sandyallen
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Fatfamily02
Posted: 01-26-06 13:33pm
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Please start listening to what some of us
has to say, please do not believe
everything you read and hear and some of
the stuff on the internet is untrue. You
need .H.E.L.P. Seriously! Get to mental
health! They will help you and please
don't get me wrong, I am not saying that
you are crazy, heck, we all need help
sometime in our lives or go to the
disabled services, they will help you, you
are heading yourself into serious
problems, I think you are listening to the
guy below at times instead of the man
above. You have too many other health
problems with your bad back for one, your
diabetes for two, your age for three and
your bad heart for another and that is all
I will say about that for now.
I am not trying to sound mean or anything
but if you are really pregnant and do care
about the little ones and yourself you
would be seeking better help as I am a
firm believer that you find that helping
hand at the end of your arm and he helps
them that helps themselves. I care!
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diamondsz
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the Truth
Posted: 01-26-06 13:54pm
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Yes miracles do happen
what im about to write is something I
have been holding back for awhile, I
believed joanna at first but after all the
bs I dont care anymore let me give you a
medical lesson that il summarize from a
medical book
in an abdominal pregnancy yes they are
rare but they are picked up by u/s but
sometimes what happens is the mother
doesnt even know shes carrying a child
until it too late where her life is
endangered because the placenta has
attached itself to a vital organ causing
sever pain, death of fetus or internal
hemmoraging. Medical science is so
advanced that an u/s can pick up a tumor
the size of a pea/dime etc, (because of
this technology my mother is alive right
now after having a tumor on her ovaries.)
anyways back to medical crap, joanna sent
me a message one day she said she saw a
heartbeat but the test was inclunclusive
which isnt possible because a u/s tech is
extremely knowledgeable in what they do
and her life is at stake not a little
stake im talking life or death.
If joanna truly were indeed pregnant two
fetuses would show up on the u/s because
they would have attached themselves in the
abdominal cavity which a pelvic u/s would
pick up. As well at 30 weeks joanna
would be in severe pain were she wouldnt
be able to walk, talk etc because the
placenta has built itself on an organ
thats function is vital and it would react
to the fetus/placenta as an infection
trying to kill them off. We have one
organ that is not vital (appendix) but it
would still treat the fetus as an
infection meaning this woman would not be
alive right now without surgery.
Im sorry joanna I truly am but this is the
god given truth, I have problems too but I
think you should see a dr for your
health/sanity....
Unfortunatly dont take this the wrong
way but the only way an u/c cannot pick up
the image of two fetuses is because their
invisible and that makes things a bit
harder to believe.
If god had wanted us to believe joanna he
would have shown us (not me and the others
but medical profeesional) proof god always
shows us the way to truth unfortunatly
this time around I think you should seek
help!!
Good luck everyone and I hope that
everything I made is clear
jess
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kirztensmummy
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Posted: 01-26-06 14:23pm
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Oh jess I dont know if this is worth it.
I know u went into so much trouble
researching for joanna's benefit but if
she's gonna listen she wouldve listened to
us eons ago. We've had so much conflict
with other members because of her and I
dont think she's worth all the arguments
because if she is willing to accept our
help she wouldve acknowledged it by now
and started sorting her "illness" out
instead of cursing everyone who disagreed
with her with god's wrath.
Its just so annoying that an informative
forum such as ehealth is dominated by
someone whose so into their own selfish
self and just couldnt be bothered to
listen to people's advise and let alone
let people here bicker with one another to
satisfy her own gain of sympathy. I dont
really wanna offend anyone
i feel sorry for her but its really
pathetic.
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fatfamily02
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Posted: 01-26-06 14:44pm
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| kirztensmummy
wrote: | oh jess I dont know if this
is worth it. I know u went into so much
trouble researching for joanna's benefit
but if she's gonna listen she wouldve
listened to us eons ago. We've had so
much conflict with other members because
of her and I dont think she's worth all
the arguments because if she is willing to
accept our help she wouldve acknowledged
it by now and started sorting her
"illness" out instead of cursing everyone
who disagreed with her with god's wrath.
