Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 13 Location: adelaide aus
Posted: 12-01-05 08:34am
Well, im going to agree, but I also
disagree.
I lost my virginaty when I was 13, yeah I
was a early bloomer, he was my first bf, I
loved him, and I still love him, even
though its been 2years since we broke up.
I never will regret losing it to him!
But, I do know teenagers out there having
sex with guys they barley know, then
waking up the next day feeling like such a
"promiscuous person" it is a major
problem. And it does need to be delt
with, but those teenager that do have
kids, and raise there kids to be healthy,
welldone!!!
Sex is so cool, and great, until you get
pregnant, then your looked down on by
other people. Look around the world, we
have sex shoved in our face!!
"ill take you to the candy shop, ill let
you lick the lollie pop"
"my humps my humps my lovely lady lumps"
these songs, add's, what ever, are being
veiwed by children everywhere!
Its not there fault. Its the way we
live.
In school, they tell us how bad sex is,
yet, they know where going to have sex,
they know its going to happen, why dont
they tell kids where they can go get
condoms for free, there are clinic's out
there!! Girls can get "the pill" what
ever! With out there parents knowing!
They can get advice, councling, all free
of charge, sadly, I didnt know about any
of this until I was raped and the police
put me onto them for councleing..
Okay im done ranting, dont mind my
spelling, after all, I am a teen!
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kirztensmummy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 326 Location: london
Posted: 12-01-05 08:40am
xxtaraxx
wrote:
well, im going to agree, but
I also disagree.
I lost my virginaty when I was 13, yeah I
was a early bloomer, he was my first bf, I
loved him, and I still love him, even
though its been 2years since we broke up.
I never will regret losing it to him!
But, I do know teenagers out there having
sex with guys they barley know, then
waking up the next day feeling like such a
"highly available" it is a major problem.
And it does need to be delt with, but
those teenager that do have kids, and
raise there kids to be healthy,
welldone!!!
Sex is so cool, and great, until you get
pregnant, then your looked down on by
other people. Look around the world, we
have sex shoved in our face!!
"ill take you to the candy shop, ill let
you lick the lollie pop"
"my humps my humps my lovely lady lumps"
these songs, add's, what ever, are being
veiwed by children everywhere!
Its not there fault. Its the way we
live.
In school, they tell us how bad sex is,
yet, they know where going to have sex,
they know its going to happen, why dont
they tell kids where they can go get
condoms for free, there are clinic's out
there!! Girls can get "the pill" what
ever! With out there parents knowing!
They can get advice, councling, all free
of charge, sadly, I didnt know about any
of this until I was raped and the police
put me onto them for councleing..
Okay im done ranting, dont mind my
spelling, after all, I am a
teen!
that was impressive well said... To be
honest with you I felt that the message
was so sincere=) I think youre a tough
cookie.
Good luck on your endeavors in life
anna
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tigresacanela24
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 5261 Location: Treat your children well, eventually they'll choose your nursing home.
Posted: 12-01-05 10:33am
I just want to say that I don't care what
anyone says or how angry they get. I
believe that there is a problem with
morals in this nation. I believe that
people are giving something away that they
don't know the value of. Sex is not
meant for everyone that you think that you
love. I believe I was very mature when I
was 15 years old. I spent most of my
life being a mini adult with adult
responsibilities. I balanced a job,
school, and helping my mother with a good
number of a particular relative's children
that lived with us. I bought my own
clothes and clothes for some of those
children. I changed diapers, dressed
babies, combed hair, checked homework,
fixed snacks, balanced checkbooks, you
name it, I did it. But I knew somewhere
deep down inside of myself that I was not
ready for a relationship that required me
to show my "love" in that way. Of course
I was tempted, everyone is or we wouldn't
be human. But I recognized it for what
it was. Hormones. That's it. Nothing
more and nothing less. I'm exceedingly
glad that I didn't give in. I can't
remember anything about my boyfriend at
the time except his name and that I dated
him for 2 years. Oh yeah, he wore a lot
of black. That wasn't love. It was a
need to pair off and satisfy the hormones
that have started raging through the body.
