Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2 Location: United States
to Those Who Are Ignorant Posted: 02-14-07 00:23am
If you don't know what you are talking
about shut up!! We don't need your input.
And you're just making things harder for
those who actually are dealing with and
understand these things. You do sound
very ignorant and plain retarded.
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disengaging
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Posted: 03-15-07 22:47pm
Ok, so my first husband was bi-polar
Only, I never knew it, and didn't find out
until LONG after we got divorced, like 15
years later, and when I was told that he
finally was diagnosed as being severely
bipolar, my first thought was, "Well, that
certainly explains a lot!"
My younger sister is also bipolar. My
family just found this out as she and her
husband have been hiding her disease from
the rest of our family for many, many
years. We only recently found out after
she created a horrific scene at my mom's
house this past Thanksgiving, ending by
her stalking out of the house, screaming,
"I'll see you all in Hell!" I wasn't
there, I had enough of her drama queen
temper tantrums years ago. I heard all
about it though from my mom who cried
afterwards for 3 days solid!
As far as my ex-husband goes? Well, I had
7 years of "Oh my God what was I
thinking???" That I'm still working on
putting behind me. I left him the day I
not only found out he was cheating on me,
but his girlfriend was actually living in
our attic! I was almost grateful that
finally, he gave me a legitimate reason to
leave him that I could reconcile with my
religious and moral beliefs. Oh, he's
remarried. Poor woman. Poor poor woman.
No, I'm not just saying this. I don't
really know what's wrong with her, but
apparently her nerves are shot and they
expect she will soon be confined to a
wheelchair--and she's not even 50 yet. My
sister's husband? Oh, pretty much reduced
to a babbling fool, and now I suspect he's
REALLY in trouble for having told my
family that my sister threw her tantrum
because she went off her bi-polar meds!
Of all the many people on this planet,
these are the 2 I could live my life
quitely happily without ever hearing from
or seeing again.
No, it's really NOT OK to completely
destroy the lives of everyone around you
just because you have a "disorder". Both
of them might be somewhat capable of
civility if they would stay on their meds,
but they don't. They're no different from
any other addict other than the fact that
their drug of choice is NO drugs!
The reason your wife lays around and
sleeps all day? My guess is she's missing
her adreneline high from her manic phase.
She won't be able to last and probably go
off her meds soon--my ex and my sister
always do! Oh..MY..GOD....!! The things
they do!
Those here who are suggesting divorce?
Oh, I think they're serious, their
concerns, legitimate, and you may wish to
consider their recommendation before she
destroys the last shreds of your sanity as
well.
Take care!
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Lost17
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Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 10
Posted: 03-29-07 11:56am
My first suggestion to you: Dont be an
enabler. Do not allow her to be like
this. It is not fair to you. You must
think about yourself and your mental well
being. I watched my mother destroy my
fathers life. He did everything he could
do to help her. He went to counseling
with her, paid for the best doctors,
enrolled her in many programs...... on and
on..
But he also enabled her to lay in bed all
day and do nothing. Eventually she got so
bad that she put a gun to my brothers head
and attempted to kill him and then turned
it on my father. They finally divorced
after 25 yrs of this. I think the divorce
woke her up. Since the divorce she is
actively seeking help on her own. She is
also less manipulative and evil. Her and
my father are currently dating again and
seem much happier. It seems that in the
end, the person has to be willing to help
themselves. Be there and support her
through this, but do not be an enabler!
when it starts making you feel like less
of a person.....its time to get out.
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dion747
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Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Location: New York
Posted: 03-30-07 06:42am
Hi,
If you really love your wife, the first
thing I would do is research the
condition.
Go and seek help together. If she had
cancer, would you dump her? An illness is
a illness. You being distance or unsure
will not help her. I see some people
telling you to leave her. Might as well
put a pillow over her face while she is
out cold.
Bipolar is hard to live with, but first I
would make sure that is what she has. Get
more than one opinion. Work as a team,
although, she'll make it hard, if it's
important to you then you will feel good
about it in the end.
BTW
What I know about the disease,
I was Bipolar in the days when they were
still calling it personality disorder,
being force fed 400 mg of Thorzine daily.
Then it was called manic depression, and
now it's Bipolar. I get goverment
disability to be Bipolar for the past 10
years. As far meds go, I have been on and
off them, self medicated for years, and
now since, 1999, no meds at all, when you
can notice the trigger, you can prepare
better for the mood swings.
