I have been diagnosed with prediabetes, (
I have had the gtt 205 after 1 hr. 154 2
hr, 79 3 hr) but I have been having
hypoglycemia symptoms. I do not have
blood sugar drops below 79 but have tested
my blood as follows: fasting morning
92-114, 30 minutes after eating 180-190
(breakfast is oatmeal and a protein
drink), 30 minutes after this my blood
sugar has dropped to 92-104, an 80-100
drop, and within 30 more minutes I am
having symptoms of stingy/tired eyes,
agitation, anxiousness, foggy feelings,
fatigue etc. This is usually satisfied
by eating but sometimes it takes longer to
be relieved if I have waited too long to
eat or have had some physical or mental
stress but does go away. This roller
coaster continues this way throughout the
day every 1 1/2-2 hrs. I eat only low
carb foods and plenty of protein which I
thought would stop these episodes but it
has not. My doctors, I have been to 4
now, can't seem to link anything to this
phenomenom. They have tested for adrenal
tumors, thyroid and other blood work with
no conclusions. One doctor suggested
anxiety but I have a hard time believing
my mind and body are on a time clock of
symptoms every 1 1/2 - 2 hours. Has
anyone experienced this and had a
diagnosis? I have read that there are
other types of hypoglycemia has anyone had
any documentation of this and what can you
do?
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Stan
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Posted: 01-25-06 18:14pm
Yes, there are five types. Functional
or fasting, which is when you have a low
because you don't eat enough, easily
resolved through eating regularly. Then
there's reactive, where the body reacts to
what you put in it. Followed by
biological, which is rare, but the
pancreas secretes too much insulin.
You'd know very early on if you had this.
The other type I forget the title for,
but it's caused by tumors on the pancreas.
Also rare. This would be a
continuous sensation not resolved by
eating. You most likely have reactive,
basically your body adapts to you eating
too much sugar/simple carbohydrates over
time and sets into action an
overproduction of insulin. You probably
had symptoms of it before you had full
blown anxiousness and such, but maybe
didn't realize it. Think back.
Unexplained fainting spells, need to take
constant naps, etc. You'd be surprised
if you think back. If you go to any
doctor and they claim you have anxiety,
immediately stop seeing them and find
another. It's possible to search you
area for a doctor who possible specializes
or is at least familiar with hypoglycemia.
The diet thing is really tough because
everyone is different. High protein low
carbohydrate works usually all the time,
but you have to find the level proper for
you. You should try to only get about
60-100g of carbohydrates per day. Also,
regular meals are highly recommended,
starting at one every two hours.
Remember, keep meals small. Basically,
separate what you would eat for three to
four meals into 6-8 meals. You may be
able to go 2 1/2 hours without eating or
even 3 at first, find what works for you.
Avoid grains for now and all types of
white bread products. Eat nothing
processed and try to have only organic
food if possible. Do not drink anything
with caffeine or artificial sweeteners
(eat either). Try to eat around 100g of
protein per day, perhaps more, making
certain to eat a lot of fat with it. I,
for example, currently have one tablespoon
of olive oil with every meal, equally out
to around 120g of fat per day with
everything else. You won't gain weight,
trust me, the increased fat is to slow
down digestion and to give you slower
sugar rises. For fruit, eat only
berries at first, strawberries,
blackberries, raspberries and blueberries.
A rotation diet is also recommended.
Basically, you don't eat the same thing
for four days and rotate every four days.
This way you can easily tell which foods
seem to cause more of a reaction than
others. Drink a lot of water and no
juice whatsoever. Avoid beans. Let
me know if you have any questions. It's
good to count carbohydrates, you'd be
surprised how much there is in certain
foods. About the tests. The importance
for hypoglycemia is not always how far the
sugar drops, but how far how fast. Yours
dropped quickly, so it's pretty obvious
you have it.
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showman
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Thanks For the Reply Posted: 01-25-06 23:37pm
Thanks for the reply. I know I have had
this for years but wasn't diagnosed. I
was always told it was anxiety. I am not
saying it hasn't caused anxiety, it has.
Since I thought it was anxiety I have been
taking supplements such as sam e, 5htp,
and gaba. I did not want to take the
prescription stuff. I hope to stop
taking these when I get this figured out.
