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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-01-06 21:47pm

Just came from the .Dr's again. I think she is beginning to believe, I gave her a lot of medical things from the internet this time too. I was planning on the hormone tests coming out to my benefit--but they did not. I found that progestrone is only elevated thru the corpus luteum of pregnancy. And that is well over by now, I did suggest it 4 months ago though. The alpha feto protein only shows in certain cases, I just found that out last night when studying papers to give to .Dr. I thought it always came out in abdominal pregnancy--not true!!!

I do have good news however--she is referring me to a .Dr who is experienced in abdominal, ectopic pregnancy, while she takes a leave of absense. So good news. All my other test still come out excellant, even blood pressure. Except my sugar is high which I had begin to notice it getting very high, and has caused me to have high triglicerides, which is from the high sugars. I am back on my insulin. She explained to me that it is okay for the baby. She actually talked to me like she believes me, after me gettin on her last week. I dont know we will see.
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Surrender

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Posted: 02-01-06 21:56pm

Hey joanna, i'm so happy to hear that you've finally gotten thru to a doc. When do you go see this speciallist?
Its just so wonderful that this is all coming together for you! I never once doubted you. And obviously tests that work in normal pregs won't work for your situation!
Best of luck! I'm just sooo happy 4 ya =)

take care sweety
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-01-06 22:20pm

Thank you

i am suppose to go back in a week. I need to call tomorrow for appt.
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Surrender

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Posted: 02-01-06 22:32pm

Good to hear they;re getting you in there asap. Any idea what they're gonna check on ya or how??
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pixma

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Posted: 02-02-06 06:11am

Yyaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy!!

I'm sooo happy for you joanna!! :-)

and can I say its about time they listened to you!!!

Love shar

p.S I now know why I cant get pregnant!! My gyno diagnosed me with polycystic ovarian syndrome.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-02-06 18:51pm

I am sorry to hear that. What do they do--give you hormones to try and get pregnant with this??




They said my daughter possibly had it, they found cysts and she had very irregular periods. When she did get pregnant it was the only time she let a guy ejac in her. And now her periods are regular. I know a lot of the problems are caused from hormonal imbalance and I have been studying that a llittle for her. If all her hormones were in line I dont know--maybe she wouldnt have any of the problems--anxiety disorder, depression, sleep all the time, borderline diabetic, possible hypothyroid, and possible pcos, and impossible to loose weight and keeps gaining although she eats regular, or less than the rest of us. She eats first thing in the mornin too which is good for most pple to get their metabolism started. Helps to loose weight if you eat as soon as you get up. Most pple think if they miss meals, that is good for weight loss, but it is the exact opposite. Eating atleast 3 or 4 times a day, with healthy snacks, and smaller portions and this is how you loose weight.




Sorry kinda got off the subject. I will pray for all you girls with pcos, and or infertility issues, that you get your baby's. "that your joy might be full"

.God bless you, pixma,

always,
joanna
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pixma

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Posted: 02-03-06 05:34am

Thanks joanna, much appreciated!!!

Love shar
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Keekiluv

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Posted: 02-03-06 08:43am

I'm sorry I will continue to be skeptical, until I see the birth announcement and pictures. If she was carrying twins, there would no way that the both of them would be able to hide. I realize that I have been considered one of the so-called "mean" ones, but I am older than many of you guys that visit this site and have seen many more things than you guys have. Maybe, my beliefs have became tainted. I have seen times when there have been problems in relationships and a "pregnancy' comes about, to heal the relationships and there is a miscarriage, I have had a friend to do that. I have seen people so afraid of being pregnant that they show all the symptoms and there is no baby. I didn't want to believe that I was. I remember her saying that when she thought that she got pregnant, that she and her husband were having problems.

I'm not saying that this is actually what is going on with her, but it's something to consider. Like she has said many times, we don't know her, true, but the majority of us that visit this site are women and we all know how we women can be sometimes. If it turns out that she gives birth, I would one of the first to eat my words. Don't want anything to happen to her or none of her loved ones and I can any wish them all of the best.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-03-06 09:34am

Well, you could look at it that way, but....In my mind this is how I look at it. Every thing happens when it is suppose to happen, it was meant to happen then. Everything is dependant on something else, every action, has an equal and opposite reaction. If I had not returned to my husband--and believe me he can be a shyt--i would not be having "the miracle" right now. I have already waited 18 years for it, and if I had not returned to him, I would not be having it now. I almost coulda missed it. And possibly forever. I am no spring chicken ya know, and with all my miscarriages and births, I coulda went thru the change pretty soon and then what. I coulda never come home to him, and then what.