My friends from high school and I often
joke around about the guys we were with
back then. None of us can honestly say
today that we were truly in love with
those guys. Back then we thought we were
but now we know better. I waited and I
am exceedingly glad I did. I'm not
knocking anyone for not making the same
decision. We are assuredly all
individuals with free will. But I do
believe that it doesn't hurt to be
absolutely sure that you want to do what
you're doing and also to make sure that
you behave responsibly. (that's a good
indicator of maturity right there). I
believe that if you have a problem asking
someone to wear a condom then that's not
someone you should be having sex with.
Period. I believe that you should know a
bit more about your own body first. Some
of the questions are just too much. I
don't try to beat people up for mistakes.
It happens. Life happens. You've got
to go on however you can. But when I see
babies raising babies, I get really upset.
It's like the blind leading the blind.
What benefit of experience can you give to
your child? None! You haven't
experienced anything! Don't get me
twisted here, i'm not mad at the people
involved but at the situation!
Especially since statistically speaking
most of these mothers end up with some
sort of governmental assistance and that
really hurts me. It's almost like you've
clipped your own wings before you ever had
a chance to fly....Whatever. It just
makes me angry, sad, and confused...
I don't want to get political or anything,
but I have to say there is way more
problems going on in this world than teen
sex! aids, guns,
etc....Don't discriminate!
Like I said before, "we live to learn".
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 12-01-05 13:23pm
oh_mommy
wrote:
i dont agree with you.
Teens haveing sex dosnt mean we are stupid
or not ready. Where I live you start
getting sex ed in grade 3 maybe abit
earlier I cant quite remember. I just
remember in grade 3 we had some lil puppet
guy. Anyways back to the point, you say
you dont think 12-16 year old understand
the meaning "making love" but I for one
do, maybe not all teens do. For
instance when me and my boyfriend are
having sex we call it being complete
because we both feel the part of us we've
been missing out whole lives is finnaly
there. We love eachother very much and
are planning to get engaged soon. I
know this dosnt happen to alot of teens,
but you have to admit when you were in
highschool even in middle school you heard
about sex in the halls. I know I did,
and even when we watch those corny movies
made way back when and they have teenage
sex, so you cant judge. I know people
are all brought up differnt.
Another thing, you can not blame parents
by saying "where are the parents for all
of this" because for one thing, my family
is always here, and they really tried to
stop us from pre-marital sex. My
grandfather always told me "the man will
always respect the woman more if she is a
virgin when they get married" either way
the man should repect the woman if they
are getting married...
And that was my point of veiw, please dont
discriminate
like I say"my children dont always listen
to what I said to them", but they will
never forget what I taught
them--just like you speak of grandpa
they are trying to fight "teens getting
abortions without parental consent",
i am so opposed to the child getting
abortion without parental consent, most of
the time. You cant even get ears pierced
or tatooed before 18 without parental
consent--but you can kill your parents
grandbaby. Huh
what do you all think?
I personally agree, but there are pros and
cons either way. I never believe in
abortion though--no matter what.
Truthfully joanna, I think you should go
to the abortion debate and ask that
question!
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LuvingMommy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 21 Location: California
Crazy....crazy....... Posted: 12-01-05 13:57pm
I was 17 when I had my son and I am now
29.......I wish I would have known then
what I know now. But, I think every
person and every situation is unique.
Some are ready some arent, but as parents
we need to teach our children about
respecting there body and not using sex as
a way to show love to every person they
feel love for. I have known girls
(including myself) that have had children
at a young age and went on to being great
mothers (and fathers). I have also known
girls who need there children taken from
them. It is sad to see a child grow up to
soon, but for some it is not a choice, it
is the cards they were delt. Who are any
of us to judge? I will teach my children
to finish being a child before trying to
be an adult. Go to college and have fun
before changing pampers. But, if my child
comes home and tells me the news.....I
will love them all the same.
Love, tammy
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kirztensmummy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 326 Location: london
Posted: 12-01-05 14:03pm
Like what michelle said...There are more
complicated situations and problems that
this world is facing rather than this...Im
not saying that its nothing to be
concerned about but its still up to the
teenager (individual) to make a choice and
face the consequences and as parents,
older sisters, or friends of theses
individuals all you could do is advise and
support them. Criticising them wont do
any good it will just destroy their self
esteem which sometimes leads to being an
introvert, self denial or sometimes
suicide.
