i have realised that I seek a masculine
identity, which I am not secure of, but
which is more and more significant as I
grow older and desire more meaningful
relationships. When I was young, I almost
always fantasised being a female and
connected very strongly to a feminine
identity, the appearance of an angelic and
beautiful woman being far more desirable
for myself than an unattractive man.
While I would not openly exhibit female
behaviour ( e.G. Cross-dressing, playing
with dolls, etc) I would engage much more
easily with female friendships and engage
in female-oriented activities such as
co-operation. However, my psyche was not
entirely shaped this way, and I
experienced male traits nevertheless such
as competition and exhibiting the male
gender role of being active within
adventure-oriented games. However, I
almost always adopted mannerisms of
females (not gender specific ones, but
mannerisms of particular female people)
and viewed femininity as positive
(empathy, tenderness, caring) and
masculinity as negative (aggression, lack
of awareness of others' feelings, being
disagreeable). I felt far more
comfortable and confident within a female
identity, and wished to be a girl, but was
aware of my biological sex, and suppressed
the fantasy from the view of any others.
I knew I would grow into a man, but at a
young age, such future prospects were not
of great importance. This section of an
article summarises certain parts of my
sentiments accurately:
"some boys suffer from a chronic sense of
feeling inadequate in their masculinity,
but do not imitate female behaviour.
These boys may exhibit an almost phobic
reaction to rough-and-tumble play and an
intense dislike of team sports because of
poor eye-hand coordination. This
inability to bond with other boys through
sports leads to isolation, profound
loneliness, a weak sense of masculinity,
deep resentment, and often depression."
i only began to establish a certain sense
of masculine identity during pubertal
growth, and stopped consistent fantasising
of being female, and have not exhibited
traits of homosexuality (which is
difficult for others to understand, as
many often perceive that preferring a
feminine identity connects with being
homosexual). While I have a certain sense
of masculinity, I cannot clearly establish
that I can fully embrace being a man with
male traits, as I do not feel that this is
truly what forms my entire being, although
biologically, what it ought to be. I
still have occasional and short fantasies
where I have certain mannerisms of females
I admire, and often feel (especially
around those particularly "masculine) more
effeminate in the company of other men.
Often if asked about gender, men will say
"i am male, and proud of it, I wouldn't
want to be a woman" and vice versa. I am
unable to say that I am a man and proud of
it. As previously mentioned, I viewed
feminine traits often as positive, and
ones I should have, and male traits as
negative, even if it was not so. For
example, men are psychologically "problem
solvers", in a relationship or other
issue; they will see a problem and try to
fix it. This can be a hindrance or
advantageous depending on the situation,
whereas women view problems in terms of
relationships between others and seek
solutions in the interests of the feelings
of others – such a trait is far more
favourable to me. While I can accept
certain male traits to a certain extent,
which exist with female ones, I cannot be
happy when exhibiting male traits, and
often resent the fact that male traits are
presented as a "problem" towards female
traits. For example, if a woman says she
is tired, it may be to signal that she has
had a stressful day and seeks affection
from the man. However, the man, as a
problem solver may say "take a rest"
feeling that that is what the woman ought
to do. The woman is emotionally
unfulfilled by not receiving the affection
she desires, and the male trait is seen as
the "problem", and this forms part of my
subconscious thought process when I favour
female traits.
I believe one major cause of exhibiting
such traits is the fact that I have been
unable to secure a true emotional
connection with my father and view him as
a role model from which I could form my
own masculinity. While it has been formed
to a certain extent this way, it is in no
way sufficient. I have a bond of familial
love and care for my father, but not the
sense of connection by
self-identification. Most of my identity
by familial relationships was formed by my
mother, being the main parent who raised
me. While as a parent she can give
parental love and instil values for me to
be a well-rounded person, as well as
providing a base for relationships with
women, she cannot provide a full sense of
masculine identity.
I am also aware of the fact that to be a
man, one does not have to be a
stereotypical macho sports fan, but can be
sensitive, empathic and loving, but a
sense of manliness, strength, and a
certain expression of gender role is
required, and is what I lack. Similarly
to what the "when boys won't be boys"
article states, this lack of masculinity
contributes to lack of self-esteem,
anxiety and difficulty in forming
meaningful relationships with other males.
I believe that this has also contributed
to the fact that I am not attractive for
romantic relationships, as for
heterosexual relationships to start, a
woman must be attracted to a man with male
traits that will (subconsciously thought)
provide the strongest children, and vice
versa. As I do not have a strong
masculine identity, I feel that this sense
of romantic relationships is not possible,
and in certain ways, I simply assume the
role of another girl in a friendship with
a female, although not in all ways.
However, in terms of desire for romantic
relationships, I wish to assume the role
of a male, but have very little will or
desire for dominance or a sense of
self-worth to be a suitable partner.