I had seen "the baby boy" in a vision many years before I met my husband, and when I walked into his mom's shop for the first time, I seen a picture of his sister's kid and it looked just like the boy in my vision--years before I met him. Cept my vision baby was even prettier--not that his sister's kids wasnt--cuz she is very pretty. This is what kept me hanging on with him, so many times when I felt like it would never change. It was the vision and then the picture of his sisters baby.

I do know my husband loves me, and he had a hard time believeing this, sometimes I think he still has really big doubts, after feeling it move and hearing the heartbeat and everything. Living with me and all the pains I have from it, and no sick tests can explain it either. But there is a great big part of him that has to change--still has to. And if it never happens(that he changes) I have a great deal of support from my children, they would help me to get on my feet. And help me with the baby's. I wish for us to raise him/ them together but if not I am prepared for that too. I lived 10 years in "no man's land"--so I am very independant and I can do anything I put my mind to. Period--

i can understand everything you say. But for a second just look at it this way!!!!!
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Keekiluv

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Posted: 02-03-06 10:17am

Thanks for the nice post. I can really understand where you're coming from. My pregnancy was unexpected, at a point in my life where I was ready to do other things in my life besides raise kids, which I have been doing since I was a teen. I believe it was meant to be because, I didn't find out that I was pregnant until after the time to abort it in my state, which is between 14 and 18 weeks. I had no choice but to get used to the fact that I was pregnant and in the past few weeks I have realized that this is a gift from god. I have never had the problems that you have experienced, I have never had any type of "female problems". I felt that I was too old to have another baby and when I started to read your posts, I was wondering what she is so happy about, cause she's just as old as I am and I know that the doctors have told her the risks.

We were not having any problems in our relationship and since he found out about the pregnancy, I think that things have gotten even stronger. He talks more about the pregnancy more than I do.

I am at the age to be talking about grand kids, but instead i'm about to deal with another child. Go figure it. But after all the difference that we have had joanna, i'm extending my hand out in friendship, if you accept it.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-03-06 10:58am

First thing---i get to have my children in 2 different generations--i think that is kewl. Secondly my kids and my grandkids get to share their lives together. Awesome. I have 2 1/2 year old grandson, and 1 1/2 year old grand daughter. I love it.

I accept your hand of friendship--and I appreciate that.


As far as my situation goes, after all the things I have experienced--they would have to prove to me I am wrong--and they have not done that. Even with u/s that did not show us the baby/baby's. One of the ladies with abdominal baby--they missed it in u/s because it was laying behind her stomach. And I also know they have missed twins, when confined in the uterus--with nothing other than water, and placenta in there. Besides that they move all day long now, everyday. I cant help but feel them, and the pressure, weight in there, on both sides of my body.


And believe me if they could prove me wrong--i would come and tell ya'all I had made a mistake. I have told you all everything--why would I hide that. I am not scared and I would have nothing to hide. But they have not--and will not prove me wrong. Like I have said before--if it happened to any of you--you would know too. There is no mistake, it is in there. We just gotta find someone who will actually do something. I am now 31.6weeks and believe me quarters are getting really cramped.


You know .God said ."he would send me a .Dr." the other day my gyno told me she was taking leave. She was the one who said she had talked to this .Dr who knows about abdominal pregnancy, ectopic pregnancy, and that I should go see him this next week. I think last week, when I got upset with her she finally is trying to believe me. I told her if they didnt do something soon--i was gonna call a lawyer, and I did not want my baby to come out with his head squished like the baby on the internet story. And that he is getting where he dont have hardly no room to move anymore. Like too crowded. And she needs to get something done. So, now she has talked to this other .Dr for me. Hhuumm!!!! Maybe this is the .Dr .God was talkin about. I didnt know how .He was gonna send me a .Dr, but this would be it, I am sure of it.


Im sorry ya'all, my posts are always so long. And I dont know if I said something here yet, so I might repeat myself often. Sorry.

