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Q: Abortion Statistics
asked by: nightangel73 on December 18th, 2005
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For those new in the board and do not know the facts:


-that the taking of a human life by abortion is legal in the usa at any time throughout the entire nine months of pregnancy... For any reason!

-at 18 days after conception, a baby has a heartbeat.

-at 6 weeks following conception, the babies brain waves can be measured. At 8 weeks after conception, the stomach, liver, and kidneys of the baby are functioning, and fingerprints have formed. At 9 weeks, the unborn child can feel pain.

-that 700,000 abortions are performed each year in america after 9 weeks into the pregnancy.

-the overwhelming majority of all abortions, (95%), are done as a means of birth control. Only 1% are performed because of rape or incest; 1% because of fetal abnormalities; 3% due to the mother's health problems.

-for every two babies born another baby dies in an abortion.

That's 1.5 million babies each year;
that's 4,000 babies every day;
that's 1 baby every 20 seconds;
that's approximately 40 million babies since 1973;
and that's just here in america.
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Carifairy
replied on December 18th, 2005
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At 9 weeks it canno0t feel pain because the "cerebral cortex", which has to work before pain can be felt, does not begin to function until the 23rd week.
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Izzy
replied on December 18th, 2005
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"at 9 weeks it canno0t feel pain because the "cerebral cortex", which has to work before pain can be felt, does not begin to function until the 23rd week."

that is an assumption based on the way a fully developed human being suffers pain, there is evidence to show that it is probable that the child feels pain at 12 wks, but this is not a medical fact. Pain isnt important in the debate anyway, its the ending of a human beings life against his or her wishes, simple as that.
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Carifairy
replied on December 18th, 2005
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Fetal pain is not an issue for me or my personal choices. A fetus is not a sentient being, it does not "wish" anything.
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sunshine424
replied on December 18th, 2005
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carifairy wrote:
fetal pain is not an issue for me or my personal choices. A fetus is not a sentient being, it does not "wish" anything.


oh please, would you just get over it??
It is a being, a human being, just young in age and in a womb to develop into what we sit here as todays, fully developed humans. There is no group of people in life I disagree with more than pro-choice. You all sounds so stupid and heartless and out for yourselves.
The issue is about taking the life of a deserving human being, not when it can feel pain. None of us know for sure at what stage it feels pain, but nonetheless, pain or no pain, your ending a life in the process of abortion. There is no way around it. It's just wrong, period.
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sunshine424
replied on December 18th, 2005
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"the overwhelming majority of all abortions, (95%), are done as a means of birth control. Only 1% are performed because of rape or incest; 1% because of fetal abnormalities; 3% due to the mother's health problems. "

.....Amazing! Gross! Disgusting! Selfish baby killers is all they are. So much for pro-choice "it's right for the health of the woman" argument. 3%. 3 out of 100 abort for medical reasons. And 97 for birth control. Wow. Ugh.
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Carifairy
replied on December 18th, 2005
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89% of all abortions are also performed before the 12th week.
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sunshine424
replied on December 18th, 2005
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carifairy wrote:
89% of all abortions are also performed before the 12th week.


yippee. 89% of killings are before the 12th week. So what? Is that something to be proud of?
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Tazzy D
replied on December 19th, 2005
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Once there is a heart.. It should be considered homicide.... And at 6-7 wks.. On some cases a heart is visualized

i think there should be more counceling and etc. Before someone ever makes the choice to terminate.. You have so many people who do not understand what they are doing.. Or like others have said are coersed into having one..
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Tylanas
replied on December 19th, 2005
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It is not human in my opinion until it has consciousness. It is not conscious, thus it is not human. "i think, therefor I am."

it is right to abort it if it is not wanted.
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Carifairy
replied on December 19th, 2005
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Abortions are now done at many clinincs as early as 3-4 weeks along. As soon as you get a postive home pregnancy test, an early one will detect about 5 days before a missed period, you can have an abortion. So waiting 7 weeks is not necessary if you go to a lcinc that offers an aboriton early.
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sandyallen
replied on December 19th, 2005
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I would rather see a zef being aborted than a baby that has been borned and not wanted, neglected and abused and killed after the baby is born. Just because you can get pregnant does not make you a good mother.
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Tylanas
replied on December 19th, 2005
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sandyallen wrote:
i would rather see a zef being aborted than a baby that has been borned and not wanted, neglected and abused and killed after the baby is born. Just because you can get pregnant does not make you a good mother.


agreed.
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sunshine424
replied on December 19th, 2005
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eiri wrote:
it is not human in my opinion until it has consciousness. It is not conscious, thus it is not human. "i think, therefor I am."

it is right to abort it if it is not wanted.


you have said this before. That means if i'm knocked out and left unconscious, I am not human for that time being. Therefore you may rip me apart and kill me. Essentially that is what your saying. The ability to think does not make one a human. How silly.
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sunshine424
replied on December 19th, 2005
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sandyallen wrote:
i would rather see a zef being aborted than a baby that has been borned and not wanted, neglected and abused and killed after the baby is born. Just because you can get pregnant does not make you a good mother.


