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sandyallen

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Posted: 01-26-06 13:33pm

Please start listening to what some of us has to say, please do not believe everything you read and hear and some of the stuff on the internet is untrue. You need .H.E.L.P. Seriously! Get to mental health! They will help you and please don't get me wrong, I am not saying that you are crazy, heck, we all need help sometime in our lives or go to the disabled services, they will help you, you are heading yourself into serious problems, I think you are listening to the guy below at times instead of the man above. You have too many other health problems with your bad back for one, your diabetes for two, your age for three and your bad heart for another and that is all I will say about that for now.
I am not trying to sound mean or anything but if you are really pregnant and do care about the little ones and yourself you would be seeking better help as I am a firm believer that you find that helping hand at the end of your arm and he helps them that helps themselves. I care!
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diamondsz

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Posted: 01-26-06 13:54pm

Yes miracles do happen


what im about to write is something I have been holding back for awhile, I believed joanna at first but after all the bs I dont care anymore let me give you a medical lesson that il summarize from a medical book

in an abdominal pregnancy yes they are rare but they are picked up by u/s but sometimes what happens is the mother doesnt even know shes carrying a child until it too late where her life is endangered because the placenta has attached itself to a vital organ causing sever pain, death of fetus or internal hemmoraging. Medical science is so advanced that an u/s can pick up a tumor the size of a pea/dime etc, (because of this technology my mother is alive right now after having a tumor on her ovaries.) anyways back to medical crap, joanna sent me a message one day she said she saw a heartbeat but the test was inclunclusive which isnt possible because a u/s tech is extremely knowledgeable in what they do and her life is at stake not a little stake im talking life or death.

If joanna truly were indeed pregnant two fetuses would show up on the u/s because they would have attached themselves in the abdominal cavity which a pelvic u/s would pick up. As well at 30 weeks joanna would be in severe pain were she wouldnt be able to walk, talk etc because the placenta has built itself on an organ thats function is vital and it would react to the fetus/placenta as an infection trying to kill them off. We have one organ that is not vital (appendix) but it would still treat the fetus as an infection meaning this woman would not be alive right now without surgery.

Im sorry joanna I truly am but this is the god given truth, I have problems too but I think you should see a dr for your health/sanity....

Unfortunatly dont take this the wrong way but the only way an u/c cannot pick up the image of two fetuses is because their invisible and that makes things a bit harder to believe.

If god had wanted us to believe joanna he would have shown us (not me and the others but medical profeesional) proof god always shows us the way to truth unfortunatly this time around I think you should seek help!!

Good luck everyone and I hope that everything I made is clear
jess
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kirztensmummy

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Posted: 01-26-06 14:23pm

Oh jess I dont know if this is worth it. I know u went into so much trouble researching for joanna's benefit but if she's gonna listen she wouldve listened to us eons ago. We've had so much conflict with other members because of her and I dont think she's worth all the arguments because if she is willing to accept our help she wouldve acknowledged it by now and started sorting her "illness" out instead of cursing everyone who disagreed with her with god's wrath.
Its just so annoying that an informative forum such as ehealth is dominated by someone whose so into their own selfish self and just couldnt be bothered to listen to people's advise and let alone let people here bicker with one another to satisfy her own gain of sympathy. I dont really wanna offend anyone
i feel sorry for her but its really pathetic.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 01-26-06 14:44pm

kirztensmummy wrote:
oh jess I dont know if this is worth it. I know u went into so much trouble researching for joanna's benefit but if she's gonna listen she wouldve listened to us eons ago. We've had so much conflict with other members because of her and I dont think she's worth all the arguments because if she is willing to accept our help she wouldve acknowledged it by now and started sorting her "illness" out instead of cursing everyone who disagreed with her with god's wrath.


