i am seeking information/understanding on
this illness as my 35 year old brother
committed suicide last august.
I wondered how I could have helped him
better or what he was going through.
I know he was getting worse each year and
refused to get help from doctors or
anyone. He ended up in a catitonic stage
most of the time.. He was also extremley
violent other times.
Its been very hard for our family, we
never thought he would take his own life.
I really miss him.
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slam
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Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
Posted: 12-06-05 15:28pm
It's very hard thinking clearly when you
are hallucinating or delusional. He
should have been in the hospital taking
his medication and recovering. The
hospital would never have let him out
until he is capable of taking care of
himself. I was in the same situation .
I'm very sorry.
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kevins sister
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Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 4 Location: Surrey.B.C
Kevin Posted: 12-06-05 15:45pm
Thanks... Unfortunately, he would not get
the help he needed. And being an adult we
couldnt make him. He had a social
worker, but would not go see her either.
The medication was not right for him for a
very long time I think.
It was really hard watching him spiral
downward for so long.
He began to resent his family, and claimed
he hated us all. The only family members
he saw were our parents. Mostly when he
needed something.
I cant help but think their could have
been something we could or should have
done.
I think we let him down, as far as
support.. Its just he didnt want it you
know?
I guess he just gave up.
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slam
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Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
Posted: 12-06-05 15:52pm
I don't know if I should let you know this
but here goes. Even if he is an adult,
you could have put him in the hospital if
you notice he is going to hurt himself.
He is in danger to himself. The hospital
will take him without his consent. This
illness is hard to deal with in all sides.
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kevins sister
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Kevin Posted: 12-06-05 16:01pm
No its o.K to say whatever... I want to
know.
The thing is that their is no resources
here in b.C canada.
Not only that, he would be able to leave
at anytime. He once went to the hospital
and told them he was having suicidal
thoughts, and they kept him for a couple
days and released him. :shock: even with
his history.. Which was very long and
violent. He beat my mother very badly
once. And in order to try to help him,
she had him charged.. In hopes that the
court would make him get the help he
needed.
They didnt.. They charged him with
assault. That was all.
We never thought he would hurt himself.
At least not for years. He did have major
depression issues though. And he self
medicated with alcohol.
Against his familys wishes.
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slam
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Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
Posted: 12-06-05 16:07pm
The hospital should have put him in a long
term hospital. I'm not sure the name of
the hospital. This is how we do it here
in the united states.
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 12-06-05 16:24pm
I am very sorry for the loss of your
brother! It is very difficult when they
turn to alchohol and give up,
schitzophreneia is a very difficult
disease to understand, you could not have
saved him. All you can do now is to tell
yourself that he is in a safe place now
and is not suffering and it is not your
fault.
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kevins sister
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Kevin Posted: 12-06-05 16:30pm
Can you slam or anyone tell me if this
illness goes in stages?
I watched my brother go from
scared (hearing voices) when he was 14 and
first diagnosed. To
never leaving his room for months at a
time.
Terrified to leave the house
reading the bible constantly (looking for
answers I guess)
picking at his food as if to clean it
first
to twitching facial expressions
to slashing himself.. Not deep only
scratches (but lots)
to poor personal hygiene
to homelessness.
To violence
to catonic behaviour.
Never having more that 2 of these symtems
at one time.
And seemed to change every year.
Does this sound like the illness? I am
asking because, doctors who diagnosed him
originally, had a hard time deciding if it
was schitzophrenia or manic depressive..
He was hospitalized when he was 14-17
years of age, then our government decided
to do major cut backs in our medical
system and released them all into the
streets.
Can anyone tell me why he chose not to get
counciling? Is this the peranoid type?
He had to have wanted to be well?
(i hope im not upsetting anyone by all
these questions)
i feel like a terrible sister who got on
with her own life and family and never
tried harder to help.. It seemed so
hopeless.
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slam
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Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
Posted: 12-06-05 18:13pm
This illness gets worst with time unless
properly treated. I'm not sure about
hallucinations but with delusions yes.
Coping with the illness will get worst
too if symptoms persist.
How often does he hear voices?
Did he have depression before he heard
voices?
Can anyone tell me why he chose not to get
counciling? He probably thinks he
could handle it himself. Or he
doesn't think he has an illness. Or
he doesn't think ahead. Or he doesn't
care. It's hard to say. I need
to know what kind of person he is.
He had to have wanted to be well?
It's tough fighting this illness alone.
His direction was hopeless. He
don't know better sad to say. Many
people are like this. They think they
could handle it themselves. I am one.
I'm lucky it's not severe.
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HappyHappy
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Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 41
Yes, Quite Unfortunate Posted: 06-27-07 09:17am
Unfortunately, there isn't any help for
us. I'm schizophrenic and I can tell you
that it's painful and it never goes away.
And when we go through our "episodes", it
just so happens that our illness keeps us
from getting any kind of help at all.
What kind of illness is this?! You don't
trust anyone, the delusions keep you from
going to a hospital, all of our symptoms
work against us when we go through this,
in very crazy ways. The simplest things,
like somebody saying hello, can turn into
hellish horrible things.
And after we take our pills we may act a
bit saner, but we're not. It continues
and continues and it never goes away. It
is less painful, but it is only for a
little while, it's a progressive illness.
Basically, we're going straight through
hell in all of it's stupid glory.
I hope to meet your brother one day.
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HappyHappy
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Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 41
It Was Probably a Delusion. Posted: 06-29-07 11:02am
He was probably delusional about getting
counciling. Having some horrifying
thoughts about it probably. This will
keep us from getting help.