Its just so annoying that an informative
forum such as ehealth is dominated by
someone whose so into their own selfish
self and just couldnt be bothered to
listen to people's advise and let alone
let people here bicker with one another to
satisfy her own gain of sympathy. I
dont really wanna offend anyone
i feel sorry for her but its really
pathetic. |
why cant you all just drop--it I dont care
if you believe. Just for one day may my
.God and savior allow you to feel what I
feel. For one day--you could not deny
it either. I have cussed no one so
"thou shalt not bear false witness" its a
commandment. This has nothing to do
with attention, and selfishness--you might
wanna watch your tongue--cuz god will
judge you in the manner you judge someone
else. my care for others and lack
of selfishness--is not in question here,
but by judgeing yours might just well be.
"i am selfish because I am not listening
to the "devils" words about me, and I
choose not to believe them." because I
dont believe you. Good one. "whose
report will you believe, I shall believe
the report of the .Lord?" I truly believe
that all of you who hunger so much to get
me to admit that .God did not do what he
promised me, and believe what the .Dr's
say--since I trust them so
much--are the ones who are
pathetic. You expect me to believe you
and your words, believe the .Dr's, who have proved
themselves wrong to me more than
right, and what the "devil" is
saying about me---over what .God told me,
and what .God promised me.
i would be asking myself--all of you--why
it is so important to you to prove me
wrong, and why it is so important to get
me to admit or accept the fact that I am
crazy??? I am not crazy, and even if I
have made a mistake, it still dont make me
crazy. But there is no way to deny what
I am experiencing. What I feel in my
body, and the pains I endure thru this,
not counting all the emotional pain I have
endured from non caring, self-seeking
individuals who know more than I do about
my own body. You will all know the
truth soon!!! I dont think I can
physically go much farther--so I know .God
has my back and something will be
happening really soon. So you will
see---i have nothing more to say or add to
this. Believe if you want---dont
believe if you are inclined to do so, but
please quit bashing me--and then saying "i
dont mean to be mean, or im not trying to
hurt anyone" because you certainly are
trying to hurt me and you know it.
For ----lsipes--- here are some links
proving abdominal pregnancy does happen,
and it is possible to carry to term.
http://speedy-affiliate.C
om/abdom.Html
http://speedy-affiliate.C
om/links.Html
http://speedy-affiliate.C
om/proofofabdominal.Html
http://speedy-affiliate.C
om/mommas2.Html
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diamondsz
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Posted: 01-26-06 14:55pm
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True anna
I just I know I had my bout with her
last week and I was rude but I just get so
frustrated with it honestly everytime we
get results their inclonclusive or they
cant find anything but she seems to find
something.
Joanna if you read this I want you to
understand why im writing this because I
think you need help and im going to tell
you something I dont usually open up
about...
I have seasonal bipolar disorder and if
I would have gotten the help I needed I
may not be alive right now now usually its
extremely mild but what triggers it for me
is a hormonal imbalance I get I only found
thid out recently because I pushed and
pushed for a Dr. Why should you be
ashamed if there is something wrong the
whole reason we have drs is for them to
help us I know denial can play games with
us but you need to think about your well
being here. You believe your not lying
and I can belive that because sometimes a
phantom pregnancy or pathological liars
believe something so hard in their head it
is. You should seek medical attention
for your benefit because you never know
what can happen in this world its crazy
enough as it is.
Good luck!!
Jess
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diamondsz
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Posted: 01-26-06 14:57pm
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Jess if you see this post can you lock it
this is just way out of hand !!
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tigresacanela24
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Posted: 01-26-06 14:57pm
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If you read up on the history you'll see
exactly what your getting yourself into
:lol: fatfamily provides a lot of
conversation in this forum. When I
first started here I was like "whoa,
what's going on?" reading up let me catch
up cuz it's a pretty long story. I try
not to get too involved in the posts
anymore cuz it can get pretty heated.
Surprisingly enough though it seems to
have calmed down.... That was for lsipes
but I must be too late. Didn't read
second page.... Looks like it hasn't
calmed down any
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erogers33
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 141 Location: Littleton, CO
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:05pm
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Joanna, maybe you didn't see my question
posted earlier, but when is your next
appointment? Are you going to ask them to
perform an .M.R.I or an x-ray? Girl, if
they refuse to give you one and you truly
believe you are pregnant, keep fighting
them until they give you one. They will
either be proven right or wrong. I don't
understand why they haven't offered to do
one before now. I really hope everything
turns out ok in the end. You shouldn't be
in that much pain with no relief.
