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exxon

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Thanks
Posted: 04-17-07 18:29pm

I think it does seem likely that I will ask to be referred to a urologist next time I see my doctor (which is next week in any case). At the moment I am trying to dry out the red inflammation that I have near the ridge of where the bottom of the glans meets the foreskin. This is apparently not the "normal rubbing" that I used to think it is but apparently a whole medical condition caused by a yeast infection and is called balanitis. I have to hold out the foreskin down to dry out the area but I can feel my frenulum protesting at the tension as I do it.
If you are wondering why the hell I am drying it out, I got the instructions here:
http://www .stdservices.on.net/std/balanitis/facts.ht m
Yours
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Breve

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Posted: 04-26-07 10:09am

wubbbajubba wrote:
Hey all,

I believe I have this condition known as frenulum brevity (breveity?). I can pull my foreskin back just fine while non-erect, but once erect it barely goes back at all, being held by the "frenulum". From everything I've heard, it sounds like this condition. I have no problem, ahem, spanking the monkey, however I am concerned this could interfere with future sexual relationships. About treatment, in the UK, how would you go about getting this treated? Would you see your GP, or go directly to a urinary health place?

Thanks loads

Edit: R.e. the operations described above, how bad is the anesthetic injection? You say it's not bad, but I am a self professed wimp. Cheers


well most of your answers are in this thread already

but as for the the injection I can't really help you cuz I had some sort of anaesthetising gel applied, so no needle whatsoever Smile
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exxon

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Anyone Been Offered Frenuloplasty On the Nhs?
Posted: 04-26-07 14:07pm

It looks like there are a couple of Brits around here
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CarlUK

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Re: Anyone Been Offered Frenuloplasty On the Nhs?
Posted: 05-17-07 15:45pm

exxon wrote:
It looks like there are a couple of Brits around here


I just got a referral from my GP but it will be done privately through insurance... The GP didn't have any problem, but then he wouldn't be too worried since it's not NHS.

There's a good article that was published in the Guardian (htt p://www.guardian.co.uk/health/story/0,3605 ,659196,00.html), the guy had one done and describes how it all went. He did it privately as he couldn't wait. I'm having the same urologist at the beginning of June, let's see how it all goes - I find it a bit scary!
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Bren86

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Posted: 05-17-07 20:50pm

I went to the docters about 1 month ago about my tight foresking and frenelum breve and he referred me to a urologist and I go to see the urologist next week. Is the urologist likely to do anything about my condition next week or will they just check it out and book me another apointment if necersarry. I'm not sure if they will do anything to the foreskin but the frenulum breve is one for them to look at for sure as maybe once the frenulum is gone my foreskin may loosen up over time.
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CarlUK

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Posted: 05-18-07 17:46pm

Bren86 wrote:
...Is the urologist likely to do anything about my condition next week or will they just check it out and book me another apointment if necersarry...

Well, I guess that depends on the urologist. I know mine will do it the first time I go if confirmed, but then he's seen a picture and has had an idea... I was quite surprised to hear they could do all in one go, I guess it's a sign it's not a complicated procedure.
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j3

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Posted: 05-22-07 18:39pm

how long did it take from first going to the doctors to the op? and is it easier going private, i have a problem booking an appointment because my doctors such a a patrionising pratt its unreal. would love to by pass him if possible! although im guessing this is an impossible feit
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Røyksopp

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Posted: 06-26-07 13:38pm

I'd like to just say that the whole 'rip your frenulum and it'll regenerate back to its initial state' is a bunch of bollocks, i've ripped mine myself a little bit and each time it just heals and there's a bigger and bigger gap/cavity there, i hope that eventually i'll be able to pull down the foreskin all the way. Funny thing is, i asked my GF to do this for me (so it would feel more normal for me) with both her vagina (rough and fast sex) or just pulling down with her hands but none worked at all...and she pulled down alot harder than i do.. Confused
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sxxxcboi

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My Experience
Posted: 09-01-07 04:42am

Okay, ive had this problem for a while, bit my frenelum doesn turn white it stays red, but, my actual foreskin has a tight thin ring around it...

will this go away if i get a frenoplasty?

I have seen a doctor and m seeing a paediatrician soon...


plz answer tnx! Smile
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WHOOPS

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Frenoplasty
Posted: 09-05-07 11:36am

Hi All,

Have been reading other comments, my frenulum initially ripped over a year ago (rough sex blood everywhere Crying
or Very sad ) but i must say as i decided to put this off and not go to my GP (stupid male pride) this was definatley the wrong idea.

