Please disregard this advice with as much contempt as you can. Salt water is not a safe way to treat legit medical disorders!


I cannot stress enough, do not throw away your medicine and do not start drinking saltwater!!!!!


Print up materials from Watercure.Com and bring them to your doctor, let him/her have a few seconds to laugh and make jokes and then ask them for the scientific reasons that these nut jobs would tell you to drink saltwater.

I was diagnosed with ibs over 12 years ago, thankfully I did not drink saltwater but I did quit smoking and drinking booze all the time and dropped most of the things tha stressed me out in life and my ibs has all but disappeared.

No one is suggesting "salt water". It is good to have a dialogue. The ama guards an industry of competitive drug companies. But throwing away essential drugs is not the point. We live in a chemical factory instead of a natural world. Having had ms for almost 2 decades I have done a lot of thinking and reading on the use of drugs and their long-term effects on mind and body. I am ambulant and highly functional against all odds considering the severity of attacks. Sea salt is a crystal full of life-giving electrolytes - like a snow flake that dissolves entirely in the system. Table salt is a hard crystal that does not. It could be categorized as a poison. Before the turn of the 19th century people had access to natural salts. When drinking the amount of pure water needed for a cure to many diseases, you must replenish the body with salt because, as everyone knows, our blood is like the sea - very salty to the taste. Maintaining the chemical balance is vital if you increase fluids. So, the point is not to drink salt water, of course! It is that, should you decide to take the water cure then you must add a little more proper sea salt to your diet, like sprinkling extra on foods. Harmless. See www.Watercure.Com. Sea salt is the "salt of life".


I have been cured radically of some serious chronic internal problems lasting years within a few months. It is simply the truth that dehydration is the cause of many diseases that then are treated with harsh chemical drugs instead of proper and controlled hydration. Think independently, read and do not believe in everything the drug companies throw at you. They are in business with medical doctors and have a strangle-hold over the health industry and congress. There are many good things that come from internal medicine, but many evils too. I read one report that indicated 1 in 400 people are killed by medical mistakes annually. Check the facts. Look how they are competing like shoe salesmen for ms patients to buy interferon products.

I use two light medications to prolong sleep. One is natural with no possible harm. Hydration protects my liver over time because many drugs are assimilated in the liver. Also, the blood stream clogs up, especially in the brain, which is 80% water, and requires refreshed circulation from proper not extreme hydration.


I used one drug, amitriptyline, on a regular basis for 8 years. This was originally used as a powerful antihistamine that dries up the system. No one told me to drink a few extra glasses of water a day over 8 years of use! Why? Because there is definite idiocy in the system as most of us have experienced. This is one of the serious problems with western medicine: targeting one thing and ignoring the whole. It almost destroyed my kidneys as well as making my moods unnatural, harming relationships. Anyway, the drugged world is not the right way as a whole. They are not only targeting the cns but also every other cell in your body. You may be relieved of a cns problem while having internal discomfort and damage regularly, especially using more than one drug habitually. Moderation in using any prescription is vital and chemical medicines will have 10 times the ill side-effects for every good one. This is a fact we knew in the 60's and it still goes on disregarded.


Again, hydration with pure water is vital, and if you increase your liquid intake by a quart/liter you dilute the bloodstream slightly of essential salts. The replacement salt should be harmless and life-giving unrefined sea salt eliminating table salts. This is logical. You can buy it at health food store in normal dry granule form. And it tastes a lot better! If one is ill or over middle age thennormal thirst is not always sensed except through pain and, therefore, conscious intake of pure water needs to be considered. Does this really sound like threatening nonesense?


Read "your body's many cries for water" by f. Batmanghelidj. Go to his other books at - http://www.Amazon.Com/exec/obidos/search-h andle-url/104-0423704-4192724?Url=index= stripbooks:relevance-above&field-key words=water cure&go.X=8&go.Y=13&am p;go=go.