Its just so annoying that an informative forum such as ehealth is dominated by someone whose so into their own selfish self and just couldnt be bothered to listen to people's advise and let alone let people here bicker with one another to satisfy her own gain of sympathy. I dont really wanna offend anyone
i feel sorry for her but its really pathetic.


why cant you all just drop--it I dont care if you believe. Just for one day may my .God and savior allow you to feel what I feel. For one day--you could not deny it either. I have cussed no one so "thou shalt not bear false witness" its a commandment. This has nothing to do with attention, and selfishness--you might wanna watch your tongue--cuz god will judge you in the manner you judge someone else. my care for others and lack of selfishness--is not in question here, but by judgeing yours might just well be. "i am selfish because I am not listening to the "devils" words about me, and I choose not to believe them." because I dont believe you. Good one. "whose report will you believe, I shall believe the report of the .Lord?" I truly believe that all of you who hunger so much to get me to admit that .God did not do what he promised me, and believe what the .Dr's say--since I trust them so much--are the ones who are pathetic. You expect me to believe you and your words, believe the .Dr's, who have proved themselves wrong to me more than right, and what the "devil" is saying about me---over what .God told me, and what .God promised me.

i would be asking myself--all of you--why it is so important to you to prove me wrong, and why it is so important to get me to admit or accept the fact that I am crazy??? I am not crazy, and even if I have made a mistake, it still dont make me crazy. But there is no way to deny what I am experiencing. What I feel in my body, and the pains I endure thru this, not counting all the emotional pain I have endured from non caring, self-seeking individuals who know more than I do about my own body. You will all know the truth soon!!! I dont think I can physically go much farther--so I know .God has my back and something will be happening really soon. So you will see---i have nothing more to say or add to this. Believe if you want---dont believe if you are inclined to do so, but please quit bashing me--and then saying "i dont mean to be mean, or im not trying to hurt anyone" because you certainly are trying to hurt me and you know it.


For ----lsipes--- here are some links proving abdominal pregnancy does happen, and it is possible to carry to term.

http://speedy-affiliate.C om/abdom.Html

http://speedy-affiliate.C om/links.Html

http://speedy-affiliate.C om/proofofabdominal.Html

http://speedy-affiliate.C om/mommas2.Html
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diamondsz

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Posted: 01-26-06 14:55pm

True anna

I just I know I had my bout with her last week and I was rude but I just get so frustrated with it honestly everytime we get results their inclonclusive or they cant find anything but she seems to find something.


Joanna if you read this I want you to understand why im writing this because I think you need help and im going to tell you something I dont usually open up about...

I have seasonal bipolar disorder and if I would have gotten the help I needed I may not be alive right now now usually its extremely mild but what triggers it for me is a hormonal imbalance I get I only found thid out recently because I pushed and pushed for a Dr. Why should you be ashamed if there is something wrong the whole reason we have drs is for them to help us I know denial can play games with us but you need to think about your well being here. You believe your not lying and I can belive that because sometimes a phantom pregnancy or pathological liars believe something so hard in their head it is. You should seek medical attention for your benefit because you never know what can happen in this world its crazy enough as it is.

Good luck!!
Jess
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diamondsz

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Posted: 01-26-06 14:57pm

Jess if you see this post can you lock it this is just way out of hand !!
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tigresacanela24

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Posted: 01-26-06 14:57pm

If you read up on the history you'll see exactly what your getting yourself into :lol: fatfamily provides a lot of conversation in this forum. When I first started here I was like "whoa, what's going on?" reading up let me catch up cuz it's a pretty long story. I try not to get too involved in the posts anymore cuz it can get pretty heated. Surprisingly enough though it seems to have calmed down.... That was for lsipes but I must be too late. Didn't read second page.... Looks like it hasn't calmed down any
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erogers33

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:05pm

Joanna, maybe you didn't see my question posted earlier, but when is your next appointment? Are you going to ask them to perform an .M.R.I or an x-ray? Girl, if they refuse to give you one and you truly believe you are pregnant, keep fighting them until they give you one. They will either be proven right or wrong. I don't understand why they haven't offered to do one before now. I really hope everything turns out ok in the end. You shouldn't be in that much pain with no relief.
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tigresacanela24

