Attacked By Other Beings.. Posted: 12-29-05 18:00pm
I am writing about my wife. She is 26.
She wakes up 2-3 time a weeks exactly at 3
am. If I am not around, she sees a being
about 5 foot tall... Looks like a shadow,
it has mezmerizing eyes. That thing jumps
on her chest and pushes down untill she
passes out. Recently she is doing okay.
Last week she had a dream one of those
things touched her leg... She woke up
hyper ventilating...
Does anyone have any similar experience?
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slam
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Posted: 12-30-05 18:14pm
What ever you do, don't let her see a
pychiatrist. Psychiatrist will give her
unsafe antipsychotic drugs which causes
irreversible side effects and changes in
brain structure which prohibit recovery.
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aimee23
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Posted: 01-04-06 16:14pm
This is a reply to both of you. Firstly
slam I have read your replies a few times
suggesting that antipsychotic medication
is damaging and psychiatrists are bad
people! Which suggests to me maybe you
have had a bad experience in mental health
services, tell me if I am wrong I am
interested to find out why you are so
opposed to them.
I personally believe in some cases
medication helps people who experience
distressing symptoms of psychosis or other
mental illnesses, however if given in too
high a dose or given a medication that
does not suit that person this can lead to
a person feeling physically unwell or
cause mental health to deteriorate.
With regards to your wife I would advise
you to seek professional help if these
experiences are distressing for her. She
can get there opinion and maybe they would
offer medication, but you have a right to
request information on the medication
before making a decision whether to take
it or not. Dont be afraid to ask the
doctor questions or challenge decisions
they make.
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slam
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Posted: 01-05-06 14:46pm
Mainstream psychiatrist thinks
schizophrenia is a mental disease which
they cannot back with science! Minority
of them thinks schizophrenia is a healing
process of the brain. The fact is that
people do recover from schizophrenia
without medication! The success is much
higher! Have you read "mad in america".
Mainstream psychiatrist are off course!
I just want truth to be told. There are
enough test that shows the new
antipsychotics are dangerous!
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aimee23
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Posted: 01-05-06 15:13pm
Hello! I havent read mad in america but I
will now find out about it. I take it you
live in america? The advances there are
better than in england where I live.
However I have to insist that in the short
term if not for the long term, medication
is helpful to people suffering from
psychosis of any form. It gives them a
break from the awful distress they go
through if experiencing hallucinations and
delusions. Some people are not able to
sleep for days which in turn has an affect
on a person mental health. I am
interested to know if you have had any
experience in mental health either as
service user or member of staff.
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slam
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Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
Posted: 01-05-06 16:21pm
Soteria: through madness to deliverance is
a great book i'm reading right now.
This is how people should be treated when
they have a schizophrenic break, not with
dangerous medication!
Loren mosher(a psychiatrist) that went
against mainstream psychiatrist!
This is his book.
My experience with a psychiatrist may seem
good however I know he withheld
information! I don't want to argue
because he has the upperhand. He can
force drugs on me! So i'm silent,
agreeing 'yes doctor" like a good boy!
My god, psychiatrist will try to make
shyness a mental disorder! The drug
manufactures will make billions! They
tried that on homosexuality but they
lossed. :d
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slam
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Posted: 01-05-06 17:09pm
The old antipsychotics did better in the
short term during the trials but in the
long run people without medication did
better! It's well documented!The new
antipsychotics work the same way by
blocking the neurotransmitters but with
less side effects but it is still
dangerous! Data will show that
eventually! There are already some data
that says it's dangerous but I guess not
enough. Imagine millions on dangerous
antipsychotics that can have irreversible
outcomes and trapped in using them for the
rest of there lives. This is plain evil!
Do I think psychiatrist are bad?
medical question yes!
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kittengirl
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Posted: 01-11-06 12:50pm
This may sound really weird, but you might
want to check out several of these links
regarding something called "old hag
syndrome":
not everything is in medical
books...That's my theory anyway..
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HappyHappy
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Well Answer the Question. Posted: 07-03-07 12:03pm
Has anybody else had an experience like
that?
Has anyone ever seen anything like that, a
shadow person?
You should hear what they say about them
at sacredmagick.com .
Look it up.
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HappyHappy
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Posted: 07-03-07 12:05pm
or sacredmagick.net, you get it.