I left it for a month my g/f was very supportive (once i told her, she knew somthing was up or down hahah) Very
Happy

After a short break from sex we decided to give it a go, as first no probs but eventually it ripped again, not as much blood thou, after this time she told me to get it seen too, but i didn't straight away i left it again, now i have found out that this is probably the worst thing you can do as everytime it healed it was scar tissue which is not a flexible as normal tissue and it breaks very easily.

So if you think you've got a problem just go to the docs (you'll get over the embarrisment) it was a huge weight off my shoulders i got my appointment with the specialist in early October, im a bit worried but i only wished i had swallowed my pride and gone earlier.

I'll let you know how i get on,

Here's to the future and painfree sex (eventually) i hope

Whoops
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jorge_nirvana619

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Hey
Posted: 09-25-07 23:31pm

hey well im 14 my penis is not circumsied i have like da string connected from the bottom of my head to the inner skin i think is called frenulum i had sex once but da girls vagina was kinda loose lol but what if i have sex with a virgin would my frenulum strech back and pop would i bleed?
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dandaman841

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Posted: 08-12-08 07:08am

hi!!!
im scared of going to the doctors because i would have to tell my mum and it would be very embarrising i know i have this frenulum breve and i dont know what to do someone please help me?
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Breve

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Posted: 08-12-08 07:20am

Don't be ashamed of it! I know it's not so easy telling this to your parents, but it's best to take care of this asap! You'll be happy you did later Wink
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andthecircusleavestown

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hey
Posted: 09-12-08 05:39am

looks like im going to have to have this done, how much did it cost to have it done privately? i live in the UK
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insearchoftheavatar

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The return of the Frenulum Breve
Posted: 09-15-08 12:40pm

Hey guys,
Thank god for the internet; I finally know what's wrong with my penis. So, My 'banjo' is tight and for years I was not able to pull my foreskin over the little head. However, over the last two months, twice while I was having sex with this girl, because she was not so wet, the harshness of the vagina against my penis rolled the tight foreskin hole over my penis. The first time was a month and a half ago, and within minutes, the foreskin automatically rolled back covering my naked penis.
However, last night when I had sex the same thing happened, yet this time, my foreskin did not automatically roll over the head. It's actually stopped half way. I am trying to gently nudge and squeeze the rest of my little head into the foreskin, but I have had no luck for the last 24 hours.
There is no blood whatsoever, and blood has never come out, nothing's ripped. But right now, my tight foreskin is squeezing half of the head of my penis and it's damn uncomfortable.
I was hoping someone could give me some tips as to how to alleviate the situation and help me get the foreskin either to fully cover the head or pull it over. Now, it's seriously stuck halfway and is squeezing the head.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Apologies for the length of this post, but I'm kinda suffering right now.
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insearchoftheavatar

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useful summary
Posted: 09-15-08 14:33pm

SKIN STRETCHING AS A CURE FOR PHIMOSIS

INTRODUCTION
Many young men come to internet sites seeking help for tight foreskin problems. Often doctors have told them that they “must” be circumcised. There are other ways of dealing with this problem and circumcision should only be used as a last resort in a very small number of cases, not as a first option treatment. I and others, on various health boards have guided many young men to a cure using simple stretching exercises.
Stretching will usually cure the problem in a shorter time than it would take to fully recover from a circumcision. It leaves the patient with their entire penis, preserving about 15 square inches of elastic, nerve-rich, erogenous tissue and of course, saves the patient from the pain and discomfort of surgery. The foreskin has a unique gliding action used by most males to masturbate with and its lubricating action has been claimed to make sex smoother and more enjoyable for female partners too. The foreskin is worth preserving. If stretching should fail a dorsal slit (though not very cosmetic), frenuloplasty, removal of just the tight band or a circumcision can be done at any time. Should stretching not work all that is lost is a little time and effort. If the stretching is done properly and regularly and not too fast then most men seem to succeed.

DISCLAIMER
I am not a doctor and these notes are here only as a peer-support guide. This information is in no way intended to replace necessary consultations with a qualified medical practitioner. Should you experience any painful problems consult a foreskin-friendly doctor. Should your foreskin get stuck behind the glans when you are erect and you are unable to move it forward, as in the Paraphimosis section below, seek immediate medical aid.