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:28pm

Okay, i've had just about enough of this. I try to keep my mouth shut about this because joanna has been extremely nice to me. I'm going to get my two cents in this time before they lock it down. I'm not perfect, I don't pretend to be. But first of all, joanna be realistic, just because someone doesn't believe you doesn't make them evil or satanic. You are not .God so no one has to believe you. Nowhere in the bible does .God tell us to put our faith & trust in another human being. Our faith & trust belongs in the .Lord. You're always saying that someone is being mean to you. Just because someone doesn't agree with or believe you doesn't mean they're being mean to you. A lot of people on this site do have genuine concern for you. They are genuinely worried about every aspect of your health. And not to be smart but .God made doctors for a reason. That doesn't make them the final authority on your health but hey they are here for a reason. Just because you believe in .God does that mean that if you break your leg you're going to keep walking on it and wait for .Him to heal you? You wouldn't do that, that would be foolish. There's faith and there's foolishness. And I hate to break it to you but .God isn't your personal curse machine. Apparently, you haven't read your bible. Remember that part about "for .God so loved the world". The world joanna. Not just you. The bible also says that .God is no respecter of persons. So if he loves us all and respects us all equally what makes you think that .God's going to rain down fire and brimstone on all of our heads because someone said something to you. Ain't gonna happen. If anyone should be worried about their soul it's you for trying to twist .God and his word to fit your purpose. What kind of christian witness is that? And you can call me mean if you want to you can rain down whatever twisted words you want on my head. I have an obligation as a .Christian to speak out when I see something wrong. You twisting the bible and trying to rain hellfire and damnation on people is wrong. You don't have the authority to do that, honey.
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Sunflower_pie81

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:40pm

erogers33 wrote:
hey joanna,

sorry if i'm sounding like a broken record, but when is your next appointment? If I were you, I would absolutely demand and mri or x-ray. Yes, they normally don't want to do any type of scans on pregnant women, but since the doctors don't believe you, I don't see why they would have any problems doing them.

All the best.


don't you know that they don't do mri or xrays on pregnant wemon. You can't even get your teeth xrays done.
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lil_blaze2004

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:41pm

Ok as a mod I am supposed to stay pretty neutral and i'm not just agreeing with diampndz cause she is my friend but she put it in a proper way too.

Joanna, even if they had just done a pelvic exam, they would've seen even one baby. I've seen your pics, you do not way 500lbs+ and they would have been able to see something by this point.

My sil is pregnant and the baby is so high up in her uterus that it is near her own heart (and why they thouhgt twins at first because with the doppler, the doc heard 2 heartbeats ----the baby's and hers) she found out it's only 1 thank .God isnce she already has 2 kids (15mths and 6) and she's only 25-lol) anyhoo the point is they still found the baby no problem even though it was so high up. And that/those heartbeats you're hearing is probably yours.

Joanna if the docs and u/s techs and so forth all thought you were pregnant with no uterus, they would have done a very thourough u/s and they would've kept you in for tests as it is .L.I.F.E. T.H.R.E.A.T.N.I.N.G.

I feel very sad for you and we can't drop it cause you came on here for months telling us this stuff and we'd all like to know what happens with you. I'm sure most of us mean well too (yes there are a few a$$' out there) you said you sold your car to buy baby stuff, what are you gonna do now? What are you gonna do come april? (or probably before since I know twins don't usually make it to their due date).

I don;t know if the states are f-ed up or something but I know no doctor or hosp up here would let a 43 yr old woman who claims to be pregnant with no uterus leave untill everything was figured out. There's just no way.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:43pm

Thank you tigresacanela24 you said it pretty darn well! A lot of you did and we have tried, now it is up to her.
Good luck to fatfamily02. I do hope you get the help you need! No april fools please!


