Question....I have been following this
story as well and I must be
honest...Sounds a little strange, but to
each his own....My question is has any
doctors actually done a physical
examination and felt around your abdomen?
I would think that at almost 31
weeks....Something could be felt if 2
babies are in there....I could be wrong
but sounds logical if you are feeling the
intense pain and pressure you describe
then they must have some size to them. I
wish you luck with whatever way this works
out, may it be a true blessing or a
physical/ mental issue....And no I don't
mean that in a bad way, i'm not at all
trying to bash or be mean just curious as
to why nothing material has turned up to
prove your situation. And yes I am also
a firm believer in jesus and his many
blessings.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 01-26-06 19:02pm
fatfamily02
wrote:
why cant you all just drop--it I dont care
if you believe. Just for one day
may my .God and savior allow you to feel
what I feel. For one day--you could
not deny it either. I have cussed
no one so "thou shalt not bear false
witness" its a commandment. This
has nothing to do with attention, and
selfishness--you might wanna watch your
tongue--cuz god will judge you in the manner
you judge someone else. my care
for others and lack of selfishness--is not
in question here, but by judgeing yours
might just well be. "i am selfish
because I am not listening to the "devils"
words about me, and I choose not to
believe them." because I dont believe
you. Good one. "whose
report will you believe, I shall believe
the report of the .Lord?" I truly believe
that all of you who hunger so much to get
me to admit that .God did not do what he
promised me, and believe what the .Dr's
say--since I trust them so
much--are the ones who are
pathetic. You expect me to believe
you and your words, believe the .Dr's,
who have
proved themselves wrong to me more than
right, and what the "devil" is
saying about me---over what .God told me,
and what .God promised me.
i would be asking myself--all of you--why
it is so important to you to prove me
wrong, and why it is so important to get
me to admit or accept the fact that I am
crazy??? I am not crazy, and even if
I have made a mistake, it still dont make
me crazy. But there is no way to
deny what I am experiencing. What I
feel in my body, and the pains I endure
thru this, not counting all the emotional
pain I have endured from non caring,
self-seeking individuals who know more
than I do about my own body. You
will all know the truth soon!!! I
dont think I can physically go much
farther--so I know .God has my back and
something will be happening really soon.
So you will see---i have nothing more
to say or add to this. believe if you
want---dont believe if you are inclined to
do so, but please quit bashing me--and
then saying "i dont mean to be mean, or im
not trying to hurt anyone" because you
certainly are trying to hurt me and you
know it.
for ----lsipes--- here are some links
proving abdominal pregnancy does happen,
and it is possible to carry to term.
Oh thanks for that last line...I was
starting to get a little offended......I
am not trying to get you to say you are
crazy....I am really honestly intrigued by
this whole situation and am anxious to see
the ending. I am 100 percent serious
about my question....Do you feel like the
babies are large enough to physically feel
from the exterior? Has a dr ever tried
to do a physical exam to feel for any
strange out of place things in your
abdomen?
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lsipes
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 325
Posted: 01-26-06 23:27pm
Quote:
for ----lsipes---
here are some links proving abdominal
pregnancy does happen, and it is possible
to carry to term.
after posting what I did, I did my own
research. I don't like to be uneducated
in what i'm talking about. I didn't
click your links because my computer sucks
and I already have 3 windows open, but I
will go back and look at another time.
I'm under the impression that it would be
virtually impossible to carry to term and
not suffer severe damage to your vital
internal organs, or death. And how can
they not see them? That baffles me.
I'm not saying you're lying. It's just
fascinating if this is true.
(i'm trying to stay as neutral as possible
here and not accuse anyone of anything,
just so yall know. :d )
The doctors she is going to have to be
literally retarded if they can't hear a
heartbeat or see them by ultrasound, which
gives me the impression that she is
lying.
I've never met a doc that stupid, and I
don't think she has either, I think they
really cant find anything and I think you
really do have something wrong with your
head, or your trying to make yourself
believe something that's not true.
I'm not bashing you (at the moment) but
this crap is getting really old, I think
everyone should shut up about it until she
has proof that she indeed is pregnant,
until I see the proof i'll continue to
believe what I already do.
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lsipes
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 325
Posted: 01-26-06 23:52pm
In a weird kind of way, I admire her
faith.
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diamondsz
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 3333 Location: , Candyland-Canada
Thanks: 98
Thanked:159
Posted: 01-27-06 09:09am
Joanna they would have picked up the fetus
by now especially by u/s and im going to
give proof right now
here is my u/s pics at 19 weeks and 24
because I was having complications but the
baby was so clear and it would be the same
for abdmonial pregnancy because u/s is
based on sound. What an ultrasound does
is it sends sound waves and when these
sound waves get something solid they are
returned with information (like bats!!!)
what you need to understand is that if the
u/s tech didnt see anything then their is
nothing cause they can pick up a fetus as
early as a few days after implantation.