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tigresacanela24
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:28pm
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Okay, i've had just about enough of this.
I try to keep my mouth shut about this
because joanna has been extremely nice to
me. I'm going to get my two cents in
this time before they lock it down. I'm
not perfect, I don't pretend to be. But
first of all, joanna be realistic, just
because someone doesn't believe you
doesn't make them evil or satanic. You
are not .God so no one has to believe you.
Nowhere in the bible does .God tell us
to put our faith & trust in another
human being. Our faith & trust
belongs in the .Lord. You're always
saying that someone is being mean to you.
Just because someone doesn't agree with
or believe you doesn't mean they're being
mean to you. A lot of people on this
site do have genuine concern for you.
They are genuinely worried about every
aspect of your health. And not to be
smart but .God made doctors for a reason.
That doesn't make them the final
authority on your health but hey they are
here for a reason. Just because you
believe in .God does that mean that if
you break your leg you're going to keep
walking on it and wait for .Him to heal
you? You wouldn't do that, that would be
foolish. There's faith and there's
foolishness. And I hate to break it to
you but .God isn't your personal curse
machine. Apparently, you haven't read
your bible. Remember that part about
"for .God so loved the world". The world
joanna. Not just you. The bible also
says that .God is no respecter of persons.
So if he loves us all and respects us
all equally what makes you think that
.God's going to rain down fire and
brimstone on all of our heads because
someone said something to you. Ain't
gonna happen. If anyone should be
worried about their soul it's you for
trying to twist .God and his word to fit
your purpose. What kind of christian
witness is that? And you can call me
mean if you want to you can rain down
whatever twisted words you want on my
head. I have an obligation as a
.Christian to speak out when I see
something wrong. You twisting the bible
and trying to rain hellfire and damnation
on people is wrong. You don't have the
authority to do that, honey.
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:40pm
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| erogers33
wrote: | hey joanna,
sorry if i'm sounding like a broken
record, but when is your next appointment?
If I were you, I would absolutely demand
and mri or x-ray. Yes, they normally
don't want to do any type of scans on
pregnant women, but since the doctors
don't believe you, I don't see why they
would have any problems doing them.
All the best. |
don't you know that they don't do mri or
xrays on pregnant wemon. You can't even
get your teeth xrays done.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:41pm
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Ok as a mod I am supposed to stay pretty
neutral and i'm not just agreeing with
diampndz cause she is my friend but she
put it in a proper way too.
Joanna, even if they had just done a
pelvic exam, they would've seen even one
baby. I've seen your pics, you do not
way 500lbs+ and they would have been able
to see something by this point.
My sil is pregnant and the baby is so high
up in her uterus that it is near her own
heart (and why they thouhgt twins at
first because with the doppler, the doc
heard 2 heartbeats ----the baby's and
hers) she found out it's only 1 thank
.God isnce she already has 2 kids (15mths
and 6) and she's only 25-lol) anyhoo the
point is they still found the baby no
problem even though it was so high up.
And that/those heartbeats you're hearing
is probably yours.
Joanna if the docs and u/s techs and so
forth all thought you were pregnant with
no uterus, they would have done a very
thourough u/s and they would've kept you
in for tests as it is .L.I.F.E.
T.H.R.E.A.T.N.I.N.G.
I feel very sad for you and we can't drop
it cause you came on here for months
telling us this stuff and we'd all like to
know what happens with you. I'm sure
most of us mean well too (yes there are a
few a$$' out there) you said you sold
your car to buy baby stuff, what are you
gonna do now? What are you gonna do come
april? (or probably before since I know
twins don't usually make it to their due
date).
I don;t know if the states are f-ed up or
something but I know no doctor or hosp up
here would let a 43 yr old woman who
claims to be pregnant with no uterus leave
untill everything was figured out.
There's just no way.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:43pm
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Thank you tigresacanela24 you said it
pretty darn well! A lot of you did and
we have tried, now it is up to her.
Good luck to fatfamily02. I do hope you
get the help you need! No april fools
please!