ANATOMY
The penis has a number of structures that you should know about before you start. The head of the penis is called the glans. The groove round the edge of the glans is called the sulcus. The foreskin is also called the prepuce. It is attached under the pee hole or meatus by a y-shaped piece of skin called the fraenulum or frenulum (US spelling). The fraenulum is similar in structure to the one under the tongue and has an important sexual function. The fraenular band is the tight bit at the foreskin opening that is being stretched in this case. There are plenty of web pages that explain penile anatomy.

PHIMOSIS
Phimosis or tight foreskin may be mild or severe. Some men can retract their foreskin easily when their penis is flaccid (soft) but experience difficulty when erect. Others describe “pin hole phimosis” where the opening is so tight that they can only see a tiny bit of their glans even when they pull back their foreskin as far as they can.
Stretching has been used to cure even severe phimosis.

TIGHTENING AND/OR TEARS DEVELOPING IN A PREVIOUSLY NORMAL FORESKIN
Most Phimosis is something that the male has lived with since birth and this is the sort that these instructions were designed for. When a foreskin suddenly tightens up or starts to develop tears easily the usual culprit is a yeast or fungal infection. These sorts of infections can be caught from normal living but can also be passed on sexually. Therefore sexual partners should be treated too and condoms should be worn to prevent cross infection, until both partners are clear. These infections can usually be treated with pharmacy over-the-counter creams and sometimes an oral pill as well. The creams are designed for women's genitals and so are safe on male genitals too.
DO NOT attempt to stretch if you have a thrush (yeast) or fungal infection. The tears that develop can cause scar tissue to form and may cause permanent damage that makes stretching extremely difficult. If scar tissue has formed then Betamethasone is fairly necessary if any stretching is to succeed.
Recurrent yeast infections may sometimes be related to diabetes.

WHY BOTHER TO STRETCH
Although some men manage to have reasonably normal sex lives with phimosis there are some disadvantages to having a non-retractable foreskin.
Firstly it is hard to clean and may smell. The body produces a natural, white, cheesy substance called smegma that collects under the foreskin and in the folds of female genitalia. Smegma is a natural lubricant and usually does no harm. But it is susceptible to infections that can cause pain and/or odours. This can be a real turn off for a sexual partner. Infections can also cause pain and eventually scarring of the foreskin.
Secondly having sex with the foreskin forward reduces sexual sensations, especially when wearing a condom as well.
Thirdly many men with tight foreskins complain that sex without a condom is painful as the foreskin may be forced back during sex causing painful over-stretching of the foreskin opening.

BETAMETHASONE
You can ask your doctor to prescribe Betamethasone 0.1% or 0.05% ointment. A tiny amount of this ointment can be applied to the tight part of the foreskin, ie. the opening of the foreskin when it is in the forward position. It will speed up the stretching process but won’t do anything on its own, without the stretching exercises. Stretching will still work without the ointment, just more slowly.

STRETCHING TECHNIQUE ONE
If the foreskin is very tight the simplest method is to pull back on the skin (easiest with an erection) so that the opening feels tight and a bit uncomfortable without real pain. Hold that for a few minutes and repeat a few times. Do this a couple of times a day. You will find that soaking in a warm bath will make the skin softer and easier to stretch.
The major disadvantage with this method occurs when some stretching has been achieved or if the phimosis was mild to begin with. Once the opening is big enough to just fit over the rim of the glans when erect the foreskin is at risk of getting stuck behind it. If this happens a condition know as paraphimosis may develop.
This is why stretching technique two is probably better once the foreskin opening is big enough to make it almost possible to slide the foreskin back over the glans.

PROBLEMS?
If the opening becomes sore, or develops splits, stop for a few days and let things heal up. Going at it too fast will only slow things down in the end. Sometimes splits and tightness are due to a fungal or yeast (thrush) infection. Treatment with an antifungal / anti-yeast cream designed for women’s genitals will usually fix this problem. I’ve also seen reports of success with a Hydrocortisone / anti-fungicide mix like “Fungocort”.

PARAPHIMOSIS
Paraphimosis occurs when the foreskin gets stuck behind the glans of an erect penis, trapping the blood that causes the erection in the glans and causing swelling of the foreskin itself. If the foreskin becomes stuck squeeze the head of the penis firmly to force the blood out and try and ease the foreskin forward. Perhaps soaking in the bath or using an oil-based lotion will make this easier. If after many tries you still can’t do this see a doctor or go to a hospital emergency room fast. This is not a common problem but you should be warned of the danger.

