Pro-choice Views

I don't understand how hard it is either. If you want to agree with us about how stupid jimmycracker is, then agree with us on the debate forum, not here. Because apparently even if I am supporting you guys, i'm not allowed to post on your board; so you're not allowed to support us here.

We really should just ignore him but he is so not understanding and so mis-lead like a lot of the pro-lifers, it is sad but yet funny and he thinks he is here to teach us that you cannot help but say something, if he would just live in this world today instead of like someone said the 1800's. He definitely has some problems!

I think they would be annoyed to find out that someone is giving away their dirty little secret -- the reason they are against abortion is because they all know they are too stupid to be alive, and if there was any way of knowing how moronic they would turn out, they would have been aborted.

I swear, it never ceases to make me roll my eyes how dumb some people can be. These forums were made for people with separate opinions, not for those fetus-humping anti-truth edit to trudge over here and preach their senseless beliefs. It's like baby-rabid parents who troll around on childfree boards - there are so many other boards for these people to rant on, and they choose the one they don't belong in. Note to you pro-lifers -- stay on your own damn board. Read what you like, but don't post your nonsense. Take questionable material to the debate forum.


But my views on abortion...Hmm, i'll be concise. Babies are ugly, smelly parasites, and we don't need anymore; surplus brats should be properly disposed of via suction before they pop out. The end. {/sarcasm}

i'd go into greater depth on my views, but i'm feeling overly lazy tonight. I think replying in this forum says enough about my position on abortion.

Well said .Jenn as usual!
Thank you!

Take a look at the following. Are these not issues that all people fight for, not just pro-lifers?

I am pro-soldier, anti-war. I want to kill those people who are protesting soldiers and the war at funerals for dead soldiers! That's absolutely inexusable!

All people care about nature, and you don't have to be pro-life to care about the environment.

Everyone worries about poverty, especially people like me who cling to the lower rungs of middle class/lower class. I think we all realise that far too much money is being spent on war, and not people.

And racism?? Christians are some of the most racist people I know. K.K.K. Anyone?

And animal cruelty is also an issue that all humans wish to prevent.

These are not pro-life issues, they are human issues.

That wasn't me who edited your post, just to let you know ;)

I agree with everything but that's the only reasons I would say I would abort. Even though I couldn't I would. Depending on the situation.
That's what I mean the law should only allow people to abort if the baby is deformed or they were raped or incest.
Just dislike when people do it for stupid things.

That isn't a pro-choice post to be honest. Placing conditions on when abortion should be allowed is restrcting the womans choice. I personally think abortion in any circumstance is acceptable, although I do feel later term abortions should only really be done for maternal health or foetal abnormailty reasons.

Well you know me moo, I sort of feel that there should be a limit on how many "i just want an abortion because i'm too lazy to use contraception" abortions should be allowed. However, it would be on a woman-to-woman basis! Some women can't use the most effective forms of birth control, and operations like hysterectomies or having your tubes tied are far more invasive and dangerous than early-term abortions.

I just want to point out a few things in the original post:



yes, most pro-choicers recognize that it is life, but what you are suggesting is that an unborn child isn't human. Human is people. The suggestion that an unborn child isn't a person is as irrational as it is to say that a mentally handicapped adult isn't a person. There are better, more convincing ways to enforce your argument than to say that an unborn child is not a person.




humans are always developing. There is no point where devlopment doesn't exist. This particular



total agreement. Pro-life's number one enemy is religion, imo. This is one of the biggest problems I find, because if a christian starts telling me that god is going to punish me for something, well that's nice for them to think, but how does their god punish me if I don't believe in him? Religion is simply an irritating drone and should not be used when debating such a wide-spread issue.




in this case you have to question the people making the decision to abort. Using abortion because you aren't ready to be a parent is a hundred times more legitamate than simply not wanting to be pregnant. I'm surprised that so few pro-choicers aren't offended by this reasoning. Like religion with pro-lifers, this makes pro-choicers sound a lot worse than most of them really are.




when a woman aborts her child without giving the father a choice, the father is most definitely hurt. Even if the child doesn't have experiences, its family has the experiences of discovering they were going to have a grandchild/neice/nephew/son/daughter/etc. There are plenty of people who are hurt when a person has an abortion. [btw, this one isn't about pro-life or pro-choice.]

a zef does not have experiences. It does no know anyone. It doesn't even have a personality yet. Babies can't even smile at birth, they don't have emotions yet.[/quote]

have you ever asked a new born how they feel about finally seeing light or being held by their parents? New born babies can't smile or even lift their head because their muscles are still developing. I used to volunteer in a maternity ward and most of the newborns who supposedly feel no emotions yet all became quite content once with their mother of father [that doesn't include feedings.]



if a person finds out they're pregnant after a raping or incest and they wait that long, I hardly think they are bothered enough by the pregnancy. It would be legitamate if it's a girl who is impregnated before her first period, but if you're going to wait that long when you know you're pregnant, that really is pushing it.




Pro-life and pro-choice have a lot of decent people and debators, but those ones are frequently drowned out by the intense number of people who simply don't know how to support this topic. Both sides have legitamate arguments, but they need to be explored much more effectively.

I think the only really uniting belief that pro-choicers needs to have is that they believe in the right to make a choice.

Regardless of what I think about abortion, I believe in the right for each woman to think about it how she wants to. I do not believe in forcing your views on anyone else.

Vehemently.

That's all that's necessary for a pro-choice stance.

I don't enjoy the idea of abortion. I would like to say that women have a much larger responsibility when it comes to sex. Not only do they have to protect themselves against STDs (which is everyone's responsibility) but they have to physically bear children. Pregnancy is a natural side effect of sex.

Having said this, though, I'm pro-choice. Included in this responsibility that women have, is the right to choose how to deal with the consequences.

Would I like to see less abortion? Of course. It is slowly becoming a means of post-birth control, and I believe that this sort of attitude towards abortion can be damaging to women's health overall. This is where being pro-choice is great. Pro-CHOICE: the choice isn't also between simply abortion or not.. there are many other CHOICES that women can make, and I would like to see other options made more easily available and easily accessible to women, in addition to more counselling and assistance to women who decide to keep their babies, despite harsh circumstances.

Anyways, I hope that was understandable!

Very! There's no rule saying you have to like abortion to be pro-choice. You just have to agree that it is the woman's choice. I for one also wish there were fewer abortions, and I hope that with better birth control and sexual education this can happen.

My pro choice beliefs have become stronger with time.

I don't believe in placing restrictions on abortion either in terms of reason or gestation.

As far as contraception is concerned, again i believe that is the woman's CHOICE so long as she realises that it can potentially mess up her body and fertility by having numerous abortions, better that than needlessly popping out more children if she doesn't want them.

Also its not the abortion rate that i want to reduce, rather lowering the amount of unwanted pregnancies should be the priority THEN the abortion rate would naturally come down anyway.