So as I said, make sure what you are
dealing with and work it out with her, it
could be meds, or something a silly as a
puppy that can bring calm into her life to
help her cope.
Good Luck
d.
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photochiq
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Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
Bipolar Wife Posted: 01-19-08 09:38am
After reading through the other responces
to your post I felt the need to respond.
I too have a partner with bipolar
disorder. I know what it is like to wake
up one morning and feel like the person
you just woke up next to is not the person
that you married. Your finances are a
mess you are stressed out and emotional,
you feel at times like there is not much
more of this that you can handle.
It is difficult everyday you are either
dealing with what is happening with your
spouse right now or you are dealing
internally with the things your spouse has
already done or where they will go next.
It is taxing but I do agree that you have
to think about wether your wife is worth
the effort. I wouldnt tell you to leave
her or to stay that decision is up to you.
Bipolar disorder has a way of wedging
itself right in between you and your
partner. I have been lied to, cheated on,
decieved, etc... the list goes on but you
know that. At the end of the day I always
try to remember that my partner is sick
and she wouldnt be doing this to me on
purpose. I have to remember that she
loves me too and if she is unable to get
off the couch or out of bed or if she is
manic and looking for the next good time
that it has nothing to do with me. That
part is really difficult.
Being patient with your partner and her
doctors while they sort out the best
treatments for her is so important.
Remeber that for whatever emotions you
have in terms of this illness your partner
feels even more. Someone made mention
to your inlaws think you are an angel and
your friends think you are nuts, it
couldnt be more true. I know most people
would run in the other direction and never
look back, but for me I love her very much
and I would hope if I were in her shoes
and she were in mine that she would do the
same for me. I hold onto the hope that
she would deside that I was worth the
effort and stand by my side, if only in
scilence.
If your wife is in treatment and seeing a
therapist and a shrink than hold on to the
hope because she is seeking help and wants
to get better. And believe she wants to
get better not only for herself but also
for you.
Something that humanity has thrown by the
wayside that I think is so important and
the reason for so many people just walking
away from their unions is that we forgot
along the way how to give someone
unconditional love. We replaced that with
egocentric ideals. If someone hurts us we
run, if someone gets sick we run, if
someone lies to us we run. We are always
running. Time to stop running.
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designlady
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Posted: 01-21-08 22:16pm
hottpinkgun0016
wrote:
Theres only one thing to
do.. Get a divorce.
Trust me, their violent..
Scary stuff man.
Okay. Let me just tell you something,
smarty! I was in this situation once,
except I was the wife who was unstable for
a long while! If it weren't for my caring,
loving husband to support me, I'd be
freakin' dead now. It's the ones we love
who need to love us back, not leave us for
a medical condition that we cannot control
without help! Sometimes meds don't work
and sometimes they take a while to get
used to.
And to you, original poster, the
husband--hang in there. My husband did and
I'm so thankful. Since I finally got on
the right meds, our marriage has grown
stronger every year. We are so close and I
thank him every day for not leaving me
because bipolar is "scary stuff." Yeah,
it's scary, but that doesn't mean you have
to run away from it. You vowed "for better
or for worse." Please prove to her that
you mean it.
For hotpinkgun0016, you know what you
deserve? To get bipolar disorder yourself
and have your spouse walk out on you when
you need her the most! Get a heart, man.
Lisa
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joeyisgood
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Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 2
Running bipolar wife Posted: 02-27-08 13:06pm
This is my first post so excuse me if i'm
asking questions that have been asked a
million times before.
Ok so check it out.... I've been married
for five years to a woman who was
diagnosed BP about 2 years ago..She
recently picked a fight, the usual
everything she does is my fault.... and
then left the home. Just days before she
left she was referring to a friend of hers
that had left her husband and was saying
how happy she was that she didn't run and
our life together is everything to her.
Been gone for three days now, staying with
a friend... and somehow dosen't understand
how her being gone effects anyone. (has
one child with me, and one from the
previous marriage) This is the first time
she has actually left. She had talked
about feeling the need to run before and
cycles about 4 times a year. She is on
meds but dosen't take them consistently,
if I ask about them, I'm a controlling
tyrant.
My main question is in everyone's
experience, how long does it take for this
kind of thing to pass? I'm just asking for
your experiences, I know that there are no
definite rules regarding BP. I also know
that it may never pass.