Even if it is in abdmonial pregnany it can
be picked up because the fetus still
grows the same as a normal fetus within
the uterus.
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tigresacanela24
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 5261 Location: Treat your children well, eventually they'll choose your nursing home.
Posted: 01-27-06 10:41am
That last u/s pic was adorable!!
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diamondsz
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Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 3333 Location: , Candyland-Canada
Thanks: 98
Thanked:159
Posted: 01-27-06 10:52am
Thanks tigres!!!
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 01-27-06 10:59am
It can not bouce off of something--if it
is not pointed toward it, or if something
else is in the way. Like they told me
my intestines were in the way. So,
only 16 to 32% of all abdominal
pregnancy's are seem on ultra sounds.
Besides that, havent you ever heard of an
angel standing in front of a burning shed
to keep the fire off of the house, have
you heard of an angel standing in the way
of bullets being fired at a man, have you
ever heard of a car on a distant highway
heading for inpending doom, suddenly
finding themselves on a different highway,
heard of cancers removed, limbs growing
back on, pple walking out of wheelchairs,
deaf ears being opened, blind eyes opened,
organs growing back inside someone, if
.God did not want her (an unbeliever) to
know, or anyone to know, or any unbeliever
to know. I am sure .He is .God enough
to do it. Or maybe .He just wants me
to have '.Faith', without evidence, or he
may want someone here to have 'faith'
without evidence. .He says "more
blessed is the man who believes without
seeing, than the man that has to see(have
evidence) to believe."
writing error---hence edit
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tabby1girl
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Michigan
Posted: 01-27-06 11:05am
Oh
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diamondsz
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 3333 Location: , Candyland-Canada
Thanks: 98
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Posted: 01-27-06 11:37am
Answer me this then joanna
so how could you see a fetal heartbeat as
said per ur pm which I have, if the u/s
could not bounce off the baby answer me
this
why is it every medical personnel (dr,
specialist, u/s) dont know what their
doing you have said numerous times their
all wrong.
Joanna some people actually care about you
when they say to seek medical help cause
you never know what could happen why would
any of us wish death upon you when we tell
you these things.
If you are indeed pregnant which all
medical resources are pointing to no then
you are putting your life at risk as well
as those kids!!!~!
So now its another excuse their hiding
behind your intestines now oh honey come
on you would have hospitalised by now in
pain severe pain to say the least because
the placenta attaching itself to to your
intestines when they are a vital organ.
God created medical science because he
cant be at our sides 24/7 everything that
we touch or feel is made my god and
honestly right now you really need to ask
god for help because you dont believe in
him or what he has created!!!
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diamondsz
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Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 3333 Location: , Candyland-Canada
Thanks: 98
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Posted: 01-27-06 11:42am
Hello,
ultra sound was inconclusive. But I seen
baby heart beating. She missed cuz she
was lookin at my kidney. On the right
side where baby is layin on my back, she
could not get my organs. Huh I wonder
why? Took her like an hour to get my
kidney on that side and radiologist had to
come in and take more pics of that kidney.
Huh?
But I know I am pregnant, I dont care what
she found or didnt find. God says "touch
not my glory". He will not share his
glory with anyone, and if dr's find it too
soon, then they can say---'i saved her, it
was me". And god says what I do, I will
not need any help from human hands, and I
will perfect it. For my glory!!!!!! She
didnt even look at my ovaries, and my
bladder looked like something was pressing
down on it. Every thing was like a milky
white in there. (like water bag) she said
my intestines were in the way. She dint
even look for baby, she did abdominal
ultrasound to see my organs. That's it.
And I told her baby laying on my back.
She dint even try and look for it. I just
know there is no way to try and tell the
sceptics yet, but I do have new appt for
this monday for ultrasound resullts and I
will ask her to do an mri, or ct scan.
Thanks for your genuine love and concern.
Always,
joanna
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diamondsz
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 3333 Location: , Candyland-Canada
Joanna, would you like to borrow my .Bible
to refer to?
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hotty
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 261 Location: texas
Hello Posted: 01-27-06 12:09pm
Well, like I said before on this posts, we
will all find out if fat family is
pregnant, its almost her due date , and we
will know the truth,
the very truth.
Am I right?
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 01-27-06 12:11pm
diamondsz
wrote:
thou shall not lie
you just did
i said I seen the heart---well, apparently
there was a little bouncing---doh--has
nothing to do with lying.