STRETCHING TECHNIQUE TWO
The second stretching technique can be best illustrated by this photograph. You can either grab each side of the foreskin opening and gently pull on each side of the opening, suckers in the photograph or, even better, insert the ends of two fingers, even the little fingers and pull them gently apart. Stretch the opening in this way until it feels uncomfortably stretched but not actually painful. Hold and repeat as for method one. Once again this is best done after soaking in a warm bath.

SENSITIVITY
As you stretch and are able to expose more of the glans you may find that it is very sensitive or even painful to touch. You will find it less painful the more you expose and use it and gradually the over-sensitivity will lessen, until all you feel is pleasure. A gentle way to start touching the head is by using the shower spray. Also use water-based lubricant when touching the head directly and this should be more comfortable.

SMEGMA BUILD UP
As you stretch and are able to expose more of the head you may discover a build up of smegma. This may even contain hard lumps that are hard to remove. Soften them with a light vegetable oil or a non-scented, oily cream such as sorbolene or vitamin E cream. The smegma and softening agent can then be removed with a mild non-scented soap followed by a thorough rinse with plain water. A number of applications over a period of time may be necessary before the build up is cleaned away. Once it is then simple rinsing with plain water every day is enough to keep most penises clean and fresh. Some men can use soap daily but others find it upsets the natural balance and can actually cause infections or irritation.

ANOTHER TECHNIQUE
Another technique that some people have used successfully involves inserting a SMOOTH cylindrical object into the opening, just large enough to stretch without pain and leaving it in there throughout the day and/or night. As the opening stretches you swap the object for ones of increased diameter. It's a very efficient way of stretching but many guys say it is too uncomfortable on their sensitive glans so I rarely recommend it nowadays. Objects I have seen posts about using are bits of dowel of increasing diameters, sanded smooth and plastic objects such as pen tops, ending up with a 35mm film canister with the bottom cut out and smoothed off. With the last you can apparently wear it all day and even pee through it. I would have the cut edge facing outwards. This method may sound strange but as long as the objects are smooth and not too big you can't do much harm to yourself and it has the advantage of stretching all the time. You may need to hold them in place with surgical tape.

TIGHT FRAENULUM
Sometimes the cause of difficulty in retracting the foreskin is not a tight foreskin opening but a short fraenulum (frenulum), also known as fraenulum breve. This can also be stretched though it is sometimes more difficult to do this. You can grab the underside of the foreskin opening and pull out away from your body until you feel the fraenulum stretching. Or if your foreskin opening is large enough you can pull back on the foreskin until you feel the fraenulum stretching. Hold and repeat as in the foreskin opening stretching methods.
If the fraenulum can’t be stretched then an alternative to circumcision is a frenuloplasty. It is a simple operation that does not remove any tissue but fixes the problem with minimal healing time.

KEEP AT IT
I have sometimes seen posts from men despairing at their lot in having a tight foreskin. Have patience and keep at it. Often a really despairing post is followed by an “Oh boy! It just retracted over the head!” post. As I said at the beginning, even though the stretching process may take some weeks or even months this is probably faster than it would take you to fully heal from a circumcision.
Also keep stretching for a while once you get to the diameter of foreskin opening you want. If you stop too soon it is possible for things to tighten up again. So just keep doing the exercises for a few weeks or even months after everything is loose enough to work properly.
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andthecircusleavestown

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Posted: 09-16-08 03:39am

i'm going to repeat my question cos that last post was really long.

If anyones had frenulum breve and had it solved by surgery, i'd be grateful if you could tell me how much it cost (in the UK) to go privately.
I'm going to a urologist within the next couple of weeks, referred by my doctor, although i'm pretty sure i have frenulum breve, and would just like a rough idea of how much its gonna cost.
I'm going privately cos i can't wait.
Message me if you don't wann post here.
Thanks in advance
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Carl83

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Posted: 10-03-08 08:07am

Hi I'm from UK and been to the doctor.

He has given me caneston for a Thrush style symptom cos my penis was red (which it wasn't at all, it's always like that - I SHOULD KNOW!) - It's some Hydrocortisone 1% and Clotrimazole 1%.

Why did he do this?

I know I have torn my frenulum as i can see that it has gone slightly white where there is a little dip in the string from the tear as though it's dead tissue (but still connected). Also I saw the cut there when it bled first and 2nd time.

How can I go about gettign this operation done. Sex is too painful and I'm so scared of ripping it and I don't want the blood again like the 2nd time it happened.

Thanks
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