Indeed, some drugs, especially in accute phases, are useful or necessary. But the human body is organic and created to heal itself. Do doctors actually heal or are they there to allow healing? Certain natural means actually cause a cure in you working with the body. They are not mere therapies. And no bad effects. Why be relieved of one thing and be sickened by another? We have become programmed to be drug dependent instead of eating and thinking in harmony with nature. Again, essential drugs are not a part of this argument. I would, however, always research what is considered essential. I purposely did not use "essential" drugs and got over everything just by mind and body control. Not everyone can live like this. But for those who can please do.

Lastly, I have a good general practitioner - we like each other - and see specialists when needed, at least for a good opinion. Western scientific medicine is not to be ignored - you don't see a naturopathe if you get into a car wreck! - but most certainly controlled, and I am not going to take just anything a doctor throws at me! It's all about independence and balance. You have to respect anyone who has gone through md studies. It's tough. But there can be arrogance in medicine - no really? - and a power trip operating with the assumption that only one authority over your health exists. That is why so many counter-movements now are flooding the media and internet. Things will change in time. I recall the days when you hardly ever saw a doctor! My grandmother recently died at 100 and I never saw a pill in her house when growing up. It's an industry now and very much a status and wealth thing. Few greats can be found. They have grave responsibilities, indeed, partially because they deal with potentially lethal products and instruments, but are no more smarter than any other educated or enlightened person, and we need to be independent in our thinking. Sorry for the length of this. I rest my case.

Your statement is in general a decent bit of information. Hydration is essential but at the same time, you are stating that modern medicine is the core evil and since the 60's the medical research industry has known that there are 10 x's the ill effects vs. Positive affect. (brain washing with no actual fact based stance)

where are these numbers coming from? I will not debate you that you are or are not healed from the terror that ms can bring into your life. I will however tell you and anyone else reading this, don't stop being treated for symptoms of ms and start drinking water and sea salt. I have been using sal maldon sea salt as a topping salt for years and I do not know of any research showing that I will be cured of anything other than hunger because I am seasoning my food before I eat it.

I have said it before and I will continue to say this to anyone that will listen, cyanide, lead, arsenic, asbestos, and even uranium is natural. That does not make them good for you. Salt in cube form from the salt mines in utah or from the marsh of france from the sea are still salt and in a molecular sense they dissolve the same and they are basically the same wiith the exception of the pollutants that are in the salt from the sea. The salt mines that are hundreds of feet under ground are less likly to contain man created pollutants than the salt gathered from the sea.

Again, congrats for being the only human being on earth to be totally healed from the raveges of ms, I am glad you don't have to deal with these issuses any more. As for someone else, give it a try but under no circumstance should anyone stop taking the meds prescribed by thier medical doctors, (even though they are evil and go to 8 or more years of reprogramming to make them keep thier patients sick so people have to buy medicine. Millions and millions of sick minded physicians keeping the human race sick.)

best regards,
brian

I totally agree with natural cure, herbal supplements, and total freedom from chemical "symptom relievers"

.God put it all here for us, and the chemists and scientists need to perfect the natural "cures" that this planet has.

to clarify, are you saying that the chemists that are already using remedies based on sea life and rain forest plants are not already rocognizing the benefits of "natural" stuff?

I am a deacon in a southern baptist church but I don't know what it has to do with medicine. God has given the entire earth to us to use for his glory, wether it is by finding a particular cell in nature and synthasizing it in the lab and making medicine from synthitic materials.

I agree that natural is fine but there is no evidence that natural anything is always going to be better than something that has been perfected in the lab by scientists that have been give the gift of creation to invent better more effective products.

It is a sad day when throwing .God into the discussion about advising truly sick people to drink salt water for cure is somehow legitimised. God has nothing to do with this eastern medical "singular" opinion. When a legit medical community suggests drinking water seasoned with sea salt to cure something other than thirst with added elctrolyte properties, I will begin to try it. Otherwise, I am throwing the flag.