I already said there was a heart--so how
could that be a lie?????? Like you were
trying to devulge my secrets ???--i told
them all the same thing--about the
heart!!!!!
But your trying to tell me they cannot
make mistakes, and no way could it be in
there if they didnt see it, well, that is
a lie---how many times has a women given
birth to twins inside a closed in space
like the uterus, (lots of bouncing--and an
object to bounce off of--the uterus) and
the .Dr's dint know until she delivered it
that there were 2????? Answer me this??
How could they look at my daughters 6.3
weeks fetus and say it is not a baby, and
kill it with methotrexate, and then 3 days
later confirm it is a baby, but now it
will die---cuz they are so good? How
could they send me home in miocardial
infarction, and say it is gas.??? How
could they leave me for 4 years with such
a serious spinal cord injury and with lack
of feelings in my privates, and my legs
1/2 paralyzed, while spine injury sites
say it is a condition needing immediate
attention?????? They make mistakes.
And I did know how u/s works--it is no
secret!!
And on top of that to see a whole picture
of a baby at 6 1/2 to 7 months you have to
use a completely different resolution on
the machine, if she were to see something
it 'could' look like my organs, because
they would just see certain pieces of the
baby. At that resolution they could not
see the whole baby.
And secondly--i shared that email with
you--and I think that is rude putting it
up here. (not that I have anything to
hide--i have shared it all with them
--too) that was private--because I thought
you were listening and might have the
faith.
fatfamily02
wrote:
.He says "more blessed is the man
who believes without seeing, than the man
that has to see(have evidence) to
believe."
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hotty
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 261 Location: texas
Hello Posted: 01-27-06 12:21pm
I dont have a thing with you fat family,
its just that they would have seen these
babies, I do have faith in god , dont get
me wrong , but this has gone way to far,
this is plum rediculous, eaither theirs 2
babies or thier isnt. Face the truth,
and we all know pretty much the real truth
here , its simply that, thats what it
boils down too. In my opinion they would
have found them if that were so ,
alooooooooooooong time ago.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Re: Hello Posted: 01-27-06 12:52pm
hotty
wrote:
i dont have a thing with you
fat family, its just that they would have
seen these babies, I do have faith in god
, dont get me wrong , but this has gone
way to far, this is plum rediculous,
eaither theirs 2 babies or thier isnt.
Face the truth, and we all know pretty
much the real truth here , its simply
that, thats what it boils down too. In
my opinion they would have found them if
that were so , alooooooooooooong time
ago.
that is your opinion---
have faith and you will see!!!!
fatfamily02
wrote:
besides that, havent you
ever heard of an angel standing in front
of a burning shed to keep the fire off of
the house, have you heard of an angel
standing in the way of bullets being fired
at a man, have you ever heard of a car on
a distant highway heading for inpending
doom, suddenly finding themselves on a
different highway, heard of cancers
removed, limbs growing back on, pple
walking out of wheelchairs, deaf ears
being opened, blind eyes opened, organs
growing back inside someone, if .God did
not want her (an unbeliever) to know, or
anyone to know, or any unbeliever to know.
I am sure .He is .God enough to do it.
Or maybe .He just wants me to have
'.Faith', without evidence, or he may want
someone here to have 'faith' without
evidence. .He says "more blessed is the man
who believes without seeing, than the man
that has to see(have evidence) to
believe."
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Surrender
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 128 Location: canada
Posted: 01-27-06 13:12pm
diamondsz
wrote:
hello,
ultra sound was inconclusive. But I
seen baby heart beating. She missed cuz
she was lookin at my kidney. On the
right side where baby is layin on my back,
she could not get my organs. Huh I
wonder why? Took her like an hour to
get my kidney on that side and radiologist
had to come in and take more pics of that
kidney. Huh?
But I know I am pregnant, I dont care what
she found or didnt find. God says
"touch not my glory". He will not share
his glory with anyone, and if dr's find it
too soon, then they can say---'i saved
her, it was me". And god says what I
do, I will not need any help from human
hands, and I will perfect it. For my
glory!!!!!! She didnt even look at my
ovaries, and my bladder looked like
something was pressing down on it.
Every thing was like a milky white in
there. (like water bag) she said my
intestines were in the way. She dint
even look for baby, she did abdominal
ultrasound to see my organs. That's it.
And I told her baby laying on my back.
She dint even try and look for it. I
just know there is no way to try and tell
the sceptics yet, but I do have new appt
for this monday for ultrasound resullts
and I will ask her to do an mri, or ct
scan.
Thanks for your genuine love and concern.
Always,
joanna
is it just me or did fatfamily write this
but it comes up as diamondsz
maybe its just my computer?? Or my
eyes...??
