liberals are so loud,
annoying and screechy because they don't
have power, not because they do.
thank god!!!!
eiri
wrote:
actually, my one friend came out as
lesbian; she'd never had a relationship,
but she informed her local catholic priest
for whatever reason; or perhaps her
parents informed him. Either way, she
received a letter a week later saying that
she had been excommunicated.
you can't be excommunicated from the
catholic church because you are
homosexual. What a load of .B.S. Eiri
in my parish we even have a gay ministry,
run by and made for gays and
lesbians.
i'm just saying what happened to a real
person. What are they, all abstinant?
They can never have sex, according to what
you've said, or they'll be kicked out.
Anything else about the rest of what I
wrote?
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Posted: 02-06-06 00:02am
eiri
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
liberals are so loud,
annoying and screechy because they don't
have power, not because they do.
thank god!!!!
eiri
wrote:
actually, my one friend came out as
lesbian; she'd never had a relationship,
but she informed her local catholic priest
for whatever reason; or perhaps her
parents informed him. Either way, she
received a letter a week later saying that
she had been excommunicated.
you can't be excommunicated from the
catholic church because you are
homosexual. What a load of .B.S.
Eiri in my parish we even have a gay
ministry, run by and made for gays and
lesbians.
i'm just saying what happened to a real
person. What are they, all abstinant?
They can never have sex, according to what
you've said, or they'll be kicked out.
Anything else about the rest of what I
wrote?
i don't think they are abstinent but to be
honest with you I am personally curious to
know more details how that ministry works.
It's ministry of support and welcome to
the faith community. Nobody is kicked
from the church eiri, people abandon the
church themselves. The church is always
open to receive whoever comes no matter
what they had done.
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Posted: 02-06-06 00:58am
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
liberals are so loud,
annoying and screechy because they don't
have power, not because they do.
thank god!!!!
eiri
wrote:
actually, my one friend came out as
lesbian; she'd never had a relationship,
but she informed her local catholic priest
for whatever reason; or perhaps her
parents informed him. Either way, she
received a letter a week later saying that
she had been excommunicated.
you can't be excommunicated from the
catholic church because you are
homosexual. What a load of .B.S.
Eiri in my parish we even have a gay
ministry, run by and made for gays and
lesbians.
i'm just saying what happened to a real
person. What are they, all abstinant?
They can never have sex, according to
what you've said, or they'll be kicked
out.
Anything else about the rest of what I
wrote?
i don't think they are abstinent but to be
honest with you I am personally curious to
know more details how that ministry works.
It's ministry of support and welcome to
the faith community. Nobody is kicked
from the church eiri, people abandon the
church themselves. The church is always
open to receive whoever comes no matter
what they had
done.
well someone was excommunicated.
My friend's name isn't "nobody". That's
not really the point though... This isn't
about religion, it's about abortion!
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Posted: 02-06-06 23:17pm
eiri
wrote:
well, because I very much love my
boyfriend. If he asked me to marry him
right now, I would say yes; I am at that
point in my relationship with him. He
is pro-choice as well. My mother is
pro-life for herself, and very reluctantly
pro-choice for others. She has said
that if I ever get pregnant she would not
want me to abort because she was basically
forced to do so when she was only 20 years
old, by my grandmother. She deeply
regrets the desicion, and would not want
me to go through the same potential
emotional pain. She says that she would
also not want me to give it up for
adoption because she couldn't stand to see
the child being given away; so she would
want to adopt it. That, I feel, is very
unfair to her. She's in her late
forties, and she's already raised two
kids; she does not need to be caring for
her grandchild! As for my father, he is
very pro-choice.
I am only 21, I am in college, and I am
not ready for a child. If I became
pregnant, I would have deep talks with all
of these important people. The desicion
would in the end be mine, but their
feelings would mean a lot to me. If my
boyfriend was for some reason slightly
against me aborting our child, and was
willing to marry me and help raise it,
then I would be willing do consider doing
so, because we could make it, together.
There are so many things that would factor
into it, that I can't sit her and say "i
would abort my unwanted baby". I would
want to find the best solution for all
involved; and I wouldn't want to loose my
mother's loe over it. But if she was
the only one against it, and my boyfriend
and my father were willing to help me get
the abortion, and I wanted it, then i'd go
through with it.
I also think that if I did become
pregnant, whether or not I abort i'd want
to marry my boyfriend. It would just
seem like the right time to do so, just in
case it happens again I won't have as much
of a problem keeping it.
It is a potntial life; its potential
giggling, red-headed face does occour to
me. Our children would be beautiful,
all with long noses, pale skin, freckles,
and vibrant red hair. Poster children
for skin cancer! I'd always soak them
in suntan lotion xd like i've had to do to
myself since day one. So, for me, it
would be a hard desicon, weighing the
current situation at the time, and all of
the factors.
oh well eiri I needed more time to get to
this one. I'm having a spammer on my
website now that is making me work on my
site.
Eiri that is nice to hear you have a
supportive mom. I commend you in the
sense that you have evaluated the
possibilities of a pregnancy, since that
is a possibility for anyone who have a
sexual relationship with someone. I see
you from a different perspective because
when I was your age in college the idea of
having sex with a man did not crossed my
mind. I was a total saint back then 0:).
