Some of these people are really low and need help, and even if you believe that help needs to come from god, people know where the church is if they want to try that, this is for human, flesh and blood advice.

Well, since .God is the creater of all, and our "best" chance for healing and health--why not give the pple reading the posts the chance to decide if they would want .His help or not??? Maybe this is just the help they need, who is to say when a person will find himself in need of .God's help. What if he has cancer and .God is the only healing he will ever receive, or .God forbid he is on deaths door, and needs salvation. These little words of faith or examples of someone else getting a miracle from .God might be his only chance to die, and go to heaven--instead of hell. Who are you to say he dont deserve the chance to "choose" for himself what he wants to hear. Every one else is screaming--"my choice I dont want to hear it," but what about the guy who says, "my choice I wanna hear something good." something with faith in it, with truth in it, something tangible to hold onto.(like a miracle healing, or the best miracle of all salvation!!!) something to help my discouragement and only .God can do that. Only .God can. How can any of you be an expert on something you know nothing about. If you did know anything about healing, prosperity, love, joy, and peace which only .God can give you---you would not even think these things.

i am not speaking on something I do not know about.I do know about it because I am religous.You are right in what you say fatfamily,but I am talking about people running around shoving their beliefs down others throats and using god to make them feel bad for what they have done,when all they have done is come here for help.There is nothing wrong with religion,its how you use it and what you say to others.

I voted no but they are going to anyway, their are too many religions and it just turns into a fight or a debate and that is when we stop helping and the forum starts going down the tube, just my opinion. If they want a god forum they can do one separately.

Hey fatfamily02 how was the tests and what did the dr say?

You would be right if all religious people do on these forums would be to make themselves available, and offer the right to choose, but instead they judge other people and exacerbate their problems. Who do they think they are to judge other human beings?

Your right,if they are so religous,don't they stop to think that god does not judge,so why should they? And even more,use him against others in their judgements!God loves everyone (don't mean to offend anyone who doesn't believe in him) so there should be no judgments made

well I have posted on this topic once already in another forum..I kind of find this thread stupid because for one ...There is always going to be a fight about religion..Mainly because everyone has their own beliefs...And posting this thread only brings arguments up ...Because just like I said everyone isnt going to agree on the same exact thing..Religion will be brought onto every forum weather it be this one or another one...Because there are people who live day to day by the bible and there are others who believe nothing the bible says...I think its alright to post what you belive in but not bash others for what they do/dont believe in ..Weather religion is allowed on this forum or not ..It will still stay..Just like profanity/name calling ..Its not allowed but you still see it ..Its life and thats the way it is

There is a major difference between god and the people who claim to speak on his behalf. These people do a double disservice. First, they promote things that are not true as true. Second, because they do it in god's name, they actually turn people off god, which is contrary to their stated purpose. You do believe that god is all powerful, don't you? So let him do what he will. Besides, religious argument is off topic and not appropriate in this forum.

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i do not think this thread is off topic thank you very much.If this thread if inappropriate for this site than people bashing others with their beliefs is 10 times as bad! I hate going into forums and seeing people do this to people looking for help.And no,i do not say anything to them about it,that is why I created this thread!

you have like 2 post on this forum..How do you even know about how this forum is for one..And for two ..Religion will be brought up in life..You just have to deal with it..Religion can be ruled out on this forum ..But you will still see it..People dont just drop what they believe in ..Because someone else thinks they shouldnt be allowed to post it..Life isnt that simple and if it were then we wouldnt even have different religions because everyone would believe in the same things...

Has god magically cured aids?.... I didnt think so

Well this is for all of those who still believe in sex only after marriage... Emm.. Get with the times, ppl dont wait anymore. A recent poll showed that 90% of all teenagers have sex before marriage. Clealy there has been a shift from the religious dominance of past centuries. Personaly im not a very religious person, simply because im more science oriented but im not going to post here to argue one side or the other. The simple point is that religion has lost its once constricting self. The few people in this forum who try to continue to force this view are anomolies who are fighting a losing battle. With the growing new generation religion will continually diminished.

Good day to u all

i dont get where everyone thinks that just because people speak of god means that they are so religious...I have went to church before maybe 50 times out of my whole life..And I still talk about god sometimes..As much as you think religion will deminish ..I very seriously doubt that..Just because most of this world is full of garbage...Doesnt mean that the good wont survive..Plus I think the earth will blow up before all good is gone ..I dont think god would let all evil take over .. Good day to you also :wink: oh yeah not to mention..You are a very negative person..If everyone were like you then the world would probably end tomorrow..

i think ur misunderstanding my point. The end of religion has nothing to do with the end of the world or the survival of the "good." religion will fade not because the world is full of garbage, but because more and more poeple have become educated. Higher scientific knowledge leads to doubt to the "belief" in a mystical being. Like I said im not here to argue against religion, in fact I believe that everyone should have a right to hope in something. I will stress that the new generation has a greater view of the world and therefore will rely less on prayer. I am not a negative person at all, in fact I find that without religion there would be much less conflict in the world. Did u know that over a 2 billion people in history have died in the "name of god." that countless battles and empires falled in the name of god. There are those that are complaning about the war in iraq and yet they forget histoy and all the death that religioun has caused. I guess not everyone is keeping up with the books...

yes, .He has, only .He has. On benny hinn I have seen it and he goes back for medical proof of the miracles that happen in his church. Also seen a women one time with what her .Dr's called a dead fetus, and it sprang back to life in one of his crusades. ""nothing is impossible with .God," "if you only have faith the size of a mustard seed"

you cant honestly believe in that caca do u? Its simple propoganda for naive people. A dead fetus can not spring back to life.... Miracles dont happen in church.. Dont tell u believe that somone blind can walk into a church and have his sight back ?? Or a cancer victum can pray and the disease would simply go away?

yes, I do believe, my .God is a good .God, and .He is merciful and longsuffering.

You know it is people like you that stand in the way of progress.. Simply holding to a belif that thing could happen if you pray instead of really pursuing a scientific or technological breakthrough.. With all the money that is spend on church or religion.. Do you know what could have been done?? All of that progress lost.. Because u think that some magicial being is secretly healing people...

I agree with ergit.
Im an atheist and beleive religion is a curse upon the world.
Im a medical student so obviously my beliefs are biased in the name of science. The more I learn about science (especially in medicine) the less and less I believe in the existance of a 'god'. We are studying and understanding exactly how bodies operate and how they have developed over time to be as complex as they are today.
Religious stories can often be ridiculous- noahs ark anyone? U wanna get millions of species on a boat? What about t rex and the other dinosaurs? Those are some big animals!
Thats just one example obviously.. But religious fundamentalism is the reason the world is so messed up right now.