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tigresacanela24
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 5261 Location: Treat your children well, eventually they'll choose your nursing home.
Posted: 12-01-05 14:18pm
michelle1981
wrote:
i don't want to get
political or anything, but I have to say
there is way more problems going on in
this world than teen sex! aids,
guns, etc....Don't
discriminate!
Like I said before, "we live to
learn".
so what are you saying? That we should
ignore one problem because there's another
problem out there? How does anything
get solved that way? Aids is another
reason why people should be worried about
the teenage sex problem. If there are
this many teens having unprotected sex and
winding up pregnant you don't think they
could wind up with aids? Just another
reason for them to learn to respect their
bodies and not sleep with everyone that
they think they are in love with. Guns?
Guns aren't a problem, people are the
problem. In my opinion that ties into
the respect yourself theme. If you are
taught to have respect--respect for
yourself, for others, for something as
basic as life, you won't run around trying
to settle every dispute with a gun.
Anyway, all I really wanted to say before
I got on my soapbox is, a problem is a
problem. You can't ignore one for
another. They all need a solution.
I'm not a believer in the picking "the
lesser of two evils". Hey, it's all
bad.
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LuvingMommy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 21 Location: California
Posted: 12-01-05 14:30pm
I agree, this world has so many major
problems it is crazy. We need to support
our teens and not push them to the side or
place judgement on them when they have
made a choice that some feel was not
right.
However it is a major problem in the
inner-cities. If we brake it down and
really look at it, it really is a major
problem. But I don't feel it is about
teens, it is about people haveing babies
that can not provide for them. And the
sad thing is they don't stop at one baby,
they keep having them knowing they cannot
take care of them. When I watch the news,
or just go to visit my family in philly, I
give my son extra love because it makes me
sad to see all of these babies being born
and not being taken care of. Anyway, I
have to say "to all the teen parents who
have put their children at the top of
there list and made their children number
one in their lives, I have so much respect
for you!"
love, tammy
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kirztensmummy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 326 Location: london
Posted: 12-01-05 14:38pm
luvingmommy
wrote:
i agree, this world has so
many major problems it is crazy. We need
to support our teens and not push them to
the side or place judgement on them when
they have made a choice that some feel was
not right.
However it is a major problem in the
inner-cities. If we brake it down and
really look at it, it really is a major
problem. But I don't feel it is about
teens, it is about people haveing babies
that can not provide for them. And the
sad thing is they don't stop at one baby,
they keep having them knowing they cannot
take care of them. When I watch the
news, or just go to visit my family in
philly, I give my son extra love because
it makes me sad to see all of these babies
being born and not being taken care of.
Anyway, I have to say "to all the teen
parents who have put their children at the
top of there list and made their children
number one in their lives, I have so much
respect for you!"
does philly stand for philippines(as I am
also a filipina)? If yes I agree that
most families there dont stop at one baby
if they cant support them and just depend
on others...I disagree with abortion
however we have to make sure that if we
got kids we could provide them a comfy
life and a lot of love. Having an
unplanned pregnancy once is prob
acceptable but doing it again is taking a
piss or you just dont care about the lives
that youre bringing up
love, tammy
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 12-01-05 14:41pm
michelle1981
wrote:
truthfully joanna, I think
you should go to the abortion debate and
ask that
question!
this subject has to do with teen
pregnancy---and so does my statement.
I dont want to start a debate--just
wondering how pple feel about teens
getting abortions without parental
consent.
i don't want to get
political or anything, but I have to say
there is way more problems going on in
this world than teen sex! aids,
guns, etc....Don't
discriminate!
Like I said before, "we live to
learn".
so what are you saying? That we should
ignore one problem because there's another
problem out there? How does anything
get solved that way? Aids is another
reason why people should be worried about
the teenage sex problem. If there are
this many teens having unprotected sex and
winding up pregnant you don't think they
could wind up with aids? Just another
reason for them to learn to respect their
bodies and not sleep with everyone that
they think they are in love with.
Guns? Guns aren't a problem, people
are the problem. In my opinion that
ties into the respect yourself theme.
If you are taught to have respect--respect
for yourself, for others, for something as
basic as life, you won't run around trying
to settle every dispute with a gun.
