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Q: Chances...
asked by: scaredreally on November 14th, 2005
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Hey I was just wondering what the percentages (i know its not definite) are of having sexual intercourse on one occasion with someone hiv . Are there still chances of not contracting it? I understand that protection is absolutely important but i'd like a real estimate not one that is altered by worries of giving the wrong example to others. Thanks in advance =]
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scaredreally
replied on November 14th, 2005
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Wow seriously? That has to be way off. 25% w/ condom? That is in no way realistic.
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cd998776
replied on November 14th, 2005
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Many (in fact, nearly all) also have pin point holes that occur naturally in the latex. These holes are big enough for sperm and hiv to get through.
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x0x011
replied on November 14th, 2005
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Condoms do not have pin point holes. If you have a pperfectly new condom which has been stored correctly, there shouldnt be holes in it. Hiv and bodily fluids cannot penetrate through condoms, or else what would be the point of using them? Risk comes into play when people do not use condoms correctly, like when they get left inside the female, or if it is not removed correctly and spills, or when it is no put on correctly and breaks.
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cd998776
replied on November 14th, 2005
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You'd be surprised.... How many do have pin point holes. Most are not enough to cause a problem, therefore aren't problems, but they do exist. Sure, if you have a perfect condom, and use it perfectly, then your chances are nearly 0%, but the fact of the matter is, most condoms aren't perfect, and they are often not used correctly.
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fern123
replied on November 14th, 2005
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It is absurd to claim that one-third of condoms are defective. While it is true that some condoms may be defective, as per fda standards, the number is less than 4/1000.
Don't believe false information spread by propagandists. Non-defective condoms when used correctly without slippage or breakage can effectively protect from hiv and many stds. Most brothels in nevada have had no incidence of hiv among the prostitutes over several years. How would this be possible if condoms were useless? Also, a study in europe observed 120 couples with one partner hiv and the other hiv-. After one year of having sex with condoms, none of the hiv- partners were infected.
As for the chance of a one-time intercourse with a hiv person, it is about 1 in 100 without a condom. With a condom it is 10000 times more safer than without a condom i.E 1 in a million.
Of course, it is true that condoms are not as safe as "no sex". That is why, is always better to follow the abc principle - abstinence, be faithful to your spouse, use condoms when necessary.
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cd998776
replied on November 14th, 2005
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Like I said, the chances are slim, but are possible and it does happen. Sure it's safer with a condom, but my point is it's not a 100% gaurentee. Sure 4 of 1000 seems like a small number, but when you think of how many condoms a couple could use in one night, 1, 2, 3, 4 , it adds up quickly.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you shouldn't use condoms, you absolutley should!, i'm just saying that you shouldn't consider it a 100% gaurentee, and then say, well I used a condom, I can't have hiv, be pregnant, etc...
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scaredreally
replied on November 15th, 2005
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fern123 wrote:
it is absurd to claim that one-third of condoms are defective. While it is true that some condoms may be defective, as per fda standards, the number is less than 4/1000.

Don't believe false information spread by propagandists. Non-defective condoms when used correctly without slippage or breakage can effectively protect from hiv and many stds. Most brothels in nevada have had no incidence of hiv among the prostitutes over several years. How would this be possible if condoms were useless? Also, a study in europe observed 120 couples with one partner hiv and the other hiv-. After one year of having sex with condoms, none of the hiv- partners were infected.

As for the chance of a one-time intercourse with a hiv person, it is about 1 in 100 without a condom. With a condom it is 10000 times more safer than without a condom i.E 1 in a million.

Of course, it is true that condoms are not as safe as "no sex". That is why, is always better to follow the abc principle - abstinence, be faithful to your spouse, use condoms when necessary.


thanks fern for your information, I find your statement alot more precise. Do you mind posting the source for the 1/100 chance for a single time intercourse with an hiv person?

Thanks again
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kiklis2k
replied on November 16th, 2005
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Probabilty of Getting Infected
It is true that the probability of getting infected ranges from 1 in 100 to 1 in 10,000 in a single exposure. But this applies to healthy people.

If the person has other ailments, and is used to drugs, alcohol and other activities, his body immunity may be considerably lower than needs and the probability could still be higher.

So, the only way to be sure is to be tested. Do not scare yourself that you could be 1 in that 10000. Just get tested and be happy.

Good luck
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Finess150
replied on January 20th, 2006
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It Comes Down To...
If you want to have sex but don't want to get hiv, condoms are you're only option. So there's no point worrying about how many have 'pin-point' holes.
If you're not prepared to take the extremely tiny risk during protected sex, then abstain from it all together.
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BobtheSailor
replied on December 5th, 2009
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OMG AM I GOING TO GET IT?
omg i lost my virginity a couple nights ago and i think the girl probably has hiv cause she is like 16 and slept with around 12 guys but i find out that after wards(i didn't cum) that the condom was old and was throwen in the washer, so of course i was pissed off at my friend lol!
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