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naomi48
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Posted: 07-03-07 23:00pm
Interesting that you'd come up with this
old thread... Have *you* ever had any
similar type of hallucination?
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Philo
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Posted: 07-04-07 10:37am
It's professionally called "sleep
paralysis" (check out a good article on
wikipedia). I get it and it's harmless,
although pretty scary when you're going
through it. Actually it's very nasty, come
to think of it. But lots of people get it
and they're not mentally ill or anything
like that. I read a scientific report on
it and the author said that it probably
stems from a hyperstimulation of the area
of the brain that is responsible for
vigilance (thus the watching of the figure
and the feeling of danger). Go figure. It
one of the greatest mysteries of science,
not metaphysics.
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HappyHappy
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Posted: 07-04-07 17:12pm
Why no, I haven't had any experiences like
that at all.
Why are they all seeing the same things?
A bunch of different people seeing exactly
the same things, seems a bit phishy. Is
that explained just as the way this
phenomenon happens, seeing a shadow person
in your sleep, that's the phenomenon? Why
would vigilance have anything to do with
seeing a shadow person I wonder.
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Philo
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Posted: 07-05-07 09:43am
gudazdead
wrote:
Why would vigilance have
anything to do with seeing a shadow person
I wonder.
Because the monster or the person is
intesely watching you. It's supposed to be
the fragment of your mind that's
responsible for vigilance that is
personified in the monster.
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FANTABULOUS
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Posted: 08-08-07 23:06pm
Philo
wrote:
It's professionally called
"sleep paralysis" (check out a good
article on wikipedia). I get it and it's
harmless, although pretty scary when
you're going through it. Actually it's
very nasty, come to think of it. But lots
of people get it and they're not mentally
ill or anything like that. I read a
scientific report on it and the author
said that it probably stems from a
hyperstimulation of the area of the brain
that is responsible for vigilance (thus
the watching of the figure and the feeling
of danger). Go figure. It one of the
greatest mysteries of science, not
metaphysics.
I have had that too. Normally the mind is
disconnected from the part of the brain
that deals with motor control, once one
falls asleep. That way if you have a dream
that has you running, your true legs are
not doing the same.
However, in some case this disconnection
occurs prior to falling asleep. In my case
I could not open my eyes, nor sit up, and
I had a very hard time breathing.
But the fun part that happened
occasionally, was that just after the
sleep paralysis, I would fall into a
dream, and this time it happens prior to
losing complete conscious. As the result
of this, the dream was so real, so
colorful, and one could smell the freshly
cut grass, the flowers, etc. It was
amazing.
HappyHappy
wrote:
Why are they all seeing the
same things? A bunch of different people
seeing exactly the same things, seems a
bit phishy.
I have a terrible English vocabulary, and
always have.
The " Voices " used to laugh at me because
of this, and then would speak in words
that I had never heard of before. I would
then write down what they said, and then
look up the words in the dictionary and
find them eventually after managing to get
the spelling right.
It tuned out that what they said was
directly related to the situation that
they were commenting about at that very
same time.
This thread reminds me of an old episode
of "are you afraid of the dark?"
An old nickolodean show, in the nineties.
Anyway this episode started with these
kids who get ahold of these special
glasses, from a magic shop or something,
when the kids put the glasses on they see
these shadow people, another dimension I
guess. I forget exactly how the show
progresses, needless to say the children
do the wrong thing and they get trapped in
the other dimension.
What the hell is that all about? These
things were on tv in the nineties.
Look up this old episode if you get the
chance.
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FANTABULOUS
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Posted: 09-02-07 23:22pm
What is not understood, is always
understood. At least that is how the
psychiatrists seem to behave.
Now it is said that MRI scans say that the
brain of a schizophrenic is abnormal.
Just imagine if some guy was an extreme
genius, thus had an abnormality of the
brain, which thus created this advanced
and brilliant mind.
The psychiatrists would have to put the
person on meds to bring him back down to
being normal. But at least such an
abnormality would be detectable via MRI,
and hopefully caught in time before the
person became to smart.
After all, this person would be so
advanced that he could see things that the
rest of us could definitely not understand
at all, because we couldn't even see what
they could see to begin with.
We'd probably start saying that these
kinds of people were delusional or
something, since their vision was beyond
ours.
