Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-01-06 21:47pm
Just came from the .Dr's again. I think
she is beginning to believe, I gave her a
lot of medical things from the internet
this time too. I was planning on the
hormone tests coming out to my
benefit--but they did not. I found that
progestrone is only elevated thru the
corpus luteum of pregnancy. And that is
well over by now, I did suggest it 4
months ago though. The alpha feto
protein only shows in certain cases, I
just found that out last night when
studying papers to give to .Dr. I
thought it always came out in abdominal
pregnancy--not true!!!
I do have good news however--she is
referring me to a .Dr who is experienced
in abdominal, ectopic pregnancy, while she
takes a leave of absense. So good news.
All my other test still come out
excellant, even blood pressure. Except
my sugar is high which I had begin to
notice it getting very high, and has
caused me to have high triglicerides,
which is from the high sugars. I am back
on my insulin. She explained to me that
it is okay for the baby. She actually
talked to me like she believes me, after
me gettin on her last week. I dont know
we will see.
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Surrender
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 128 Location: canada
Posted: 02-01-06 21:56pm
Hey joanna, i'm so happy to hear that
you've finally gotten thru to a doc. When
do you go see this speciallist?
Its just so wonderful that this is all
coming together for you! I never once
doubted you. And obviously tests that
work in normal pregs won't work for your
situation!
Best of luck! I'm just sooo happy 4 ya
=)
take care sweety
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-01-06 22:20pm
Thank you
i am suppose to go back in a week. I
need to call tomorrow for appt.
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Surrender
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 128 Location: canada
Posted: 02-01-06 22:32pm
Good to hear they;re getting you in there
asap. Any idea what they're gonna check
on ya or how??
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pixma
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 1019 Location: NSW Australia
Posted: 02-02-06 06:11am
Yyaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy!!
I'm sooo happy for you joanna!! :-)
and can I say its about time they listened
to you!!!
Love shar
p.S I now know why I cant get pregnant!!
My gyno diagnosed me with polycystic
ovarian syndrome.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-02-06 18:51pm
I am sorry to hear that. What do they
do--give you hormones to try and get
pregnant with this??
They said my daughter possibly had it,
they found cysts and she had very
irregular periods. When she did get
pregnant it was the only time she let a
guy ejac in her. And now her periods
are regular. I know a lot of the
problems are caused from hormonal
imbalance and I have been studying that a
llittle for her. If all her hormones
were in line I dont know--maybe she
wouldnt have any of the problems--anxiety
disorder, depression, sleep all the time,
borderline diabetic, possible hypothyroid,
and possible pcos, and impossible to loose
weight and keeps gaining although she eats
regular, or less than the rest of us.
She eats first thing in the mornin too
which is good for most pple to get their
metabolism started. Helps to loose
weight if you eat as soon as you get up.
Most pple think if they miss meals,
that is good for weight loss, but it is
the exact opposite. Eating atleast 3
or 4 times a day, with healthy snacks, and
smaller portions and this is how you loose
weight.
Sorry kinda got off the subject. I
will pray for all you girls with pcos, and
or infertility issues, that you get your
baby's. "that your joy might be
full"
.God bless you, pixma,
always,
joanna
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pixma
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 1019 Location: NSW Australia
Posted: 02-03-06 05:34am
Thanks joanna, much appreciated!!!
Love shar
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Keekiluv
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 98 Location: Tennessee
Posted: 02-03-06 08:43am
I'm sorry I will continue to be skeptical,
until I see the birth announcement and
pictures. If she was carrying twins,
there would no way that the both of them
would be able to hide. I realize
that I have been considered one of the
so-called "mean" ones, but I am older than
many of you guys that visit this site and
have seen many more things than you guys
have. Maybe, my beliefs have became
tainted. I have seen times when
there have been problems in relationships
and a "pregnancy' comes about, to heal the
relationships and there is a miscarriage,
I have had a friend to do that. I
have seen people so afraid of being
pregnant that they show all the symptoms
and there is no baby. I didn't want
to believe that I was. I remember her
saying that when she thought that she got
pregnant, that she and her husband were
having problems.
I'm not saying that this is actually what
is going on with her, but it's something
to consider. Like she has said many
times, we don't know her, true, but the
majority of us that visit this site are
women and we all know how we women can be
sometimes. If it turns out that she
gives birth, I would one of the first to
eat my words. Don't want anything to
happen to her or none of her loved ones
and I can any wish them all of the best.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-03-06 09:34am
Well, you could look at it that way,
but....In my mind this is how I look at
it. Every thing happens when it is
suppose to happen, it was meant to happen
then. Everything is dependant on
something else, every action, has an equal
and opposite reaction. If I had not
returned to my husband--and believe me he
can be a shyt--i would not be having "the
miracle" right now. I have already
waited 18 years for it, and if I had not
returned to him, I would not be having it
now. I almost coulda missed it. And
possibly forever. I am no spring
chicken ya know, and with all my
miscarriages and births, I coulda went
thru the change pretty soon and then what.