has someone said that becoming pregnant means your a good mom? I don't recall that. I know I never argued that. That is why it all starts with responsibility in taking precautions and should they fail, responsiblity towards raising a child the way one should.
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Tylanas
replied on December 20th, 2005
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sunshine424 wrote:
eiri wrote:
it is not human in my opinion until it has consciousness. It is not conscious, thus it is not human. "i think, therefor I am."

it is right to abort it if it is not wanted.


you have said this before. That means if i'm knocked out and left unconscious, I am not human for that time being. Therefore you may rip me apart and kill me. Essentially that is what your saying. The ability to think does not make one a human. How silly.


no edit. You seem to have forgotten that the important concept in that is the physical ability to be conscious. A 5 week old zef does not have the physical ability to be conscious. You, on the other hand, do have the capability, though you obviously don't use your sentiency when writing your posts.


A zef does not think, it cannot think. You can. Why don't you try it?
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sunshine424
replied on December 20th, 2005
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eiri wrote:
sunshine424 wrote:
eiri wrote:
it is not human in my opinion until it has consciousness. It is not conscious, thus it is not human. "i think, therefor I am."

it is right to abort it if it is not wanted.


you have said this before. That means if i'm knocked out and left unconscious, I am not human for that time being. Therefore you may rip me apart and kill me. Essentially that is what your saying. The ability to think does not make one a human. How silly.


no stupid. You seem to have forgotten that the important concept in that is the physical ability to be conscious. A 5 week old zef does not have the physical ability to be conscious. You, on the other hand, do have the capability, though you obviously don't use your sentiency when writing your posts.



A zef does not think, it cannot think. You can. Why don't you try it?


ya know what? You have become a real edit since you have started posting here. Ms. Innocent eiri comes here with a little nice attitude and turns into a edit because she can't handle the facts. Listen here "edit".....

Your the edit that somehow tries to justify killing with some ridiculous argument about being "conscious". Nice try but you lose. Your still a killer advocate so get over it. Your a editand you can take your stupid argument and stuff it.
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Tylanas
replied on December 21st, 2005
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sunshine424 wrote:
eiri wrote:
sunshine424 wrote:
eiri wrote:
it is not human in my opinion until it has consciousness. It is not conscious, thus it is not human. "i think, therefor I am."

it is right to abort it if it is not wanted.


you have said this before. That means if i'm knocked out and left unconscious, I am not human for that time being. Therefore you may rip me apart and kill me. Essentially that is what your saying. The ability to think does not make one a human. How silly.


no stupid. You seem to have forgotten that the important concept in that is the physical ability to be conscious. A 5 week old zef does not have the physical ability to be conscious. You, on the other hand, do have the capability, though you obviously don't use your sentiency when writing your posts.



A zef does not think, it cannot think. You can. Why don't you try it?


ya know what? You have become a real problem since you have started posting here. Ms. Innocent eiri comes here with a little nice attitude and turns into a health forum because she can't handle the facts. Listen here "stupid".....

Your the fool person that somehow tries to justify killing with some ridiculous argument about being "conscious". Nice try but you lose. Your still a killer advocate so get over it. Your a heartless health forum and you can take your stupid argument and stuff it.


you only think i'm a heartless bitch because I started voicing the scientific facts, and because I wouldn't bow down to christian or whatver you want to call it "doctrine". I have a voice and a mind of my own, and it happens to dissonate strongly with yours. Have I stopped to calling you stupid? Yes, unfortunatly, when you were acting truly stupid. Hey, guess what? Intelligent design got defeated in the supreme court! Thank goodness!

I don't advocate "killing", because I am pro-choice. I advocate the ability to chose if you want to end the not-yet-started life of the unthinking, unfeeling, undeveloped zef in your stomach. You still don't have to. Go ahead and give birth, go ahead and adopt. The beauty of pro-choice is that it's all up to you individually what you do with your body.

Nothing from the bible that claims jesus was the messiah is a fact, to my knowledge. You cannot prove and angel talked to mary, or that jesus was immaculately conceived. In fact, there are a lot of things in the bible that have been disproven by plain old archaeology, like the fact that there is no proof of a mass exodus of jews out of egypt.

I don't have to take take it and stuff it, because this is a debate forum. There would be no debate if people like me didn't speak up.
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nightangel73
replied on December 22nd, 2005
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[quote="eiri"]
sunshine424 wrote:
the beauty of pro-choice is that it's all up to you individually what you do with your body.



and here we go again eiri, you can do what ever you wish with "your body". The zef is not "your body", it is someone else's body. That someone has only half of your genetic material.
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Carifairy
replied on December 22nd, 2005
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But it is inside of her body, and therefore she has control over it.
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