Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 7 Location: GOM: Gulf of Mexico
Had Discogram! Piece of Cake!! Posted: 12-09-05 12:38pm
I went to my dreaded disco yesterday; no
pain no problems!
It helped that I had my same ns and nurse
anesthetist doing the prcedure, so they
knew I had no ability to lay flat on
stomach. I had 3 pillows and could bend
my leg to help prop up.
The discogram (for me) was nothing of all
the horror stories! At least for me it
wasn't. I have a very high pain tolerance
and do not take meds unless in dire need.
And yes, my pain sends me to the floor and
I have to resort to crawling all too
often!
Anyway, for those considering a disco, go
for it! It is no big deal. I want to
give some encouragement to those facing
one. And I am the worst for going to the
doc for a problem!!! I read all the
horror stories and worked myself up into a
frenzy. But it pales in comparison to my
daily pain that has taken me out of the
cockpit....And that sucks!!! :evil:
in my disco, my pain was finally
duplicated, and don't expect to be sedated
(you dont want to!!!!) (i wasn't ) so you
can relay as accurate info to your doc as
you can. I've had so many treatments
(diagnostic) and no help, so disco was
next. I am so glad I took it.
The wait was the worse thing b/c nurse try
to keep you sitting or in bed...Both I
cannot do!
So, suck it up for a few minutes and just
keep the thoughts positive! Your daily
pain is what you want to stop, so this
could be the answer! :d
i have no pain a day later, no meds
either. I have one strange symptom and
that is my left leg has lost all strength.
I have feeling, can move, but it won't
hold any weight.
I hope this is only from the procedure and
will go away!
Any thoughts welcome! :d
ak
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steevo
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 41 Location: desoto mo.
Posted: 12-10-05 10:09am
Glad to hear your doing better! I am not
familiar with the procedure you had called
disco. What is this? I'd like to know
because I to can't lay on my stomach for
any length of time. I will be looking up
info on disco and share it with you later.
Steevo
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Tamadrummer
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 12-10-05 16:41pm
I am happy that you got the test done but
I am confused as to how the doc did the
test. The purpose of the test is to
recreate the pain you are feeling at a
much more intense level. If the pain is
not duplicated, the test is negative and
this proves the disc is not the cause of
pain.
However it happened, it is good that you
have answers.
For those that see this thread, I have had
2 discograms and in my opinion, I thought
my spine was going to explode it hurt so
bad. This was how it was shown that I had
discogenic pain and I needed to have a
lamiectomy with full disc replacement. I
could had fusion but instead we did the
charite 3 artificial disc.
I am now experiencing facetogenic pain and
so I will be having facet blocks and if
they help I will have nerve oblation done
at l5/s1 and l4/l5 because these are the
nerves that show problems.
Hope this helps,
brian
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oilfieldpilot
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 7 Location: GOM: Gulf of Mexico
Posted: 12-12-05 20:51pm
Hi steevo and brian!
The discogram is where there is suspect
damage within the disc, so needles are
pushed into the disk where a dye is
injected. Then you are sent for a catscan
for cross section pics of the discs, and
the dye will fill in any cracks/fissures.
But your pain must be duplicated!
You are not sedated because the doc needs
to find which disc is causing the pain, if
it is.
In my case prior, I had the epidural
cortisone shots for bulging discs (that
the mri revealed) but those did me no
good.
My symptoms (cannot stand up straight nor
arch back (ooof! :shock: )) then pointed
to facet problem. So my ns (pain
specialist) changed my last shot to a
series for facet pain. The xrays and dye
traces did indeed revel some nasty facets,
but the dang shots did no good. So facets
are not cause of my pain.
So, the next step was to get a look at the
center of the disc; and here is where a
discogram is done.
(steevo, do you have the link for "spine
and beyond" forum? I think you came over
there recently...I'm not on my laptop and
can't find the link :cry: ) anyway, there
is where you should go for some wonderful
info on everything back/spine related!
And yes, my pain was duplicated, and yes
it hurt like the fires of hades! But i've
tolerated this problem for 2 yrs (sciatica
15 yrs) and just toughed it out until I
could no longer make it thru a flight day.
So this was no big deal, just the same as
what I put up with on a daily basis, and
even when the pain was so bad I have to
resort to slithering across the floor to
get around! And I don't take pain meds
unless I am contemplating a bullet for the
pain (once a week maybe). I am blessed
with high pain tolerance.
My ns shot 4 discs total, and 3 did not
cause any pain, just pressure. But when
he hit "the one"...It was obvious,
wooohoooo yeowch%#@$!. I let him go as
long as I could stand it.
Also, if you cannot lie on your stomach
(which I cannot either), talk to your
team, let them know what you can and
cannot (will not) do. My team knew me
from all of the previous shots. You can
stack pillows under your belly/hips, and
not use one for your head. I also had one
under my feet. I was also allowed to hike
a leg up a bit to help keep pressure off
my "kink" in my back.
If you have a team who tries to make you
do otherwise, be nice (they have sharp
needles!) and just ask to talk to your
doctor. You should have no problem!
I had a different team on my second shot,
and they tried to tell me I can't do this
and that, but we remedied this quickly
when I climbed onto the table and
positioned myself and declared 'come hell
or high water, I ain't moving!'...It
worked fine :d
i am now...Into my end of 4th day after
discogram....It was easier than any of my
epidurals! I have some electricity down
my left leg, but that is from the dye
pressure in the discs. My pain is still
as it was, since this is only a
diagnostic, not a treatment.
My disco did not duplicate the sciatica
though. That may need to be addressed by
a myelogram.
I hope this helps clarify things!
Best of luck, hang in there, and wear out
every diagnostic option before any
surgery!
Hugs, :wink:
ashley
ofp
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steevo
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 41 Location: desoto mo.
Posted: 12-13-05 09:48am
Thank's for the info. Keep us posted, and
yes I am one to try almost anythin
conservative before surgery. Get well
soon, to all of us. Steevo
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steevo
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 41 Location: desoto mo.
Posted: 12-13-05 09:56am
Sorry for the double post but try
spineyat42.Conforums.Com I think that is
the link. Steevo