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i can't help but laugh at you.

I'm going to assume i'm the "obsessed" pro-lifer your talking about. Lol
let me burst your bubble. Abortion is evil. It terminates the life, the life of your very own child. Would you ever kill someone? Do you think the killing lacy peterson was responsible and good? Of course not. The only reason you edit feel abortion is ok is because you like to argue that the woman's so called "rights" are more important than the childs right to live. Because she is born. Haha.....Because she is born. What a moronic argument. But we wouldn't expect anything intelligent from pro-choice left edit.

Yes, you are saying to abort to make the boyfriend happy. The "rifts" you refer to would be caused by his unhappiness from the girlfriend keeping the child. So yes, that is what your saying w/o you even realizing it. Don't give me the "child he doesn't want". He could have kept his penis in his bungerees dear. He can be a loser and not take responsiblity once the baby is born, or he can be a loser and preach to her to kill the baby. Either way, he's a total loser, just like the woman choosing the abortion. The wrong choice here is abortion, I don't give a flying fanny who you are.

I don't think any more needs to be said... Cambion has explained the pro-choice view, and the pro-lifer has come back with the same old argument. No matter how many advantages or reasons we cite for allowing abortions, pro-lifers have only one rebuttal: "it's killing! Waaah!"

lots of things die all of the time. That argument does not work. Find a new one.

That is right, the fetus could die in the womb or be stillborn, who is to say, who is to say that it will continue through the pregnancy or will be brain dead, or will be missing organs and some organs cannot be replaced, their are times that the pregnant female is doing the fetus the right thing and some of you do not understand why, why should a baby be brought in this world to suffer, just to sit their and watch them die. That is selfish! You have no idea what alot of kids are going thru, some go through total hell here on earth and I did not say all. I would be like to be able to say that all kids are treated great but I do not lie! That is why I am glad their is a choice!

Oh crap, I didn't mean to make this a new topic. Sorry, guys.

sunshine mentioned abortion is done by all walks of life and that is true. Poor and rich people. How do you explain why someone rich would have an abortion? Sure the baby is not going to lack milk or nany's cause momy can afford all that. But they do.

Life is full of surprises. You may have a kid that you thought to abort once and you be 60 years old with a cancer and that child might have be the one taking care of you through it. A baby that you might thought to abort could well have been an important surgeon, scientist, politician that could have make you proud for years to come. You can go in life having to experience seeing a child of yours die at a young age and be very grateful you did not aborted the baby you thought to abort once. My mom for one regrets she did not had 3 children after my brother died as now I am the only child. Interesting to read woman who abort to feel happy about terminating their pregancy compared to when you do have a pregancy that you wanted loosing that child is the most horrible experience you could ever possibly have in life. It is worst than being on a wheel chair.

or the children that you had, years later, once you were happily married, could be taking care of you. What-if-ing yourself to death is stupid, as stupid as wishing to go back in time and change what you've done. Both will never achieve anything but causing you stress.



only if you believe in fate, which I don't.



uh, of course losing a wanted child is a horrible experince, and getting rid of an unwanted one is a relieving experience. And i'd have to agree that losing a wanted child is worse than being a paraplegic.

A rich person might have an abortion because they just plain and simply don't have the time they know they would need to give a child in order to love it properly. They also don't have the time to take off to be pregnant and give birth. They're just too busy, making money and being rich. Greedy sounding? Maybe, but that is one reason they might. They know that, in order to sustain their current level in life, they can't take off the time to raise a child.

You know eiri it does sound to me that you defend abortion so much because you are definetly scare to death if you get prego now hehehe

no, the fetus has the same and just as much rights as the person born. I think abortion is wrong because it kills a human being. Killing is wrong. If you do not think abortion is wrong then you see nothing wrong in killing. Period. There is not arguing against that so drop it.

that's all the rebuttal we need judy. What do you want us to say? It's not ellaborate, what we believe. It is not an opinion, what abortion is. It's the simple fact that it is killing. What part can you possibly dispute? Ironic that you say we have the same old argument. But you don't? The edit that a baby does not have rights because it is not "born" yet. How edit "get a new one"!

did you just call me "judy"? Why? Do you think that's my name or something? You're wrong. Just as you are wrong about my views of the fetus. I do not view it as a complete human, since it cannot think, breath, etc, for itself. It does not have the capacity to do so yet, (unlike an unconscious person).

Also, its life is not as worthy as the life of the born woman who has it inside of her. She is the mother, she is in charge.

"judge judy". You said rebuttal. Never mind.....

Anyhow, I already knew you were going to preach the "breathing, thinking" blah blah argument. What's new? Still a human, still has as many rights as a born woman, or...At least it should. But I guess as long as abortion is tolerated, the baby really doesn't. So you win. Happy? :roll:

If it has the same rights by your logic.... Born people are not allowed to use other peoples bodily functions in order to surivive, so why should a fetus? We are not required to donate organs just because someone else will die, nor are we required to donate blood. Born persons are not allwoed this so why should a fetus be allowe dthis as well?

Human life: this is any living entity that has dna from the species homo sapiens. 9 this includes an ovum, spermatozoon, zygote, embryo, fetus, newborn. It also includes an infant, child, adult, elder. It also includes a breast cancer cell and a hair follicle and a skin scraping. Some forms of human life, like ova and spermatozoa, are generally considered to have little or no value. Others, like a newborn or infant, are generally considered to be extremely valuable; their life is important to preserve.


I dont mean what im writing in this context so open ur mind

a newborn baby has the right to live because it it is not feeding off a host as to where a fetus does not have a right till it separates at birth and become it own unique person.


What is homicide: is the taking of the life of another human being through the initiation of physical force. Abortion is not homicide, because a fetus is not a human being -- (it is a potential human being, i.E. It is part of the woman. The concept homicide only applies to the initiation of physical force used to destroy an actual human being, i.E., such as when "pro-life" terrorists bomb abortion clinics.

Im not for abortion but I am not against it but what really ifs me is when these ppl can sit and kill others they are just as bad, what right do you have to judge someone for getting an abortion.

I too am against these women that judge women for getting an abortion, especially when thy do not know the reason and do not try to understand the reason and actually it is none of their business anyway, the females had an abortion because they did what was right at the time. How many other people excluding abortion and heavy-duty such as killing, robbing or stealing or bad stuff like that did what they did things or made wrong decisions at the time whether it be right or wrong and figured out later that it was the correct decision. My opinion is is that you cannot kill some thing that is not born yet because their are times that they are not alive in the womb, when they are born, you cut that cord, they cry, then they are a baby.

Heck, even some pro-life end up getting an abortion but I do not judge them either, it is still their choice, most of us are to pro-choice to a certain point but I feel they should not walk around preaching that they are pro-life but I guess that is their choice.

a prisoner does not have all the rights you do. Do you think his life is more worthy than yours? What about a 10 year old with a gun on a battlefield who is about to shoot you? Do you shoot him first?

Life, even human life, has values. Some are less worthy than others, either because they have comitted crimes, are trying to kill you, or not yet fully developed.

Yes, I am happy that I am free.

because you gave the life to the fetus.

so you can take it away, before it is developed enough to think for itself, or feel, and thus has no say in what you do to it.

yes! I was just about to type the same thing. You "read my words"! Haha
so your saying the fetus does not have the right to live because it feeds off the mother "host"? The mother put that child there. It wasn't put there against her will unless she was raped. Bad argument diamond, sorry.