Edit for (sp) error


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AshBoBash

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Posted: 02-03-06 11:43am

But why would god be all so mysterious and stuff about a pregnancy and send you to a bunch of doctors who cant tell if a woman is pregnant or not?
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-03-06 11:53am

ashbobash wrote:
but why would god be all so mysterious and stuff about a pregnancy and send you to a bunch of doctors who cant tell if a woman is pregnant or not?


first .God can do it anyway .He sees fit.




Secondly .God does not share .His glory with any man. He wants the world to know it was .Him and only .Him who did this for .His child. If .He is set on showing .His miraculous glory--why would he have to share it with a man, a .Dr or even anyone for that matter. .God said "a miracle baby" so what does "a miracle baby" mean to .God, maybe this is part of the miracle, going about it blind--blind faith. Maybe it is just for me--maybe my husband--so we can "believe without seeing" he says "more blessed is the man who can believe without seeing, than the man who has to see to believe"

there are alot of men who have to see to believe, but .He mostly never lets me see, before the fact. But when .He does let me see before, there is no mistaken it is .He who has spoken, or showed me a thing. He told me 18 years ago, and then in june (exactly to the month 18 years later) he reminded me of "the promise" in a dream. And by july 9th I had conceived. So actually I have seen, with great symptoms and signs also.
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MaisytheDog

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Posted: 02-03-06 12:20pm

This is for the gal who said she couldn't get pregnant since she had pcos (polycystic ovaries). This is not true. I am 37, and 34 weeks pregnant with my 1st child. I have endometriosis (have had 6 surgeries for this) and have pcos.

I tried to get pregnant on my own for about 6 months. I knew with my age, that the next step was to do something like clomid, which I didn't feel was right for me. I saw this awesome doctor, who's just a gp, but really takes the time to look at the whole picture. Basically, he said the reason I wasn't pregnant was that I wasn't ovulating (the pcos problem).

He tested my hormones as well. He put me on natural hormones which were specifically made for me by a pharmacy that compounds. (i was put on estrogen, testosterone, and dhea -- to bring my levels up to the right levels. I also took progesterone to force a regular period.) I was also put on metformin for the pcos, which is for insulin resistance.

I was told with this group of therapy, it would take 3 to 6 months to get pregnant. It took one! Once I got pregnant, I was told to take progesterone for the first 3 months to retain the pregnancy.

I went this route because I believe there are reasons we are having problems, and drugs may force you to become pregnant, but it just isn't taking care of the actual problem. I helped my body naturally, and I believe this is the right thing to do. We so quickly turn to drugs to "fix" something that really just masks a bigger problem.

I hope this gives some hope to those of you unable to conceive naturally. I encourage you to look into natural ways to help your body what it wants to do!
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lisaboo

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Posted: 02-03-06 12:34pm

Well said! I am actually trying natural suppliments right now also. Me and my husband are taking "fertility blend" and all natural vitamen, and herbal pill recommended by the doctor that did my husbands vas. Reversal last year. We just started taking them 10 days ago and they say give it about 3-6 months. So wish us luck!! Congrats on your first baby!!!

Lisa





maisythedog wrote:
this is for the gal who said she couldn't get pregnant since she had pcos (polycystic ovaries). This is not true. I am 37, and 34 weeks pregnant with my 1st child. I have endometriosis (have had 6 surgeries for this) and have pcos.

I tried to get pregnant on my own for about 6 months. I knew with my age, that the next step was to do something like clomid, which I didn't feel was right for me. I saw this awesome doctor, who's just a gp, but really takes the time to look at the whole picture. Basically, he said the reason I wasn't pregnant was that I wasn't ovulating (the pcos problem).

He tested my hormones as well. He put me on natural hormones which were specifically made for me by a pharmacy that compounds. (i was put on estrogen, testosterone, and dhea -- to bring my levels up to the right levels. I also took progesterone to force a regular period.) I was also put on metformin for the pcos, which is for insulin resistance.

I was told with this group of therapy, it would take 3 to 6 months to get pregnant. It took one! Once I got pregnant, I was told to take progesterone for the first 3 months to retain the pregnancy.