While relationships no longer need the
stereotypical breadwinning protective male
and submissive female, certain traits of
these gender roles are still exhibited
within romantic relationships, and I lack
this sense of masculinity in order to
create any sense of a relationship.
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jenweric
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 12 Location: pa
Gender Identity Posted: 02-14-06 22:33pm
You really analyzed yourself to the
fullest extent. Bravo.
So what's your concern?
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Eternal
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 38
Posted: 02-28-06 17:43pm
It is essentially how I can come to terms
with my identity - is it a normal problem,
or is it worth seeing the gp about? Are
gps particularly qualified to tackle such
complex issues? This page describes how I
feel almost completely accurately - htt
p://www.Love-shy.Com/gilmartin/chapter05/m
alelesbian.Html almost as if I wrote
it myself. In japanese, the word for
gender is "seibetsu", which means the
"separation of life" - and it certainly is
- the separation of life into two
different paths, and sometimes I feel that
being male is subhuman and an
inappropriate way of living for me - I
don't feel I was made to hunt, forage,
rough and tumble, etc, I feel more
inclined to love, care, and relate to
people, and I value this more highly. I
do however have some masculine traits,
particularly sexual desire towards
females, and certain elements of
aggressive play with toys when I was
young. I also see my identity as a male,
and changing sex would be too traumatic,
mean I was a lesbian, have some male
traits, and be viewed as abnormal, and be
unable to have children (i am not quite at
the extreme stage of a transsexual).
Is there any specific help I can find?
Although I didn't make my questions clear,
I think it's pretty obvious what my
problems are and advice to give, rather
than just saying "so what's your concern?"
:roll:
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jenweric
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 12 Location: pa
Don't Worry Posted: 02-28-06 22:15pm
Hi,
personally, I don't think there's anything
wrong with you. These are my thoughts:
you seem to be very educated, because your
writing is perfect.
You are a very sensitive male(which is
rare) and I would think women would be
knocking down your door!! Also, I think
you are thinking about your "problem" too
much. You are smart and sensitive..Hmm..
You have a lot going for you!!! Engage
yourself in hobbies or have a couple of
drinks with your friends! Instead of
dwelling on your identity, you should
really focus your attention on your
health. There are people dying of cancer,
aids, and so much more. They would be
thrilled to have your "problem." life to
too short, man! Go out and have some fun!
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Eternal
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 38
Posted: 03-01-06 15:34pm
I have felt that too - that there is
little wrong with me, which is why I have
not talked about it much to close friends,
it's just that often I feel detached from
masculinity - and this is significant
because I very very rarely attract women,
and if I do, it is only due to a
superficial reasons such as my looks, but
I have never had a relationship or
particularly flirtatious encounter.
Despite this, I socialise very easily with
most girls, and many say I talk on their
level, I am more comfortable around them
than boys, but the reason why I feel I am
not attractive is because I don't have
confidence with attracting females. The
two times I have serious feelings for a
girl I have driven them away, so
subconsciously my mind stops myself from
approaching anyone else in the same way.
As you can tell, I am hardly a
"masculine" male (i don't care about being
macho, etc. But having masculine traits
is important) yet I dislike being male and
as a result I don't have a "male
attractiveness". In any case, whether
this makes me less attractive or less
confident, i'm not sure how I can achieve
happiness with my identity, since part of
it is being a male, yet for me, being male
is a second-rate form of living - more men
suffer diseases, die earlier, more likely
to have mental problems, more likely to
have problems at school, are always
stereotyped as totally misunderstanding
others, mainly women, have poorer smell
and hearing, seem to be only able to do
one thing at a time, take words literally
and are not good at inferring meaning,
take stupid risks, are anti-social, are
less sensitive and block out feeling, are
stereotyped as forgetful and stupid, feels
sex is the primary achievement in a
relationship, can never tell what a woman
is thinking (because he is so stupid and
can't read any body language... :roll: ).
I don't associate myself, or wish to
associate myself with these sorts of
traits at all, and feel I have aptitude in
areas where men are typically weak, so I
have simply adopted my own personality and
rejected stereotypes, but this also means
rejecting masculinity.
Girls also have similar opinions to you -
"you must attract many women, you are
smart, sensitive, poetic..Etc etc" yet I
never do.. )
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christiahall
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 22 Location: Holland
Posted: 06-22-06 04:00am
I didn't have the attention span to read
passed the third paragraph, but I just
wanted to let you know that I think that
what you have expressed is not all that
uncommon. I am a woman, and had the exact
same (but opposite) feelings. I have come
to the conclusion that it is just one way
that we appreciate and love the opposite
sex in a perfectly healthy way. Now even
my 3 year old daughter seems to have the
same thing. She always wants to be both
the boy and the bad guy when they play
games. Its just a quirk I guess. I think
it just means that you love women in the
best way possible and would probably make
a really good lover.