or could give you
some site to check out further for your
self. I do not sell products I just
work for a great wellness company. I
would be glad to help you create a much
safer facility and environment for you.
We are just helping one famialy at a
time.
Please feel free to contact me by either
edit
trust me these prouducts do work and not
just for bipolar but getting rid of theses
thing helps in so many other problem.
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M-K
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 20 Location: ,
Hello All, Posted: 09-10-06 22:51pm
Hello thought I would update you on alex,
he has started first grade his teacher
don't really seem concerned about his
bio-polar don't know if thats scary or
just that she won't allow that to keep him
from doing anything. He is seeing his
doctor every six months and his meds have
stayed the same. He is ok his lithium
has him taking naps after school but thats
ok alot easier to deal with then the
fighting and we still get those on
occasion but not as long or violent. Ok
well all keep in touch sorry I know its
been awhile for me i'm working 6 nights a
week and trying to keep up with everything
I tend to forget some. Ohh on one note I
tried to date a guy ohh my talk about
funny his doctor told me that I would be
messing up alexs progress if I continued
to date, one more thing I guess I should
have thought about. Ok well keep in
touch all.
M-k
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pinkone63
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 23 Location: santa clarita
Bi Polor Posted: 09-11-06 01:27am
Try god...He is the great physican...He
will help you son if u give him a
chance...He is bigger then the problem
your facing...Dont rely on drugs , water,
coolaid, medicine. Look to god :)
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anttm04
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 121
Trey Update Posted: 11-30-06 18:19pm
Hi there...Just thought i'd update on
trey..He had been off meds completely for
2 months due to lack of insurance
coverage..We tried for a while to pay for
the meds ourselves as we didn't want him
to have to go through all that he had
before and start over, but it came down to
meds for trey or somewhere for us to
live..Anyway, we are on a new insurance
now and he had his first psychiatric
appointment today...The doctor has now
officially diagnosed him with bipolar and
he is back on meds, so hopefully things
will get better for him soon...
M-k, if you still come on every now and
then, I hope you and alex are doing well..
You couldn't possibly be a doctor if you
don't believe 5 year olds can have
bipolar. I have a best friend with a son
who is now 11 and was diagnosed with
bipolar at 5. I can tell you from what I
have witnessed from my friend, is that
what she goes through is just terrible.
In addition her son has boarderline
personality disorder and add. He cusses
and abuses animals on top of it all.
It’s gotten to the point that they do
not leave their home with him. I feel
very sorry for him and my friend. He’s
medicated, although I am not sure what he
takes. All I know is that I would never
want to be in her shoes, and when I get
depressed about my ex fiancée who was
bipolar, I just think about my friends
son, and realize if we had gotten married
and had children, that I may have had a
child with this illness. Honestly I
don’t think I could of handled it.
putting any child on brain
chemical changing medications
(especially that young) shows you are not
a mother fit to make decisions for the
basic health of her son. Sorry, its a
slap in the face, but horrible.
He'll be messed up forever.
Its not bipolar, its spoiled.
what a horrible thing to say. This isn't
the scientology forum. Get lost buddy.
Both of you are doing the right thing for
your children. I know what it is like to
be around someone that is bipolar and not
taking their medication or taking the
wrong doses. As I mentioned above my
best friend has a child that is bipolar
and he is frightening on the medication.
I can't image what he is like off of it,
but I would assume he would be a danger to
himself and others.
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ladylee70
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Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 1912 Location: Boise, Idaho,
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Posted: 12-03-06 01:06am
I work in schools and primarily work with
children who have behavior or learning
disabilities. You will always get
extremely judgmental people but they are
not in you or your child's shoes. It is
so hard to ignore people and not take
things personally, but please get a
thick-skin (maybe you already do, don't
know). It is so difficult as a parent to
make the decision on whether or not to
medicate a child. I often see situations
in the school setting where parents refuse
to medicate their children. I can
understand this decision as well. I do
believe that parents and doctors need to
look at all variables such as diet and
possible sleep disorder. I do believe
that parents should go in to the child's
classroom and observe and ask other
professionals to observe as well. After
everything has been exhausted, there need
to come a time where parents say, "ok, if
I don't seek out other options my son or
daughter's education and social/emotional
wellbeing will suffer." most parents who
decide on medication, don't decide on this
lightly. The parents know when something
is completely wrong. If you are being
judgmental, perhaps you have never lived
one day in one of these parents shoes or
you have a child like that but either are
in denial or have had an extremely bad
experience with doctors and/or medication
so you are overgeneralizing the one or a
few experiences to be the experiences
everyone will experience. Sorry about my
rampage but I work with these children and
there extremely loving parents. Most of
these parents do try many options first.