I was terrified of being pregnant with
reason. In fact I was a virgin until my
now 30's. Talk about strong will. And
let me tell you that I came to wonder if I
had been stupid for waiting that long when
I receive the news from my gyn that I did
contracted a std from my very first
attempt. Hpv-cin I and now I have to get
pap smears more than once a year for who
knows how many years if not surgery. I'm
not bothered by it because i'm older but I
tell you I wouldn't have liked to deal
with this from your age. I really can't
understand why it is so hard to wait. I
am not saying any of this in a debate way,
this is just a friendly opinion. :) I
sincerely hope you do marry this man
because a breakup after you have had sex
makes it a lot worse. How long you being
together with him? Are you sure he is
the one?
That was cute to hear you say about how
your possible children will look like. I
don't think you would ever consider
abortion after reading that. Don't worry
about your mom, heck my parents are in the
60's and for sure they will be my source
for child care services. I don't know
how my children would look like with my
current bf. My bf is red haired. But
his brother is blond and his sister is
brunette. Since i'm of strong brunette
side my guess is that the children would
be of pale skin and brown hair but who
knows! :)
i think i'm done debating with you eiri.
You were a good debator and i'm glad that
I was able to share with you my christian
views and thoughts on abortion.
Greetings from raleigh ;-)
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Posted: 02-06-06 23:31pm
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
well, because I very much love my
boyfriend. If he asked me to marry him
right now, I would say yes; I am at that
point in my relationship with him. He
is pro-choice as well. My mother is
pro-life for herself, and very reluctantly
pro-choice for others. She has said
that if I ever get pregnant she would not
want me to abort because she was basically
forced to do so when she was only 20 years
old, by my grandmother. She deeply
regrets the desicion, and would not want
me to go through the same potential
emotional pain. She says that she
would also not want me to give it up for
adoption because she couldn't stand to see
the child being given away; so she would
want to adopt it. That, I feel, is
very unfair to her. She's in her late
forties, and she's already raised two
kids; she does not need to be caring for
her grandchild! As for my father, he
is very pro-choice.
I am only 21, I am in college, and I am
not ready for a child. If I became
pregnant, I would have deep talks with all
of these important people. The
desicion would in the end be mine, but
their feelings would mean a lot to me.
If my boyfriend was for some reason
slightly against me aborting our child,
and was willing to marry me and help raise
it, then I would be willing do consider
doing so, because we could make it,
together.
There are so many things that would factor
into it, that I can't sit her and say "i
would abort my unwanted baby". I would
want to find the best solution for all
involved; and I wouldn't want to loose my
mother's loe over it. But if she was
the only one against it, and my boyfriend
and my father were willing to help me get
the abortion, and I wanted it, then i'd go
through with it.
I also think that if I did become
pregnant, whether or not I abort i'd want
to marry my boyfriend. It would just
seem like the right time to do so, just in
case it happens again I won't have as much
of a problem keeping it.
It is a potntial life; its potential
giggling, red-headed face does occour to
me. Our children would be beautiful,
all with long noses, pale skin, freckles,
and vibrant red hair. Poster children
for skin cancer! I'd always soak them
in suntan lotion xd like i've had to do to
myself since day one. So, for me, it
would be a hard desicon, weighing the
current situation at the time, and all of
the factors.
oh well eiri I needed more time to get to
this one. I'm having a spammer on my
website now that is making me work on my
site.
Eiri that is nice to hear you have a
supportive mom. I commend you in the
sense that you have evaluated the
possibilities of a pregnancy, since that
is a possibility for anyone who have a
sexual relationship with someone. I see
you from a different perspective because
when I was your age in college the idea of
having sex with a man did not crossed my
mind. I was a total saint back then
0:). I was terrified of being pregnant
with reason. In fact I was a virgin
until my now 30's. Talk about strong
will. And let me tell you that I came
to wonder if I had been stupid for waiting
that long when I receive the news from my
gyn that I did contracted a std from my
very first attempt. Hpv-cin I and now I
have to get pap smears more than once a
year for who knows how many years if not
surgery. I'm not bothered by it because
i'm older but I tell you I wouldn't have
liked to deal with this from your age.
I really can't understand why it is so
hard to wait. I am not saying any of
this in a debate way, this is just a
friendly opinion. :) I sincerely hope
you do marry this man because a breakup
after you have had sex makes it a lot
worse. How long you being together with
him? Are you sure he is the one?
That was cute to hear you say about how
your possible children will look like.
I don't think you would ever consider
abortion after reading that. Don't
worry about your mom, heck my parents are
in the 60's and for sure they will be my
source for child care services. I don't
know how my children would look like with
my current bf. My bf is red haired.
But his brother is blond and his sister is
brunette. Since i'm of strong brunette
side my guess is that the children would
be of pale skin and brown hair but who
knows! :)
i think i'm done debating with you eiri.
You were a good debator and i'm glad that
I was able to share with you my christian
views and thoughts on abortion.
Greetings from raleigh
;-)
sorry to hear about the spammer! I hate
that kind of stuff.
I've been with my boyfriend going on two
years in april... And it doesn't even
feel like that long! I really do feel
that he is a good match for me (not sure
if I believe in "the one" theory), and i'm
so grateful I found him so soon.
I was really "pure" in middle school and
even highschool; I thought that I would
never have sex until marriage; but with my
current boyfriend; it was just so perfect
and felt right. He's really only the
second serious boyfriend i've ever had.