Anyway, all I really wanted to say before
I got on my soapbox is, a problem is a
problem. You can't ignore one for
another. They all need a solution.
I'm not a believer in the picking "the
lesser of two evils". Hey, it's all
bad.
i never said we should ignore
anything...
Tigresacanela24 teens having sex is wrong
and we all know teens are the ones who
spread diseases and aids only......Come on now.
So when you are 20,30,40 you know
everything?
I agree, girls shouldn't just give all
they got to any tom, d ick and harry.
They should respect themselves. That also
goes for "mature" women.
I do think that parents have the greatest
responsibility to inform their kids, and I
also agree it should be taught in school.
Mistakes/accidents happen though.
This forum is great for young girls/boys
to get what they may be lacking.....
Knowledge and/or support.
Enjoy your soap
:d
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kirztensmummy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 326 Location: london
Posted: 12-01-05 14:52pm
Does philly stand for philippines(as I am
also a filipina)? If yes I agree that
most families there dont stop at one baby
if they cant support them and just depend
on others...I disagree with abortion
however we have to make sure that if we
got kids we could provide them a comfy
life and a lot of love. Having an
unplanned pregnancy once is prob
acceptable but doing it again is taking a
piss or you just dont care about the lives
that youre bringing up.
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LuvingMommy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 21 Location: California
Posted: 12-01-05 14:53pm
Ya, abortion is another
subject.....................
No, I was talking about philidelphia, pa.
It is on the east coast of the united
states. It is very sad to watch no matter
where it is. To even sit here and think
about it is hard. But when you see it up
close it is even harder........... Lack
of education, lack of love...These all add
to the problem. It is a cycle that will
continue until someone steps in and shows
them different. Crazy, crazy world we
live in huh............
Love, tammy
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kirztensmummy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 326 Location: london
Posted: 12-01-05 14:55pm
luvingmommy
wrote:
ya, abortion is another
subject.....................
No, I was talking about philidelphia, pa.
It is on the east coast of the united
states. It is very sad to watch no
matter where it is. To even sit here and
think about it is hard. But when you see
it up close it is even harder...........
Lack of education, lack of love...These
all add to the problem. It is a cycle
that will continue until someone steps in
and shows them different. Crazy, crazy
world we live in huh............
Love, tammy
ic sorry bout the confusion, lol, anyway I
understand how you feel but thats how the
cookie crumbles...
Regards
anna
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cece22221
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 10 Location: Indiana
So Would You Do It All Over Again? Posted: 12-01-05 15:18pm
Everyone on here has given their opinion
on this subject. My question is for
those who have had sex early and gotten
pregnant. Would you do it all over again
the same way? Like I said, I was 19 when
I got pregnant. I love my son very much,
and my husband (father of that son) just
as much if not more than I did then. But
if I could go back in time I would have
waited to have him. Don't get me wrong,
I woudln't give him up for anything in the
world nor my daughter and step son, but I
missed out on sooooo much. Yes I had
different experiences, and was able to go
out when ever I wanted to (my mom is a
wonderful grandma and loved my son and I
no matter what) but nothing can make up
for the years of being a child that you
lose. Yes at 19 I was still a child. I
wish iwould have gone to college and got
my degree, but I had to work full time adn
didn't want to take away time from my son.
I got a wonderful job in the dental field
and have made a wonderful career for
myself. But I missed out on the college
parties, and friends, and just simply
experiencing life on my own before having
another life to raise. 'at 28 (in a
week) I look back and think of what I
would have done differently and the one
thing that I always think is I would have
waited.
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buttercup_501
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Oregon
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Posted: 12-01-05 15:31pm
I believe that if your mature enough to
have sex then atleast be responsible. Use
protection and birth control. If you
can't be responsible about it, then dont
do it. Doesn't matter what age you are
at diseases can easily be spread and not
everyone you have sex with is ready for
children.
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tigresacanela24
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 5261 Location: Treat your children well, eventually they'll choose your nursing home.
Posted: 12-01-05 15:42pm
michelle1981
wrote:
tigresacanela24
wrote:
michelle1981
wrote:
i don't want to get
political or anything, but I have to say
there is way more problems going on in
this world than teen sex! aids,
guns, etc....Don't
discriminate!
