Okay I know this is a question I really
should be talking to my ob about and on
monday (my next appointment) I will...But
untill then I wanted to know what you guys
know (if you know anything about what I am
going to ask)...
Basically I am planning on doing my labour
drugless...I don't really believe in drugs
unless they are absolutely needed...But
lately i've been worrying that I will have
to get a c-section. I know that they have
two forms of anesthesia (local and
general)...But I am totally afraid of
having an epidural and I know that, that
is how they adminster the most common form
of anesthesia, and I was just wondering
how often they would gas you or whatever
to put you "under" for the surgery...If I
ask them to do it, would they do it? Or
can they say no and force me to have the
epidural form?? Lol thanks for your
answers I am freaking out,lol.
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Tamadrummer
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Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 01-13-06 06:51am
Almost never for c-section. It has to be
a really complex situation for you to be
put under general anesthesia.
I understand that it is you choice to go
it without medication to assist with pain
control durring labor but you may want to
do some research and speak with your
ob/gyn about the advantages for you and
the baby when you get the epidural
anesthesia.
Our doc showed us study after study done
in the birthing world showing the benefits
to having good pain control, it doesnt
harm the baby and it actually cuts the
labor/delivery by more than 2 hours and
also allows for emrgency procedures to be
done in an expiditious manner because they
are not trying to administer meds while
preping you for c-section.
What is it that is making you think that
you may have to have a c-section vs.
Vaginal delivery?
Also, please do not feel like I am trying
to change your mind about epi vs. Non
epi, I am just curious to know what led
you to the decision to go it alone.
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diamondsz
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Posted: 01-13-06 07:37am
I went natural kimmeh
I actually had a short labor for a first
time mom as well 4hrs 22 mins, I loved it
I think the worst part was when the
contractions were overlapping and I had
that for about 30 mins. I'm due in 20
days with my second and im going to try
and go natural again dr said I probally
only have about 2hrs this time around
worse case ill get entonox (gas) or a shot
of demerol. I spoke to my dr about the
what ifs of c-section cause like you I
dont want an epidural and he said its
possible but with certain conditions that
I dont eat/drink 8 hrs prior and if if its
and emergency c-section. Ask your dr
cause they all have different opinions on
childbirth, I found that by actually
getting an epidural it slows down the
process of childbirth if given to early or
prolongs pushing stage in which case they
end up giving you more meds.
okay I know this is a
question I really should be talking to my
ob about and on monday (my next
appointment) I will...But untill then I
wanted to know what you guys know (if you
know anything about what I am going to
ask)...
Basically I am planning on doing my labour
drugless...I don't really believe in drugs
unless they are absolutely needed...But
lately i've been worrying that I will have
to get a c-section. I know that they
have two forms of anesthesia (local and
general)...But I am totally afraid of
having an epidural and I know that, that
is how they adminster the most common form
of anesthesia, and I was just wondering
how often they would gas you or whatever
to put you "under" for the surgery...If I
ask them to do it, would they do it? Or
can they say no and force me to have the
epidural form?? Lol thanks for your
answers I am freaking
out,lol.
i'm not sure yo can just ask to be put
out. I had a s-sec and had the epi plus
some other numbing drugs -don't know the
name. But another friend had one and was
freaking out so bad they put her under.
I think it's harder that way as you go to
sleep and then you wake up and there's a
baby, you might end up feeling
disconnected to your child. I find
people with c-secs feel more disconnected
to the baby anyway but more so if you are
knocked out.
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Tamadrummer
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 01-13-06 08:02am
I am going to try to call my wife's ob
today so I can get the sites that the
study data is kept at. I know when you
look at individual cases like we get here,
i.E. Person to person, you will get very
biased info because what happens to one
person is total reality and so validity
cannot be debated.
I do know that in the case of a study of
thousands of women in labor, that epidural
meds cut more than 2 hours off labor and
also allowed for certian procedures to be
done without having to wait for
anesthesia.
For instance my wife had a 50ml push of
prestacaine 5 mins prior to delivery so
the doc could do the episeotomy and she
did not feel anything because they were
able to put the meds into her epi and we
just kept on coaching while the docs
worked in the background.
It is something to give serious thought to
and if you decide no meds, this is your
baby and your pregnancy and that is
totally your choice. No one will judge
you wither way because both methods are
well accepted.
(children are lucky men don't have babies,
I would want general and then a week to
recover.... Lol 8)
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diamondsz
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Posted: 01-13-06 08:22am
Brian, I was reading on epidural and alot
the cases that ppl got it they ended up
needing a episiotomy which is unecessary
and has more chance of infection over
stitches. Im not trying to knock you
cause I believe woman should have the
right to pain relief cause not everyone
has the same level of pain tolerance.