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:44pm
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| sunflower_pie81
wrote: |
don't you know that they don't do mri or
xrays on pregnant wemon. You can't even
get your teeth xrays
done. |
you can get x-rays done after the first
trimester ends if it is something urgent
be it at the doctor or dentist. (haha
that's how I found out I was preggers!!
:-) )
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Tamadrummer
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:44pm
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| tigresacanela24
wrote: | | okay, i've had just about
enough of this. I try to keep my mouth
shut about this because joanna has been
extremely nice to me. I'm going to get
my two cents in this time before they lock
it down. I'm not perfect, I don't
pretend to be. But first of all, joanna
be realistic, just because someone doesn't
believe you doesn't make them evil or
satanic. You are not .God so no one has
to believe you. Nowhere in the bible
does .God tell us to put our faith &
trust in another human being. Our faith
& trust belongs in the .Lord.
You're always saying that someone is being
mean to you. Just because someone
doesn't agree with or believe you doesn't
mean they're being mean to you. A lot
of people on this site do have genuine
concern for you. They are genuinely
worried about every aspect of your health.
And not to be smart but .God made
doctors for a reason. That doesn't make
them the final authority on your health
but hey they are here for a reason.
Just because you believe in .God does that
mean that if you break your leg you're
going to keep walking on it and wait for
.Him to heal you? You wouldn't do that,
that would be foolish. There's faith
and there's foolishness. And I hate to
break it to you but .God isn't your
personal curse machine. Apparently, you
haven't read your bible. Remember that
part about "for .God so loved the world".
The world joanna. Not just you.
The bible also says that .God is no
respecter of persons. So if he loves us
all and respects us all equally what makes
you think that .God's going to rain down
fire and brimstone on all of our heads
because someone said something to you.
Ain't gonna happen. If anyone should be
worried about their soul it's you for
trying to twist .God and his word to fit
your purpose. What kind of christian
witness is that? And you can call me
mean if you want to you can rain down
whatever twisted words you want on my
head. I have an obligation as a
.Christian to speak out when I see
something wrong. You twisting the bible
and trying to rain hellfire and damnation
on people is wrong. You don't have the
authority to do that,
honey. |
yes yes yes
finally a second person to understand
scripture as it is written!
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:56pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | sunflower_pie81
wrote: |
don't you know that they don't do mri or
xrays on pregnant wemon. You can't
even get your teeth xrays
done. |
you can get x-rays done after the first
trimester ends if it is something urgent
be it at the doctor or dentist. (haha
that's how I found out I was preggers!!
:-) ) |
but they don't recomend it. If its a
dire emergancy. I know when they knew I
was preggers and had cyst rupture they
wouldn't do one and found ways around
it.They also will not take out my wisdome
teeth because they can't do a x-ray on
them. And they are killing me.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:57pm
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Li'l blaze the dr's here some can be turds
, I admit but they cannot turn people
away. It is against policy and procedure.
We miht red-line someone for wanting to
come in all of the time and get a pain fix
but they are still seen and the patients
even admit they have a problem w/drugs.
How's the big boy doing?
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tigresacanela24
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Posted: 01-26-06 15:58pm
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I just get upset by people who think .God
is their personal pit bull on a leash.
:roll: i've heard enough people like that
in my life for it to really get under my
skin.
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erogers33
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Posted: 01-26-06 16:18pm
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Sunflower_pie81: I know doctors don't like
to perform x-rays on pregnant women, and
that's my point. But the doctor's
.D.O.N'.T believe joanna is pregnant, and
that is why I said they should have no
problem doing one. It's obviously the
only way joanna will either be proven
wrong or right. If she supposedly says
the doctors didn't see a baby on
ultrasound, there is absolutely no way a
baby would be missed on x-ray.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-26-06 16:52pm
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| sandyallen
wrote: |
how's the big boy
doing? |
he's great!! I posted a couple of pics
under the topic 6 months!
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hotty
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Hi
Posted: 01-26-06 17:03pm
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I have read all your posts here, and I
agree with you all, the only way we would
ever find out, is when its time for her to
deliver, so I guess we can all just wait
and see, to see the real truth here. If
she ever comes back.
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