I am not saying that some of the scientist and chemist have not already found out what we already know. That all the "chemicals" we need are the ones found in nature. I have seen a lot of stuff about sea salt instead of iodized table salt. I dont know the benefit or lack of benefit. I am just saying, what .God has put here is all we need. Period.


And to add---the medical community(and science) has never lined up with .God.

And they are more prone to mistakes and mis-diagnosis, because they will not listen to anything but their reasoning and knowledge. and in .God we learn to let down our reasoning to replace it with his. Because without his knowledge and his guidance we are nothing--no matter how much we study. They have been known, in my case to not even listen to the patient, let alone listen to the still small voice of .God.


And I was not neccessarily supporting this theory but I would do some resaerch on it for my own benefit. I was just saying, .God has already put it all here for us. If we go back to the old testament there are a lot of guidelines we could follow on eating that would benefit us greatly.

Yes, even including the people he has put here to develop products to help mankind.

And I will say it agin, don't throw .God into this discussion unless you are going to provide something substancial to the conversation other than debate about nothing. It is too easy to make the regular christian look like a fool when they misuse the holy name of .God to justify thier argument when there is no reason for that debate.

By no means is this an attack on your faith because that is personel, your relationship and only you and .God know your heart. What I am saying is stop using the blanket statement, .God gave us all we need because you are right and science is still looking for more of those items that were put here from the begining that we still have not found. Based on the information given in many of the shows on discovery, discovery times and science as well as national geographic explorer channel and there is a general consesus that less than 2% of possible medicines have been harvested from the seas. And it takes natural human beings along with natural submarines and other natural mechanical robots to get to those natural creatures and plants.

Brian

I dont misuse the name of .God--that is judging me--you are wrong.. I did not use .God. I said .God put it here. How is that misuse????



I am not debating either I was adding my opinion. You are the one debating, sir. Not me. This was just my opinion, and I clarified just that, for your benefit, in my second post.

so are we to throw out what jesus taught us as he walked the earth and also throw out what .God told peter in acts 10 to "get up, kill and eat" before you throw out old testament law, remember that we have been freed from the law not set above nor apart from it. As is told to peter, acts 10:15 "do not call anything impure that .God has made"

this is not supposed to be a religous/theoretical debate but a debate about doing what is right for your health and stopping using the meds prescribed and throwing them out for a glass of salt water is a very bad idea!

I know I am freed from the law, and do not call anything unholy that god has made. You are not talkin to a 2 day old christian.

I am spirit filled, speak in tongues, walk in the miraculous, lay hands on the sick, believer of .God. I know the word. And I am still not the one debating. I merely added my opinion.

Well I am glad we got that straight. We went from looking for evidencce about the "healing power of saltwater" to your "personal walk with .God"

for some lessons on tounges speaking, go to acts chapter 2 where the apostles were give the spirit and spoke in tounges that were heard and understood (not confusing babble) but actual language spoken and translated at the instant the words were spoken so that the jews representing every nation, heard and understood what was being said. That is tounges, babble is just that, babble.


Again, no need to drag the father through the mud but I am trying to assist you in your "personal repationship" with .God.

Remember, just because we are discussing theology doesn't mean you are any more or less my sister in faith and so this is all being said to allow you to explore your faith. My time in luther rice seminary really helped me to understand some of the mysteries in scripture. One being tounges, thousands heard and understood, there was no p.A. System in those days so how did mere men speak loud enough and in every represented language. Tounges is how, they did not hear and scratch their heads wondering why these guys were speaking in some undiscernable language.

Brian

p.S. Don't drink saltwater to cure your digestive diesease. To stay on topic.