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lil_blaze2004

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:44pm

sunflower_pie81 wrote:


don't you know that they don't do mri or xrays on pregnant wemon. You can't even get your teeth xrays done.


you can get x-rays done after the first trimester ends if it is something urgent be it at the doctor or dentist. (haha that's how I found out I was preggers!! :-) )
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Tamadrummer

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:44pm

tigresacanela24 wrote:
okay, i've had just about enough of this. I try to keep my mouth shut about this because joanna has been extremely nice to me. I'm going to get my two cents in this time before they lock it down. I'm not perfect, I don't pretend to be. But first of all, joanna be realistic, just because someone doesn't believe you doesn't make them evil or satanic. You are not .God so no one has to believe you. Nowhere in the bible does .God tell us to put our faith & trust in another human being. Our faith & trust belongs in the .Lord. You're always saying that someone is being mean to you. Just because someone doesn't agree with or believe you doesn't mean they're being mean to you. A lot of people on this site do have genuine concern for you. They are genuinely worried about every aspect of your health. And not to be smart but .God made doctors for a reason. That doesn't make them the final authority on your health but hey they are here for a reason. Just because you believe in .God does that mean that if you break your leg you're going to keep walking on it and wait for .Him to heal you? You wouldn't do that, that would be foolish. There's faith and there's foolishness. And I hate to break it to you but .God isn't your personal curse machine. Apparently, you haven't read your bible. Remember that part about "for .God so loved the world". The world joanna. Not just you. The bible also says that .God is no respecter of persons. So if he loves us all and respects us all equally what makes you think that .God's going to rain down fire and brimstone on all of our heads because someone said something to you. Ain't gonna happen. If anyone should be worried about their soul it's you for trying to twist .God and his word to fit your purpose. What kind of christian witness is that? And you can call me mean if you want to you can rain down whatever twisted words you want on my head. I have an obligation as a .Christian to speak out when I see something wrong. You twisting the bible and trying to rain hellfire and damnation on people is wrong. You don't have the authority to do that, honey.


yes yes yes

finally a second person to understand scripture as it is written!
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Sunflower_pie81

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:56pm

lil_blaze2004 wrote:
sunflower_pie81 wrote:


don't you know that they don't do mri or xrays on pregnant wemon. You can't even get your teeth xrays done.


you can get x-rays done after the first trimester ends if it is something urgent be it at the doctor or dentist. (haha that's how I found out I was preggers!! :-) )


but they don't recomend it. If its a dire emergancy. I know when they knew I was preggers and had cyst rupture they wouldn't do one and found ways around it.They also will not take out my wisdome teeth because they can't do a x-ray on them. And they are killing me.


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sandyallen

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:57pm

Li'l blaze the dr's here some can be turds , I admit but they cannot turn people away. It is against policy and procedure. We miht red-line someone for wanting to come in all of the time and get a pain fix but they are still seen and the patients even admit they have a problem w/drugs.
How's the big boy doing?
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tigresacanela24

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Posted: 01-26-06 15:58pm

I just get upset by people who think .God is their personal pit bull on a leash. :roll: i've heard enough people like that in my life for it to really get under my skin.
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erogers33

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Posted: 01-26-06 16:18pm

Sunflower_pie81: I know doctors don't like to perform x-rays on pregnant women, and that's my point. But the doctor's .D.O.N'.T believe joanna is pregnant, and that is why I said they should have no problem doing one. It's obviously the only way joanna will either be proven wrong or right. If she supposedly says the doctors didn't see a baby on ultrasound, there is absolutely no way a baby would be missed on x-ray.
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Posted: 01-26-06 16:52pm

sandyallen wrote:

how's the big boy doing?



he's great!! I posted a couple of pics under the topic 6 months!
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hotty

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Posted: 01-26-06 17:03pm

I have read all your posts here, and I agree with you all, the only way we would ever find out, is when its time for her to deliver, so I guess we can all just wait and see, to see the real truth here. If she ever comes back.
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