So yes an epidural takes the pain away
but alot of the ppl who had one done
needed medical intervention compared to
the ones who went natural or with smaller
versions of pain meds. Every dr has
different beliefs some believe natural
birth is awesome while some believe a
medicated birth is best for mother and
baby so it really depends on the person.
Basically all im saying is your ob-gyn
could say one thing and mine another all
based on their opinion and your safety.
Hard choice I know but you will make it no
matter what happens
take care
jess
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Tamadrummer
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 01-13-06 08:39am
Here is one study to help out and I am
looking for others as well. This one is
extremely informative as to what happens
if/when. Easy to follow chart is also in
the link that is labled summary chart.
Thank you everyone for replying. As for
my decision not to use drugs, it is just
my own personal decisionnot to use them,
i've never liked putting anything into my
body unless I absolutely have needed too,
and since a lot of women have done labour
naturally and it's only one day of your
entire life, it isn't really needed (just
how I see things, not that I am knocking
drugs for anyone else, I respect people
who choose to use some sort of pain
control method) unless of course you go
for a c-section. There isn't a real
reason for my concern about getting a
c-section, just the fact that I really
don't want one, and I really don't like
the idea of a needle being placed into my
spine.
here is one study to help
out and I am looking for others as well.
This one is extremely informative as to
what happens if/when. Easy to follow
chart is also in the link that is labled
summary chart.
thanks for the statistics
tamadrummer...But to me the cons outweigh
the pros. I'd rather just not risk any
harm to myself or my baby (i worry a
lot)...To me i'd rather take the couple
hours extra of pain then have her heart
rate drop. Plus even though it is unsure
why exactly it still shows that mothers
who choose an epideral are more likely to
need a c-section. I feel that going
natural (for me and my baby) is the best
way to go. But thanks again!!
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Tamadrummer
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 01-13-06 16:18pm
You are welcome, I just wanted to provide
a fact based study so you could make a
well educated choice. And yes, when given
at the wrong time, the cons far outweigh
the pros.
Nicole did not get hers until she was 6mm
dialted and -2, and 95% effaced.
She had a good experience with the meds
although the baby was face up instead of
face down. She would have him crown and
he would slide right back up, that is why
we needed the episiotomy, the umbilical
was double wrapped around his neck and his
arm was across his neck holding his
shoulder so he was determined he wasn't
coming out.... ;) but with Dr. Mcnulty
on the job, we got him out.
I was so against beng in the room and once
I was in there, I could never ever imagine
not being right there with her, I got to
cut the cord and put the clip on and I
kind of forced my way in and cleaned him
up and put his first diaper on and
everything and then brought him to momma
and it was soooooo cool!
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Perineal Massage Prior to Labor... Posted: 01-13-06 18:09pm
This is my 1st child and I also want to go
"naturally." me and my fiance have just
started the "perineal massage." statistics
say that a 'tear' is actually better, in
some cases, than a cut. Like mentioned,
because of the infection. I might
schedule an epidural in case of an
emergency and not being able to have it
administered. (i.E an emergency
c-section.) I kinda threw it out there to
my doc and he said that more than half of
his patients go drugless. As also was
mentioned, the level of pain toleration in
each different woman.
I am so glad that there are people out
there that look at having a drug free
birth as something that can be done.
Everyone I know is so negative about it
and they say how bad it hurts...But I use
that as my ammo. To strive to get through
labor without drugs to show that it might
be painful, but it is possible! I am
very optimistic that my peri neal massage
will help me with a drug free vaginal
birth of my baby!!
Re: Perineal Massage Prior to Labor... Posted: 01-13-06 20:11pm
babymajic0506
wrote:
this is my 1st child and I
also want to go "naturally." me and my
fiance have just started the "perineal
massage." statistics say that a 'tear' is
actually better, in some cases, than a
cut. Like mentioned, because of the
infection. I might schedule an epidural
in case of an emergency and not being able
to have it administered. (i.E an
emergency c-section.) I kinda threw it out
there to my doc and he said that more than
half of his patients go drugless. As
also was mentioned, the level of pain
toleration in each different woman.
I am so glad that there are people out
there that look at having a drug free
birth as something that can be done.
Everyone I know is so negative about it
and they say how bad it hurts...But I use
that as my ammo. To strive to get
through labor without drugs to show that
it might be painful, but it is possible!
I am very optimistic that my peri neal
massage will help me with a drug free
vaginal birth of my baby!!