Also, whats the best way to go about
letting her know how much this is
effecting all involved, that I do want her
to feel safe and be able to work out
whatever she is going through without
running.
Any advise would be great.....And to all
you "get a divorce" people: please do me a
favor and don't respond to my question. I
would be in a legal forum asking questions
if thats what I was looking for.
Thanks All!
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designlady
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Posted: 02-27-08 15:32pm
This thing doesn't really "pass," but can
be controlled if she will stay on her
meds. That's probably what's got her so
out of whack. Does she see a therapist?
Can you go with her to voice your concern?
The therapist can help you communicate
with her more effectively since that's one
thing they're trained to do. You may also
want to get one of the kids to call just
to say, "Miss you, Mom. Love you. Please
come home soon." Also, you may want to
seek advice on how to remind her about her
meds without being a "controlling tyrant."
I once had a watch that beeped every time
I had to take something, but that's when I
was taking meds 4 or 5 times a day. I
don't need it now since it's basically
once in the AM and once in the PM. My
husband still asks occasionally if I've
had my meds, but it certainly doesn't
offend me.
Good luck to you. PM me if you need to.
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joeyisgood
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Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 2
Just to be clear Posted: 02-27-08 15:51pm
When i said "thing" i didnt mean BP. I
meant the "running" cycle.
Thanks for the advise.
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noisesnob
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Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 23 Location: ,
wow Posted: 02-27-08 22:20pm
The people who responded here who are NOT
bipolar and generalizing way out of
proportion here make it sound like people
with the disorder are completely mindless,
incapacitated members of society! Well,
thanks. I plan on getting married and
living out a happy, healthy
relationship.... even if I am bipolar!
oh and disengaging... I found your
response particularly disgusting.
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designlady
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Re: wow Posted: 02-28-08 10:57am
noisesnob
wrote:
I found your response
particularly
disgusting.
Who's response?
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noisesnob
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Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 23 Location: ,
not yours! Posted: 02-28-08 13:41pm
design lady, you left a good response.
cute kitty!
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designlady
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Posted: 02-28-08 14:20pm
Whew! Thanks, noisesnob.
Thanks, I love my kitty, too. That one's
only 9 months old, but she's SO big.
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steve sbg007
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Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 9
my wife Posted: 05-18-08 19:11pm
I am at the end of my rope.I truly love my
wife,but it seems that around summer she
goes insane[at this time anything can
trigger this].What i mean is she leaves me
to go to her mothers and do as she
pleases.She says she is so confused,but if
you only knew her mother..well she would
be better off anywhere else[her mother
does'nt love her,never has].At anyrate I
can [and have]deal with almost anything
but I'm sick of this.I'm willing to help
her but I cant when she makes it
imposible. She may have bipolar,but does
it justify this type behavior or am I a
fool?
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antigone
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Posted: 05-18-08 23:57pm
You are not a fool. You may not recognize
the fact that she is not stable. Spring
time for those with bipolar disorder is a
nightmare. They become manic and this
leads to some very disruptive behavior.
She will be back. She needs to see her
doctor and have her medications
reevaluated. Perhaps a dose adjustment is
needed. Her doctor should be made aware of
her behavior. I know it can be difficult
to get someone treatment if they don't
want it. When she comes home she is likely
to be less manic. Approach her then and
try to convince her to go to the doctor
with you. Log the behaviors you have seen
so the doctor gets an accurate picture of
what has been going on.
Try to realize what is driving her
behavior. It may make it easier to deal
with when you know it is due to an
illness.
Do you go to any support group? This may
be something to consider if you don't
already go to one. You can get some great
advice, suggestions and feedback. You will
have somewhere to unload with people who
understand everything you are going
through. People who don't live with the
illness or have a loved one with the
illness have little comprehension for how
it effects your life.
Bipolar disorder does not give someone a
free pass to misbehave. Medications should
be adjusted every spring, in my opinion.
It may prevent some of the manic episodes
for some people.
I know this doesn't help much. Just know
you are not along in this. We are here and
will offer any suggestions we can. Let us
know how you are doing.
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steve sbg007
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Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 9
my wife Posted: 05-21-08 09:42am
thank you for your reply
I will be seeing her this weekend,I need
all the advice I can get.How can I talk to
her about coming home and getting help?Is
there a way to approach her and reason
with her without her going into a
frenzy[she avoids reality and the strain
this is putting on our relationship at all
cost].I must add that the longer she's
away from home the worse her mind
becomes.What can I do and say to get
through?
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