Take any perscription or over the counter medicine down and look at the possible side effects. These are not there because it might hapeen to someone, but because it has happened to someone and they believe it to be the fault of the med. I'm in no way implying for anyone to drop their medications, but I do believe that in most cases one can be cured of ailments by natural remedies. Are we so full of ourselves as americans to say that we've got it down pat? Look at thailand and malasia for example. Look at the way in wich they practice medicine. Why is it that america (with all our docors and drugs - one for every symptom under the sun) is leading the world in cancer, heart disease, and obeseity. And we live shoter lives because of it. We should take notes from some of these "less fortunate" "less civilized" countries. They use natural remidies for most of their problems, and they out live us...Why is that? Maybe cause there' not a mcdonald's and a walgreen's pharmacy on every corner pushing poison. Once again i'm not totally against drugs...But it has gotten way out of hand when a doctor wants me to take a purple pill for the rest of my life for heartburn. A pill that may cause dry mouth, vommiting, rectal bleeding, constipation, dementia, impaired vision...So on and so forth. No thanks. Alittle viniger will do the trick every time. And with no side effects. Just look at how many new diseases (not serious) have been invented, yes invented in the last ten years. And how many billions of dollars have been made by the drug companies. And did you know that many drug companies bribe doctors with lavish gifts and lunches...All to push a few pills.

As we all have separate bodies and separate lives it is not possible to prescribe one system to all. When I worked in a geriatric hospital before student days, they distributed the same sedative type drugs for all the men it seemed and none. That I recall for the women. The latter seemed to handle old age better while men would get aggressive. Why the system? Convenience for doctors, lack of funding to take individual care for separate lives. The time will come when we will turn our attention to making weapons of mass healing instead of stockpiling and renewing wmd, when we put hundreds of billions into taking care of humanity instead of ways to kill each other. There needs to be a paradigm shift of a magnitude you nor I can imagine, and it must be global - just like in the eradication of polio. There is a great teacher of the late 19th and early 20th century called 'abdu'l-bahá (no, not islamic but bahá'í) who said that in 20th century medicine is in its infancy, and basically we have the same system now. In future cures and treatments will be natural with sweet herbs and the like. The body becomes ill when it is out of balance. A house cat will roam about searching for a particular herb instinctually to balance out some diseased state. We have lost this instinct. It is only logical that customized inorganic chemicals cannot be the ultimate way for biological organisms.

Lately, I was hospitalized due to weeks of collapse following a series of ms attacks. I had not been sleeping full nights for many years. They tested various drugs and found a combination that worked, and I am sleeping soundly full nights. I accept this, even though my preference is the natural. It is by far the lesser of two evils. But I remain conscious and will certainly wean myself off the medications eventually. There just are not the affordable facilities to take care of my condition. Ms is a very powerful disease, with its own mind it would seem. It can kill you easily just by the collapse of your diaphragm, which was part of what I was experiencing. I was, at one moment, given a choice to breath or not as the world around me turned into glowing violet and golden energy with my wife holding my hand silhouetted by pure light. There was no panic, and just I decided to breath. Perhaps I would not stay in that wonderful world and my were damaged through lack of oxygen instead of dying. So, I will bridge things now with the help of the neurological community until stronger. I will keep up my water diet - to flush out impurities - as well as eat enough and take natural vitamins. This is the time we are living. But I am researching "vibrational medicine of the 21st century", a book that covers much of the ground. The future of medicine is in bringing true natural equilibrium to the body. Much love and tranquility of heart to everyone. I just see life afresh now, and I feel enormous love for you all.

So I guess you can recind your first statement about throwing away all of your medicine and drink water?

Drinking water is a great idea, thought up the day life began here on earth but to date I havent heard of a real case of diesease solved from drinking water. Unless of course you live in a 3rd world country where the water is poisoned and you have to drink bottled water from the big bad americans or whatever the problem is with america and medicine.

I am glad you found b'hai and love everyone but please allow this oppurtunity to recind and advise properly, do not throw away your meds and do not stop taking them, they can and will probably save your life.

Kind of an off-subject question-

does anyone the medical term used to define death caused by drinking too much saltwater?