I coulda never come home to him, and
then what.
I had seen "the baby boy" in a vision many
years before I met my husband, and when I
walked into his mom's shop for the first
time, I seen a picture of his sister's kid
and it looked just like the boy in my
vision--years before I met him. Cept my
vision baby was even prettier--not that
his sister's kids wasnt--cuz she is very
pretty. This is what kept me hanging on
with him, so many times when I felt like
it would never change. It was the
vision and then the picture of his sisters
baby.
I do know my husband loves me, and he had
a hard time believeing this, sometimes I
think he still has really big doubts,
after feeling it move and hearing the
heartbeat and everything. Living with
me and all the pains I have from it, and
no sick tests can explain it either.
But there is a great big part of him that
has to change--still has to. And if it
never happens(that he changes) I have a
great deal of support from my children,
they would help me to get on my feet.
And help me with the baby's. I wish for
us to raise him/ them together but if not
I am prepared for that too. I lived 10
years in "no man's land"--so I am very
independant and I can do anything I put my
mind to. Period--
i can understand everything you say.
But for a second just look at it this
way!!!!!
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Keekiluv
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 98 Location: Tennessee
Posted: 02-03-06 10:17am
Thanks for the nice post. I can really
understand where you're coming from. My
pregnancy was unexpected, at a point in my
life where I was ready to do other things
in my life besides raise kids, which I
have been doing since I was a teen. I
believe it was meant to be because, I
didn't find out that I was pregnant until
after the time to abort it in my state,
which is between 14 and 18 weeks. I had
no choice but to get used to the fact that
I was pregnant and in the past few weeks I
have realized that this is a gift from
god. I have never had the problems that
you have experienced, I have never had any
type of "female problems". I felt that I
was too old to have another baby and when
I started to read your posts, I was
wondering what she is so happy about,
cause she's just as old as I am and I know
that the doctors have told her the risks.
We were not having any problems in our
relationship and since he found out about
the pregnancy, I think that things have
gotten even stronger. He talks more
about the pregnancy more than I do.
I am at the age to be talking about grand
kids, but instead i'm about to deal with
another child. Go figure it. But
after all the difference that we have had
joanna, i'm extending my hand out in
friendship, if you accept it.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-03-06 10:58am
First thing---i get to have my children in
2 different generations--i think that is
kewl. Secondly my kids and my
grandkids get to share their lives
together. Awesome. I have 2 1/2 year
old grandson, and 1 1/2 year old grand
daughter. I love it.
I accept your hand of friendship--and I
appreciate that.
As far as my situation goes, after all the
things I have experienced--they would have
to prove to me I am wrong--and they have
not done that. Even with u/s that did
not show us the baby/baby's. One of the
ladies with abdominal baby--they missed it
in u/s because it was laying behind her
stomach. And I also know they have
missed twins, when confined in the
uterus--with nothing other than water, and
placenta in there. Besides that they
move all day long now, everyday. I cant
help but feel them, and the pressure,
weight in there, on both sides of my
body.
And believe me if they could prove me
wrong--i would come and tell ya'all I had
made a mistake. I have told you all
everything--why would I hide that. I am
not scared and I would have nothing to
hide. But they have not--and will not
prove me wrong. Like I have said
before--if it happened to any of you--you
would know too. There is no mistake, it
is in there. We just gotta find someone
who will actually do something. I am
now 31.6weeks and believe me quarters are
getting really cramped.
You know .God said ."he would send me a
.Dr." the other day my gyno told me she
was taking leave. She was the one who
said she had talked to this .Dr who knows
about abdominal pregnancy, ectopic
pregnancy, and that I should go see him
this next week. I think last week, when
I got upset with her she finally is trying
to believe me. I told her if they didnt
do something soon--i was gonna call a
lawyer, and I did not want my baby to come
out with his head squished like the baby
on the internet story. And that he is
getting where he dont have hardly no room
to move anymore. Like too crowded.
And she needs to get something done.
So, now she has talked to this other .Dr
for me. Hhuumm!!!! Maybe this is the
.Dr .God was talkin about. I didnt know
how .He was gonna send me a .Dr, but this
would be it, I am sure of it.
Im sorry ya'all, my posts are always so
long. And I dont know if I said
something here yet, so I might repeat
myself often. Sorry.