I went this route because I believe there are reasons we are having problems, and drugs may force you to become pregnant, but it just isn't taking care of the actual problem. I helped my body naturally, and I believe this is the right thing to do. We so quickly turn to drugs to "fix" something that really just masks a bigger problem.

I hope this gives some hope to those of you unable to conceive naturally. I encourage you to look into natural ways to help your body what it wants to do!
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-03-06 20:34pm

Yes, I was asking--what do the .Dr's do about this "hormonal problem." I have been reading up on this for my daughter and I have learned that 1 hormone can have an effect on a lot of different hormones in the body. And if I would have known what hormone was at the center of my problems, I would have not had the depression, the weight problem, and would not have developed diabeties. And I am extremely impressed when you hear of a "medical .Dr" wanting to go the "natural route" because as you have said--chemicals and such cause all kinds of problems and only "cure" the "symptoms"--without taking care of the "disease." I hate it myself, to continually take this, take that-- just to stop the symptoms. To me that is not medicaine, but what would they all do if we actually all became well. Right?
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Posted: 02-04-06 01:58am

So, you're due in april? Meaning you conceived in august, about? I'm going to have to be skeptical on this just because I have read of known cases where women have so thoughroully convinced themselves that they were pregnant when they were still virgins even, that their stomachs swelled, they had pains, and their breasts even lactated.

Truly amazing things can happen with human bodies, i'll admit... Still, how did the sperm get to fatfamily's egg cell? Does she have fallopian tubes coming from ovaries, that just open into her abdomen? And is her cervix or whatever entrance there is left over from her uterus also opened into her abdominal cavity? I'd think that especially would cause risks, because then technically her abdominal cavity is open to the outside, and it never should be!

So, semen was squirted up into her vagina, then passed through an opening into her ambdomen that shouldn't have been there. She had also ovulated around that same time (not so unimaginable) but miraculously the egg made it's way through her abdominal cavity, around her intestines, and met up with the semen that shouldn't have been able to get there in the first place??

Then, without implanting, (or implanting... Where? On her intestines? An ovary? That's where i've heard they're most likely to attatch) a placenta forms all by itself... And then the egg does something even more rare, and splits into twins who, throughout the duration of this pregnancy, glide around up into almost her chest cavity (blocked of course by her diaghram) and play hide-and-seek with the u/s techs for... 5 or 6 months at this point?

Exuse me if I sound incredulous. I'll believe it when I see the twins, or when her due date comes and goes, and she is forced to confront herself, and what she has done to herself. She's not a bad person for doing so, if this is a mental pregnancy. But she will have to deal with it. And if there is a baby or two babies, then i'll be forced to go "huh, well isn't that neat?"
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-04-06 02:19am

I was ovulating july 8-12 (i have middle pains--for 5 days)and did not have sex with husband until the eve of the 9th. So I use 9th as conception day---due april 1.

The morning of the 10th I notice a burning sensation shooting outwards from a central point inside of my abdomen, just above the end of my vaginal cuff. Imagine if you will the sun we used to draw as children. I did not feel his semen come out for those few days either. And I always feel it come out, like discharge sensation, or bleeding sensation.(sorry if .T.M.I)

how small would the hole have to be for the semen to get into my abdomen?? Hence the whole .God said "miracle baby." there have only been documented 36 times in medical history a woman who conceived without a uterus. That is what the site said anyway. Could be more. How did it happen to them?? And .God created the sperm to swim to it's destination in a fury--to get where it is going, before it's life span is up. And to penetrate that egg, that is what it was created to do. More of the .God said "miracle baby"

he told me 18 years ago,(of this promise) reminded me in june, exactly to the month from when he originally told me, and I conceived on the 9th of july. Not at all a hard thing for .Him.
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Posted: 02-04-06 02:28am

So, no actual scientific info to back up your feelings... I really hope that you get the answers you are seeking come april.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-04-06 02:34am

Not as of yet. I hope I get it before april--i dont think I can go that long. Seriously. I do have a new .Dr to see this next week if I get an appt---who knows about this kind of pregnancy. My .Dr has already talked to him about me, so she suggested I see him.

Besides that, I dont need medical (scientific) evidence, I am the one walking around in this body--and if you were me you would be just as certain, of these baby's as I am, believe me. It is unmistakable--no doubts. They are in there. Truly. You would know too---if it happened to you.!!!
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