Like I said before, "we live to
learn".
so what are you saying? That we
should ignore one problem because there's
another problem out there? How does
anything get solved that way? Aids
is another reason why people should be
worried about the teenage sex problem.
If there are this many teens having
unprotected sex and winding up pregnant
you don't think they could wind up with
aids? Just another reason for them
to learn to respect their bodies and not
sleep with everyone that they think they
are in love with. Guns? Guns
aren't a problem, people are the problem.
In my opinion that ties into the
respect yourself theme. If you are
taught to have respect--respect for
yourself, for others, for something as
basic as life, you won't run around trying
to settle every dispute with a gun.
Anyway, all I really wanted to say before
I got on my soapbox is, a problem is a
problem. You can't ignore one for
another. They all need a solution.
I'm not a believer in the picking "the
lesser of two evils". Hey, it's all
bad.
i never said we should ignore
anything...
Tigresacanela24 teens having sex is wrong
and we all know teens are the ones who
spread diseases and aids only......Come on now.
So when you are 20,30,40 you know
everything?
I agree, girls shouldn't just give all
they got to any tom, d ick and harry.
They should respect themselves. That
also goes for "mature" women.
I do think that parents have the greatest
responsibility to inform their kids, and I
also agree it should be taught in school.
Mistakes/accidents happen though.
This forum is great for young girls/boys
to get what they may be lacking.....
Knowledge and/or support.
Enjoy your soap
:d
okay when did I ever say that teens were
the "ones who spread diseases and aids
only"? I didn't. That really wasn't
nice of you to pretend like I did....
What I said (simplified because apparently
i'm being misunderstood) is if there's
such an abundance of unprotected sex (as
the pregnancy rate among teenage girls is
proving) then they are at risk for aids.
I thought something like that was common
sense. Unprotected sex is one of the
known risk factors for aids.
Did I say that at 20, 30, or 40 that you
know everything? No I did not. But
there is a world of difference between
what you know at 14 and what you know at
25. There's an enormous difference
between what you know at 14 and what you
know at 34. There is more experience
behind it.
I do agree with you that parents should
have the responsibility of informing their
children but how can you teach someone
what you yourself don't know?
Now if you'll notice we also agreed on the
respect yourself thing. If you'll
notice a couple more things maybe we can
clear this all up between us. I didn't
say that teenagers were the only ones with
respect issues. You brought up other
relevant societal problems and I also said
that I thought those were respect issues.
So you see, i'm not saying that it's
only teenagers. So I have no idea why
you think I am... I didn't attack
anyone. I'm not being unsupportive.
I have made supportive posts to the
teenagers who have posted here. If you
read my other post on this subject I said
"i'm not knocking anyone for not making
the same decision" (meaning no teenage
sex). I also said "i don't try to beat
people up for mistakes. It happens.
Life happens." it is the situation that
upsets me. Not the person.
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ryansmommy16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 72 Location: alabama
Posted: 12-01-05 15:44pm
Okay well here is my story.... I got
pregnant at 15 married at 15 and had my
son at 16. I have been married over a
year now. Here is what you got to
understand.. I was not a baby.. I was
more muture than my parents! My home life
made me grow up more quickly. My son gets
everything he needs he is a happy healthy
8 month old. I have been with my husband
since I was 10 and we love eachother we
were neighboors so we spent every second
together except at night. We even hung at
school. He just had his 20th b-day and I
will be 17 the 8th. I am in a yahoo
groups for teen mom and have gotten to
know a lot of young mothers and they to
took the responsiblities. From my
experience with ppl I know teen mothers
that are taking care of their children way
better than 30 years old I know. It is
actually sad how teen moms get stereo
typed. Not all of us leave our kids with
our moms and go out and party with our
friends. Not all of us depend on state
help not all of us are whores. My husband
is the only man I have ever known! I
understand where you are coming from but
with all do respect you are wrong. As
for abortion I do not beleive in it only
if the mothers life is in danger. I also
believe that parents should be consulted
if their child is planning to have an
abortion. A lot of girls do it in fear
of what their parents might say and if the
parents know then maybe they can reassure
them and support them and give then
another option. Knowing you aren't going
to be disowned is the best feeling.