Edit for (sp) error
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AshBoBash
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 277
Re Posted: 02-03-06 11:43am
But why would god be all so mysterious and
stuff about a pregnancy and send you to a
bunch of doctors who cant tell if a woman
is pregnant or not?
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Re: Re Posted: 02-03-06 11:53am
ashbobash
wrote:
but why would god be all so
mysterious and stuff about a pregnancy and
send you to a bunch of doctors who cant
tell if a woman is pregnant or
not?
first .God can do it anyway .He sees
fit.
Secondly .God does not share .His glory
with any man. He wants the world to
know it was .Him and only .Him who did
this for .His child. If .He is set on
showing .His miraculous glory--why would
he have to share it with a man, a .Dr or
even anyone for that matter. .God
said "a miracle baby" so what does "a
miracle baby" mean to .God, maybe this is
part of the miracle, going about it
blind--blind faith. Maybe it is just
for me--maybe my husband--so we can
"believe without seeing" he says "more
blessed is the man who can believe without
seeing, than the man who has to see to
believe"
there are alot of men who have to see to
believe, but .He mostly never lets me see,
before the fact. But when .He does
let me see before, there is no mistaken it
is .He who has spoken, or showed me a
thing. He told me 18 years ago, and
then in june (exactly to the month 18
years later) he reminded me of "the
promise" in a dream. And by july 9th
I had conceived. So actually I have
seen, with great symptoms and signs also.
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MaisytheDog
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1
Pcos Posted: 02-03-06 12:20pm
This is for the gal who said she couldn't
get pregnant since she had pcos
(polycystic ovaries). This is not true.
I am 37, and 34 weeks pregnant with my 1st
child. I have endometriosis (have had 6
surgeries for this) and have pcos.
I tried to get pregnant on my own for
about 6 months. I knew with my age, that
the next step was to do something like
clomid, which I didn't feel was right for
me. I saw this awesome doctor, who's just
a gp, but really takes the time to look at
the whole picture. Basically, he said the
reason I wasn't pregnant was that I wasn't
ovulating (the pcos problem).
He tested my hormones as well. He put me
on natural hormones which were
specifically made for me by a pharmacy
that compounds. (i was put on estrogen,
testosterone, and dhea -- to bring my
levels up to the right levels. I also
took progesterone to force a regular
period.) I was also put on metformin for
the pcos, which is for insulin resistance.
I was told with this group of therapy, it
would take 3 to 6 months to get pregnant.
It took one! Once I got pregnant, I was
told to take progesterone for the first 3
months to retain the pregnancy.
I went this route because I believe there
are reasons we are having problems, and
drugs may force you to become pregnant,
but it just isn't taking care of the
actual problem. I helped my body
naturally, and I believe this is the right
thing to do. We so quickly turn to drugs
to "fix" something that really just masks
a bigger problem.
I hope this gives some hope to those of
you unable to conceive naturally. I
encourage you to look into natural ways to
help your body what it wants to do!
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lisaboo
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 108 Location: colorado
Re: Pcos Posted: 02-03-06 12:34pm
Well said! I am actually trying natural
suppliments right now also. Me and my
husband are taking "fertility blend" and
all natural vitamen, and herbal pill
recommended by the doctor that did my
husbands vas. Reversal last year. We
just started taking them 10 days ago and
they say give it about 3-6 months. So
wish us luck!! Congrats on your first
baby!!!
Lisa
maisythedog
wrote:
this is for the gal who said
she couldn't get pregnant since she had
pcos (polycystic ovaries). This is not
true. I am 37, and 34 weeks pregnant
with my 1st child. I have endometriosis
(have had 6 surgeries for this) and have
pcos.
I tried to get pregnant on my own for
about 6 months. I knew with my age, that
the next step was to do something like
clomid, which I didn't feel was right for
me. I saw this awesome doctor, who's
just a gp, but really takes the time to
look at the whole picture. Basically, he
said the reason I wasn't pregnant was that
I wasn't ovulating (the pcos problem).
He tested my hormones as well. He put me
on natural hormones which were
specifically made for me by a pharmacy
that compounds. (i was put on estrogen,
testosterone, and dhea -- to bring my
levels up to the right levels. I also
took progesterone to force a regular
period.) I was also put on metformin for
the pcos, which is for insulin resistance.
I was told with this group of therapy, it
would take 3 to 6 months to get pregnant.
It took one! Once I got pregnant, I was
told to take progesterone for the first 3
months to retain the pregnancy.
