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Q: Abortion Should Be Legal

asked by: diamondsz on December 10th, 2005

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I was against abortion till I got raped and got pregnant and ended up having to go through the whole sitiuation @ 17 I didnt want a kid I would hate because it wasnt born out of love. Its a sin to have one but did you know in the christan religion it is also a sin to fornicate or be raped before marriage so whats the diiference make someone who was raped carry a kid and hate it.

In certain cases I think it should be illegal
~using abortion as a form of birth control
~getting an abortion done cause you you dont fit in your clothes
~haveing unprotected sex
~you want to live your life and party

see that is sickening but if someone got raped or for the health of the mother(life threatening) I think it should be legal..........

Before you say well god would have wanted it that way, do you think would purposely help you commit a sin uh hello no............

Anyways im so sick of ppl saying that these dr are taking lives when sometimes there actually doing it for ppl who truly needed it here is what happened when I went to the clinic

i had to talk to two different counsellors and actually agree that is what I wanted to do as well as read pamphlets and sign documents that I agreed and my mother did as well. ~day two I went in for the u/s to make sure I was pregnant and find position of fetus, I was informed the fetus had stopped growing but I was def prego and had to sign paperwork confirming that if something went wrong I couldnt hold them liable..~day three I wasnt allowed to eat that morning and my appt was at 9 am, they prepped me gave me an iv and I dont remeber anything till I got home except it was done but I had major cramping after.......

I am currently married and have one child and another on the way, I feel no remorse for having it done in my head and till today it was never my child and I hope other woman dont have to go through what I did......

Im sorry a woman never asked to be raped or beaten, god wouldnt give you a child of sin as that was the way it was created and trust me I have talked to enough fathers to give an opinion on god here......

Replies(13)

nightangel73

replied on December 10th, 2005

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I believe we should educate more women that in the case that if woman is raped she should inmediatly go to be checked in a clinic and tell the authorities, that way she can get the morning after pill and not be pregnant.

Carifairy

replied on December 10th, 2005

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Did you now that hospitals don't just offer the morning after pill, you have to request it at many hospitals. Catholic hospitals don't even care if you ask, you still won't get it.

**** we need to make legislature that allows women to recieve the morning after pill after a rape. Because if you are traumatized, will you remember to ask? Maybe.. . .. Maybe not. . . ...

Tylanas

replied on December 10th, 2005

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nightangel73 wrote:

i believe we should educate more women that in the case that if woman is raped she should inmediatly go to be checked in a clinic and tell the authorities, that way she can get the morning after pill and not be pregnant.

that is what I constantly hear; that if raped, the first thing a woman should do is go to a hospital. Don't take a shower, don't get cleaned up because you whole body is a crime scene where doctors and police can get evidence in order to convict the guy who has raped you. It's the best way to empower you after such a horrible experience that many wome feel powerless after. Going and getting checked out is getting back at the man who did it; it's a first step.

I also agree that legislature should require doctors to offer the morning after pill, to remind the traumatized women that the option is there.

Carifairy

replied on December 10th, 2005

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Many women do go immediately to a hospital e.R... But what if the closest hospital er is a catholic based hospital? She wouldn't be offered the moring after pill because it goes against their beliefs, and there she is being violated in yet another way. We cannot always choose the hospitals we go to, especially in an emergency, but we can choose laws that state that all rape victims are offered the morning after pill.

nightangel73

replied on December 11th, 2005

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carifairy wrote:

many women do go immediately to a hospital e.R... But what if the closest hospital er is a catholic based hospital? She wouldn't be offered the moring after pill because it goes against their beliefs, and there she is being violated in yet another way. We cannot always choose the hospitals we go to, especially in an emergency, but we can choose laws that state that all rape victims are offered the morning after pill.

that would be very very rare that the only hospital avalaible is a catholic one, I been living in the us for three years and I haven't ever seen a catholic one yet. I'm lucky at least I found a catholic church to go cause even those are rare here. Us is predominant a protestant country.

nightangel73

replied on December 11th, 2005

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eiri wrote:

nightangel73 wrote:

finally she says something smart ;-)

Carifairy

replied on December 11th, 2005

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Catholic hospitals, and even some private hospitals who have religious (non denominational) associations are everywhere. They are not always on the hospital signs themselves, but by doing some looking you can find religious hospitals. Although there may be few catholic/religious hospitals near you, that doesn't mean that other women do not have them closeby. And ambulances take a person to the closest hospital, they often times do not ask to see which one you prefer. If you can talk, great, but some traumatized women are just numb.

sandyallen

replied on December 11th, 2005

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That is a great ruling of rape but how many times that you realize that women are traumatized, go home, take a shower, live in like a shell for sometime and do not seek help. The jails and prisons are getting filled up, their is not room for all of these rapists so sometimes, they get probation and go back after these women and really hurt them even though I still agree, it should be reported. What about the internet garbage, you never know who you are meeting up with on it. There is good and bad wherever you go.

Tylanas

replied on December 11th, 2005

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nightangel73 wrote:

eiri wrote:

nightangel73 wrote:

finally she says something smart ;-)

i'm confused. There is no reason for people on the same side of the issue to be insulting each other, or implying that everything one of us has said in the past is stupid. If your'e so edit pro-choice, then you have to at least agree with some of the things I say, otherwise you're just a hypocrite. Of either side.

Tylanas

replied on December 11th, 2005

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sandyallen wrote:

that is a great ruling of rape but how many times that you realize that women are traumatized, go home, take a shower, live in like a shell for sometime and do not seek help. The jails and prisons are getting filled up, their is not room for all of these rapists so sometimes, they get probation and go back after these women and really hurt them even though I still agree, it should be reported. What about the internet garbage, you never know who you are meeting up with on it. There is good and bad wherever you go.

that is why I do not go meet in real life the people I meet on the internet; because I know that there are a lot of f'ed up people on the net. It's just a stupid idea to do so.

As for jails...I'm a fan of the 3-strikes-you're-out plan that califonia has; although I think that the strikes should pertain to far more dangerous crimes than stealing a bike (which is what ahppened to one man; he was convicted 2 times, cleaned his life up, then stole a bike, and becuse that wsa srike three, he was sentnced to death. Don't know if it ever happened). And it should probably be more than just 3 strikes. I know i'm going to get flack for tht one, but it's just an idea. It's not meant to kill off current prisoners, it's meant to make people actualy realise that going to jail is serious bad business, and that they have an actual far instilled in them to behave. Right now people are purposly getting arrested because then they'll get free meals, health care, and cable tv. It sickens me.

sandyallen

replied on December 11th, 2005

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Exactly, eire and plus they cannot over-crowd the jails, they should make them all like the az jail where they do not get nothing extra, when I lived in california, I always thought a great place for a big jail or prison would be right in the middle of death valley, where they send rapists, it is good and hot there.

nightangel73

replied on December 11th, 2005

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whatisupwiththat1 wrote:

a shame you haven't.

but don't loose hope on me yet ;-)

Tylanas

replied on December 11th, 2005

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sandyallen wrote:

exactly, eire and plus they cannot over-crowd the jails, they should make them all like the az jail where they do not get nothing extra, when I lived in california, I always thought a great place for a big jail or prison would be right in the middle of death valley, where they send rapists, it is good and hot there.

jail should be the punishment it was supposed to be!

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