I have tried to watch what I eat and I
eat 6-8 times per day as you also
suggested. I only eat stone ground or
whole grains, fruits, vegetables and
proteins. I do eat low carb protein bars
because it is easier to manage. I do eat
splenda, is this bad? It seems highly
recommended. It has been very difficult
to find a doctor who understands what I
have been going through. I have
considered a nutritionist but I am not
sure they would understand this either.
Sometimes my symptoms are quite abnormal
when I 2 hrs. Is up. I have trouble
processing what I say and make strange
noises and I am quite jumpy. My kids say
"dad is putting on his show." they find
it quite humorous. I am wondering where
you found the info about the diet. You
brought up some things I have not read on
the net. One last thing, wht is
"biological" hypoglycemia?
Thanks
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Stan
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Posted: 01-26-06 08:40am
It's not anxiety, and it doesn't "cause"
it per say. Here's where the anxiety
comes from. When the sugar starts to
drop too low, the brain panics because
it's only source of fuel is glucose. It
can use ketones, but it takes awhile for
this to kick in and you'll only feel
sluggish and such. So, when the brain
sense the drop, it causes a rush of
adrenalin because it wants to get you to
eat. Of course, if you're not aware of
it, it may seem like anxiety because if
you think about something that upsets you,
it will, due to the hormones flying about.
Also, after awhile, the brain starts to
shut parts of itself off intermittently to
keep everything stable. It has to keep
the most important features running, so
something like the neocortex, which is
primarily for social skills, is not
entirely necessary, so it diverts the
sugar from there and you can get
depressed, feel violent, have impulsive
thoughts, you name it. Do not eat low
carb protein bars, I do not suggest them.
There are probably a ton of bad additives
in there that your body has to work to get
out of the system, thus causing more
trouble for you. You can get all the
protein you need from one single thing, an
egg. If you want a good snack, have some
hardboiled eggs handy. Splenda is
terrible. "made from sugar" is a bunch
of crap. There was a good article about
this in discover magazine several months
ago. Basically, to make splenda they
have to replace a sugar molecule with one
of chlorine. Of course, it's a very
minute amount, but who wants to eat
chlorine? Finding a doctor is hard. My
family doctor back where my parents live
is the only one I go to. He's familiar
with my history and hypoglycemia so I
couldn't be luckier. I don't suggest a
nutritionist because they usually don't
accept insurance and really only can give
you what you probably already know.
However, if you feel you're not getting a
grasp of what you need to do, they can
help and are usually pretty good at doing
it i've heard, though i've never had to
see one. Expect to go through phases,
you won't get better all at once. First,
it made it terribly worse, unless you've
already passed this. Second, you'll
suddenly feel great one day and then will
experience sometimes violent mood/mental
changes for a few weeks (up to 5 or 6,
maybe more for some people depending on
what they ate before the new diet).
Then, they slowly start to get less and
less intense, and eventually you even out,
but yet don't feel totally well. You
might get odd thoughts or sensations, but
they don't cause the same problems and
don't seem to bother you at all anymore.
This is the third stage. After a few
more weeks, you should be back to normal
and then you can attempt to adjust the
diet in terms of what you eat and how many
times you eat. I've found the info
through tons of different sites and books.
The best one I can recommend is
"hypoglycemia: the disease your doctor
won't treat." excellent read and tons of
good info. Biological is just what I
call it I guess, i've heard some people
inherit it and just have a pancreas that
naturally secretes insulin too much, not
in reaction to what they have eaten.
It's very rare though.
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showman
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Been Helpful Posted: 01-26-06 21:04pm
It has been helpful just having someone
who understands and believes what I have
been going through. Thanks. I changed
my diet probably 9-10 months ago and have
experienced worse symptoms since then.
It is likely because the condition itself
has gotten worse. I may not have
mentioned but I am taking a supplement
that has gymnema and other herbs. It has
certainly lowered my peak levels but I
still have the symptomatic problems as
noted previously. I will get the book
mentioned and let you know what I am still
doing wrong. I hate to give up the low
carb bars because they are so convenient.
Hopefully I can find convenient
alternatives. Thanks again
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Stan
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Posted: 01-26-06 22:07pm
There are plenty of alternatives. You
may find it easier, though it might not
sound like it at first, to make your meals
the night prior, put them in the fridge,
and carry around a bag with meals in it
for you. That's what I do. Or put
them in a cooler in the car or something.
Let me know what you eat from day to day
and i'll tell you what to fix. Please
list ingredients of the protein bars or
what not and the herbs you have been
taking.