I went this route because I believe there
are reasons we are having problems, and
drugs may force you to become pregnant,
but it just isn't taking care of the
actual problem. I helped my body
naturally, and I believe this is the right
thing to do. We so quickly turn to drugs
to "fix" something that really just masks
a bigger problem.
I hope this gives some hope to those of
you unable to conceive naturally. I
encourage you to look into natural ways to
help your body what it wants to
do!
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-03-06 20:34pm
Yes, I was asking--what do the .Dr's do
about this "hormonal problem." I have
been reading up on this for my daughter
and I have learned that 1 hormone can have
an effect on a lot of different hormones
in the body. And if I would have known
what hormone was at the center of my
problems, I would have not had the
depression, the weight problem, and would
not have developed diabeties. And I am
extremely impressed when you hear of a
"medical .Dr" wanting to go the "natural
route" because as you have said--chemicals
and such cause all kinds of problems and
only "cure" the "symptoms"--without taking
care of the "disease." I hate it myself,
to continually take this, take that--
just to stop the symptoms. To me that is
not medicaine, but what would they all do
if we actually all became well. Right?
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Tylanas
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Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 12984
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Posted: 02-04-06 01:58am
So, you're due in april? Meaning you
conceived in august, about? I'm going to
have to be skeptical on this just because
I have read of known cases where women
have so thoughroully convinced themselves
that they were pregnant when they were
still virgins even, that their stomachs
swelled, they had pains, and their breasts
even lactated.
Truly amazing things can happen with human
bodies, i'll admit... Still, how did the
sperm get to fatfamily's egg cell? Does
she have fallopian tubes coming from
ovaries, that just open into her abdomen?
And is her cervix or whatever entrance
there is left over from her uterus also
opened into her abdominal cavity? I'd
think that especially would cause risks,
because then technically her abdominal
cavity is open to the outside, and it
never should be!
So, semen was squirted up into her vagina,
then passed through an opening into her
ambdomen that shouldn't have been there.
She had also ovulated around that same
time (not so unimaginable) but
miraculously the egg made it's way through
her abdominal cavity, around her
intestines, and met up with the semen that
shouldn't have been able to get there in
the first place??
Then, without implanting, (or
implanting... Where? On her intestines?
An ovary? That's where i've heard they're
most likely to attatch) a placenta forms
all by itself... And then the egg does
something even more rare, and splits into
twins who, throughout the duration of this
pregnancy, glide around up into almost her
chest cavity (blocked of course by her
diaghram) and play hide-and-seek with the
u/s techs for... 5 or 6 months at this
point?
Exuse me if I sound incredulous. I'll
believe it when I see the twins, or when
her due date comes and goes, and she is
forced to confront herself, and what she
has done to herself. She's not a bad
person for doing so, if this is a mental
pregnancy. But she will have to deal with
it. And if there is a baby or two babies,
then i'll be forced to go "huh, well isn't
that neat?"
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-04-06 02:19am
I was ovulating july 8-12 (i have middle
pains--for 5 days)and did not have sex
with husband until the eve of the 9th.
So I use 9th as conception day---due april
1.
The morning of the 10th I notice a burning
sensation shooting outwards from a central
point inside of my abdomen, just above the
end of my vaginal cuff. Imagine if you
will the sun we used to draw as children.
I did not feel his semen come out for
those few days either. And I always feel
it come out, like discharge sensation, or
bleeding sensation.(sorry if .T.M.I)
how small would the hole have to be for
the semen to get into my abdomen?? Hence
the whole .God said "miracle baby." there
have only been documented 36 times in
medical history a woman who conceived
without a uterus. That is what the site
said anyway. Could be more. How did it
happen to them?? And .God created the
sperm to swim to it's destination in a
fury--to get where it is going, before
it's life span is up. And to penetrate
that egg, that is what it was created to
do. More of the .God said "miracle
baby"
he told me 18 years ago,(of this promise)
reminded me in june, exactly to the month
from when he originally told me, and I
conceived on the 9th of july. Not at all
a hard thing for .Him.
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Tylanas
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Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 12984
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Thanked:0
Posted: 02-04-06 02:28am
So, no actual scientific info to back up
your feelings... I really hope that you
get the answers you are seeking come
april.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-04-06 02:34am
Not as of yet. I hope I get it before
april--i dont think I can go that long.
Seriously. I do have a new .Dr to see
this next week if I get an appt---who
knows about this kind of pregnancy. My
.Dr has already talked to him about me, so
she suggested I see him.
Besides that, I dont need medical
(scientific) evidence, I am the one
walking around in this body--and if you
were me you would be just as certain, of
these baby's as I am, believe me. It is
unmistakable--no doubts. They are in
there. Truly. You would know too---if
it happened to you.!!!