They go through countless hours of crying,
blaming themselves, their genetics,
perhaps thinking they did somethings wrong
- it's so horrible to see as these are
very loving people. Their children are
loving but are going through such a
difficult time!!
People can disagree with me and that's
fine. I am going off of my own knowlege
and a wide variety of experiences. I am
not a person who believes in medicating
the world at all but I have seen kids who
truly need it. "bipolar kids" is a
relatively new thing to be dx. About 8
years ago, perhaps even sooner,
professionals refused to dx a person with
bipolar unless the kids were in their mid
teens. Often times, these kids are
initially dx with adhd and those meds can
have such a negative impact if they are
bipolar. Most do need a mood stabilizer
first. Yes it's difficult to know what
may happen in the future to their brain
chemistry because I don't think there are
longitudinal studies with some of these
meds, but there is information on what
"can" happen if some of these kids don't
get the help they need.
I just want to give all you parents out
their who is experiencing this a big hug!
It is so difficult out there but you are
not alone. There are many parents out
their experiencing the same thing. A
great percentage of these parents feel so
alone. The kids also feel alone or at
least you can semi-tell in their actions.
It's alright to disagree with the
medication issue, but please be sensitive.
For one thing, you are not the doctor.
You may believe that doctors just want to
medicate but realize that the doctors put
their reputation and jobs on the line as
well. Most don't dx kids lightly. On
the contrary, some doctors want a lot of
information: behavior rating scales,
psych reports, narrative reports from
school staff, previous progress reports,
etc. From the schools before they will
even consider looking at the child. Then
they usually want even more data after
they get the initial data.
Down below is the statement, "do not delay
seeking or disregard medical advice
written on this site." you parents know
what you believe, you know your child(ren)
and you know your doctor. Always listen
to your gut. There is not some manual
that tells us whether or not we are doing
the right thing, but I believe in our
internal voice as parents. Sure, we all
mess up here and there with various things
but we also are right with others. I
thank you for being there for your kids
and being loving!! So many parents are
not. For all of you debaters, I am not
saying that the parents who medicate are
loving. The parents who write on here
seem loving, ones who refuse to medicate
and ones who choose to - both groups.
Good luck and god bless,
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Psychdoc
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 6 Location: Indiana
Bi-polar Children Posted: 12-09-06 15:39pm
First and foremost, being a parent of a
bi-polar child is perhaps one of the
toughest things to do. Just as you think
you are now officially at the edge of
insanity, the cycle changes and the child
becomes an angel.
I am a parent of a rapid cycling bi-polar
child and being a psychologist doesn't
make things any easier. Here are a few
pointers that may help in making things a
little easier.
Three primary things that your child needs
to be checked for.
1. Inner ear canal infection that has
gone undetected.
2.Thyroid function test to make sure it's
normal
3. Clean the child of pinworms (you can
buy over the counter meds)
if these three conditions are unchecked,
they display the exact classic symptoms of
a bi-polar or adhd child.
If indeed it is one of the three, then
kneel down and thank your stars because
they are easily treatable and the changes
are instantaneous.
As for medications, children don't respond
very well to seroquel, zyprexa and the
likes don't do very well on most children,
there is a combination out there that
works very well with kids.
Risperdal and lithium carbonate for
bipolar
dexedrine (dextroamphetamine) for
hyperactivity adhd
this combination works well with kids,
however the side effect of risperdal is
weight gain. As soon as you see that
start to happen, see your psychiatrist and
either get the dose of dexedrine increased
to level the eating or perhaps get him/her
to reduce risperdal and add a minimum dose
of abilify.
If you want to control the daytime mood
swings make sure the child sleeps well at
night. The way to control this is a
single benedryl or a combination of one
benedryl and melatonin. With this the
child may need to sleep from 8 to 8 but a
rested bi-polar child is really a very
good child.
Now another thing that we as parents can
do, is go to www.Omegabrite.Com
and order omegabrite caps. This is a
purified potent dose of omega 3 that makes
a great difference in the child's behavior
be it bi-polar, add, or adhd.
90% of omegabrite is purchased by harvard
medical school for their study in bi-polar
and adhd. The results are astounding.
Try it it never hurts.
As for the oh so famous Dr. Cleaning
spirits or whatever his/her name is,
my thinking is that this is one of them
fanatics who refuse to believe that colon
cleansing is the same as take a good dump.
sorry for being so crass, but people like
it should not be allowed to talk let alone
give advice.
.... And now that I have vented, and
sounded like a bedazzeled swamp monster
while doing so, to you all parents of
bi-polar children hang on in there and may
the lord make you a part of what he
chooses to bless everyday.
If you have any questions that I can help
with please let me know.
Good luck and god bless.
