I have lower back pain stemming from a few
sports and weightlifting injuries. An mri
revealed l5-s1 herniation and
degeneration.
The pain is in the low back, and never
really in the legs unless it flares up
really badly. When the pain gets at its
worst, I can't stand up straight past
about 90 degrees. It only gets that bad
roughly once every several months or so.
Sitting for long periods makes it get
worse, walking does seem to help.
Therapy, yoga, walking, new bed,
chiropractor adjustments; these have
helped only a little.
The doctor said the herniation could be
removed by surgery, but he didn't
recommend it, mainly because he didn't
think my back was bad enough. I never
really understood if the pain I have is
due to the herniation or the degeneration
(or both). I am wondering if the surgery
would eliminate the pain, or could I end
up worse?
I've had this pain now for a couple of
years, and i'm only about 30 yrs old. I
was hoping it would eventually go away,
but it hasn't. I'm just wondering what
else I can do, and if I should consider
surgery.
Any comments appreciated.
Thanks
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bootsie840
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 113 Location: pennsylvainaia
Posted: 12-17-03 08:55am
I have the same problems, im staying away
from the surgery, having friends that have
had surgery, they dont feel any better,
some feel worse, as far as your pain I
dont think it will ever go away, its a
matter of living with it, so im told. It
sucks big time, I use a home tens unit,
which seems to offer me more relief than
any chiro- therapy has, right now im into
taking, herbal supp, devils claw, st johns
wart, , there suppose to promote healthy
bones, ease pain, relieve inflamed nerves.
As for surgery as you know everyone
responds differently. You might have a
great comeback, its a very hard decission
to make good luck.
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mld1218
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 6 Location: Ontario
Back Pain Posted: 12-27-03 11:44am
I understand what you are going through.
I am 28 years old and I have had 4 back
surgerys the first was when I was 16. At
that time I didn't have a choice I had to
have the surgery because we had already
put it off for 2 years. The first
surgery was just a fusion in the same
location that your having trouble in.
The doctor just fused the bone and that
was it. Well the fusion broke and I had
to have another surgery when I was 20.
This time the doctor put rods and screws
in my back and the pain was still there
well it turns out that the next level
above my fusion the ligamite in the disk
had broke so we had to do it again and
then last year on dec 9 I had another one
because my whole fusion had broke and
nothing in my back was stable. I was
very lucky that something worse didn't
happen it seems I could have very easyly
had ended up in a wheel chair by just the
smallest accident. My last surgery was 7
hours and my doctor fused my back again
and now I have rods and screws in the
front and back of my spine and the doctor
says there is no way I should break this
time. But I had seen him in dec for my
one year appointment and he told me that
he doesn't think I can work again. The
pain has never gone away. Now that I
have had all these surgerys I will never
be without pain. I will tell you if I
had to do it all again I wouldn't have had
the first surgery. I never thought
that by the time I was 28 I would have had
4 already. It's not a fun experience
it's very painful and a long time
recovering. I had met another patient of
my doctors the last time I was there and
he had had his first surgery the same one
I had the first time and he feel great so
you just never know. My advise for you
is don't do it unless you have no choice
at all. It should be the last resort
because once you do it once the chances of
having to do it again are good. If you
do have to do it make sure you have a very
good doctor. My first doctor was not
very good at all and i'm the one paying
for it still 12 years later and for the
rest of my life. I wish you all the luck
in the world and know there are people out
there that do know what your going
through. We just have to accept that
this is it and deal with it. I always
think of people that are worse off who
can't walk and at least I can do that. I
might be in pain every day but at least I
can still walk and do things for myself.
I hope this helps a little the main thing
to remember is your not alone.
Good luck michelle
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rupus2020
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 1 Location: south
Posted: 12-28-03 19:02pm
I had a laminectomy in november and pain
free knock on wood.My l-5 was severely
ruptured.I did not have fusion done.My
neurosurgeon did a myleogram and catscan
to identify the problem. I assume he
removed the fragments that were pinching
the nerves.
Luckily,i had taken prednisone to take
away the inflammation before the
myleogram.The myleogram is no cakewalk,if
you are lucky,you wont have intense
headaches.It made me feel like I had
pneumonia,it hurt my lungs to breathe
afterwards.
Two weeks after surgery,i was back to work
not lifting anything over 20 pounds.I am
now very cautious of what I pick up and
not to make any sudden movements.I would
suggest seeing a neurosurgeon,rather than
an orthopedic,think they rather do fusions
for some reason.Everyone i've heard that
had fusions had problems of some sort.
I was seeing a chiropractor when my back
first went out.He seemed to help me until
I ran out of money.I had no insurance,no
workmans comp and a young family to
feed.Luckily,with the help of the state,i
was able to get some help.Without friends
and family,i would have been homeless.
The surgery really amazed me.Soon as I
woke up,i noticed I had the strength back
in my leg.Before,i couldnt lift it laying
down.The first place I went to just wanted
to do nerve blocks,a tire patch moreless.I
didnt have the money for it anyway,2000
bucks for mri and they didnt even give me
a price for the nerve blocks.
If you or anyone are like me without
insurance,ask your family doctor what
options your state has for you.Luckily my
doctor is my first cousin and none of this
would have been possible without her.
Good luck
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alize
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 4
Surgery L5-s1, Options. Posted: 12-30-03 01:46am
Make sure to exhaust all your options
before surgery. Epidural block shots,
traction, tens unit are all things that
may provide you with enough relief to
avoid surgery.
I just had surgery on 12/06/03, and 3
weeks later I feel better, though a long
road of recovery is still in front of me
before I know exactly how well it all will
be. My surgery was a discetomy with
fusion at the l5-s1. Be mentally
prepared for surgery if this becomes the
only option. The pain for the first
couple of days after it is quite
incredible. I will keep this post short,
which is not normal for me, but if you
would like more information on what to
expect after surgery, please feel free to
contact me at alize@cfl.R
r.Com, I would be more then happy to
tell you more.
I wish you the best and hope that you find
something that provides you with comfort.
Trust us you are not alone with the pain
you are experiencing. Also, if you are
not satisfied with what this doctor is
telling you, make sure to get another
opinion.
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gerg
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 25 Location: MO
Back Pain Posted: 01-03-04 16:38pm
Everybody has good advice as I did have
surgery also. I have ddd and had a
pinched nerve in my lower back with siatic
nerve pain down my right leg. My dr told
me I would have a oral roberts experience
or what everybody else has and that was
pain every so often. That was 4-1/2 years
ago. I continued to have back nerve pain
until march of 2002 when someone
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After taking this supplement I noticed
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a friend with a bad back who also played
lots of sports with even better results.
If anybody is interested in trying them
let me know. Gamurph
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greg
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chetstrzepa
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 2
Posted: 01-09-04 11:53am
I appreciate all the responses. I know a
few people who have had surgeries to
remove herniations, I don't know the
medical terminology. It seems like most
of them ended up better off than I am now.
I do know one person who had a fusion that
involved pins, and it didn't work. He
ended up on disability and pain pills. He
claims acupuncture has got him off the
pain pills, but a lot of frequent visits
covered by workman's comp. My insurance
won't cover acupunture.
Has anyone tried acupunture? I haven't
looked into the tens units either yet;
they sound interesting.
Indeed, i'll heed the general advice here
to go to surgery as a last resort. I
actually have to have an acl repair done
on my knee first, and that will take
priority over my back for awhile.
Chet
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gerg
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 25 Location: MO
Pack Pain Posted: 01-09-04 12:06pm
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