I turned 18 a few months back. I've been
depressed since I was 16. I don't have a
close nor a best friend to confide in.
Three days ago, for the first time, I cut
myself. I couldn't get enough with just
one cut; I cut myself 7 times that night.
I know I shouldn't have done it, but when
I hold the razor with my fingers, I just
wasn't myself anymore. The next day, I
was all impatient for the night to arrive
so that I could do it again. I cut myself
four times that night.
Yesterday, when I woke up, I cut myself
once. Then I told a friend about it. I
just had to tell someone about it. I
don't know him very well, so I was pretty
much assured that he wouldn't tell my
parents about it. He kept telling me to
"seek professional help".. After that, I
cut myself 6 more times during the day and
twice at night..
Am I addicted to this cutting business..?
How do I stop..? Can I stop without
seeking help from anyone..? Letting my
parents know about it is the last thing I
wanna do.. Please help.
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alonewithouthope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 3 Location: newark ohio
a Friend Willing to Help Posted: 11-10-05 00:17am
Once you start cutting its hard to stop
and even when you do tell people its even
harder because they look at you like your
crazy and want to put you on all kinds of
drugs i'm 15 now and ive been cutting
seince I was 10 and I havent stopped a day
in my 5 years I cant go a day one day
without dragging a razor down my
arms.........I dont know if I can help you
stop but im here if you need someone to
talk to im the same as you
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september65
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 19
Posted: 11-10-05 03:02am
alonewithouthope
wrote:
they look at you like your
crazy and want to put you on all kinds of
drugs
am I crazy..? I've always wondered if I
am.. But I always tell myself that i'm
not, because I always think, "crazy people
won't be able to ask themselves if they're
crazy or not." i'm not a psychologist or
whatsoever, so that's the best I can come
up with.. But seriously, can I be
crazy..? <--- see, to be able to ask
that question, I always assume that i'm
not.. But am i..? Sigh... :(
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alonewithouthope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 3 Location: newark ohio
Your Not Crazy Posted: 11-10-05 05:03am
Your not crazy its just something is wrong
and like I said if you tell someone you
cut and you like the feeling the look at
you like your crazy and tell you well you
need to fix this you need to fix that you
need to get out more you need to stop
leaving in the past they tell you all
kinds of crap crazy people dont know their
crazy but everyone knows when something is
wrong but no drug no nothing can ever make
you better less you want to help your self
first (witch I dont find true but thats
what they tell ya)
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catswold
Supporter
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Flint, Michigan
Posted: 11-10-05 17:05pm
Hi september,
i don't think you are crazy. I think you
are hurting and want to feel something,
anything. Personally, I can't stand to
be in pain so I don't think I could cut
myself, but I always liked getting sick
when I was a kid so I could finally get
some attention.
I wrote to alonewithout.... Earlier. My
heart goes out to you both. I'm an old
person to you (51), sheesh, i'm a old
person to myself. But I remember the
pain of not having friends in school, not
what I would call a true friend anyway.
My way to cope was to eat, so I am fat.
Something had to make me feel good.
Cutting is your way to feel good in a
different way. You want to feel. I
think a therapist would say you are
wanting attention.
Well, we all want attention! We all want
people to think we are important and
matter. Sadly, the human race isn't like
that and it actually seems to be growing
further apart as my years go by.
Everyone lives a too-fast life and can't
stop and smell the roses. And you and
alone are the roses.
I don't want to write a book like I did
with alone because i'm sure you are
probably getting bored. I don't know
what to tell you about the cutting. I
would think it's dangerous, but i'm sure
you've thought of that. I think what's
more important is that you feel like you
matter and you do. You never know what's
going to happen tomorrow or next year or
ten years. You may become the mother or
grandmotherof a u.S. President, who
knows.
I think you should get some help, but i'm
not sure where. I'm not a therapist. I
can understand you not wanting to go to
your parents. Is there any adult at your
school that you trust? Can you check if
there are any free help places in your
area? You are 18 now and I don't think
anyone can tell your parents what you are
doing without your consent. I hope and
pray that you will be able to confide in
your parents soon though, but I also
understand your hesitation.
Please don't just let this slide. Become
active in helping yourself. You are
important, very important in this world.
And you may be surprised at how many
people actually do love and like you but
can't or won't tell you that. We all
have our own little problems and sometimes
it's just not possible to forget our
problems to help others with their
problems.
Please email me anytime you want. I hope
you and lonely continue emailing to each
other but don't start any pity parties
without me.
Hey carol, reeading your reply made me
smile. Thank you.. =)
i knew I cut because I wanted attention..
There's no doubt about that.. But after I
cut myself, I hide my wounds. I get
scared when people stare at them or if
someone asked what happened.. It's so
weird...
I don't know why do I have or keep a
cellphone.. The only time it rings is in
the middle of the night.. My siblings
will call me to unlock the doors because
my parents lock them out for passing
curfew. I always wonder when I see other
teens yapping on the phone for hours, what
do they have to talk about...??
Hey alonewithouthope, I know what you mean
about "helping yourself".. My aunt (who's
single) had depression too a few years
back, and my dad took her to a
psychiatrist.. His other siblings scolded
him (they think that he shouldn't take her
to a psychiatrist), but my dad knew that
he was doing what's right for her and told
them, "if my children had the same
problem, i'd take them to a psychiatrist
as well." this scares me.. I don't want
to see a psychiatrist.. Probably that's
why i'm not gonna tell my parents about
this..
Oh, by the way.. I'm male..
catswold
wrote:
you may become the mother or
grandmotherof a u.S. President, who
knows.
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Kittykatus
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 89 Location: United Kingdom
Re: a Friend Willing to Help Posted: 11-11-05 07:07am
alonewithouthope
wrote:
once you start cutting its
hard to stop and even when you do tell
people its even harder because they look
at you like your crazy and want to put you
on all kinds of
drugs
see I hate that. I hate that just because
you find a way to relieve tension inside
you, people instantly think of you as
problematic and therefore need some sort
of drug pumped into you. Where's the old
fashioned friendly help called
'talking'?!
Though it's a pain to talk to some people
about it, were always happy to listen.
You guys listen to me as well as everyone
else, so were all ears! :)
xx
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catswold
Supporter
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Flint, Michigan
Posted: 11-11-05 12:20pm
Oops, it would be a little difficult to
beome a mother wouldn't it? But who
knows, with all the advances in science
these days......... :)
talking on the telephone - that is a big
one. I never had any trouble whenever I
had a boyfriend, but other than that I
never knew what to say. I still don't
know what to say sometimes, many times and
I don't have a cell phone (i did, but it
was never used for calling out or in).
It's interesting that you just brought
that up about not knowing what to say. I
was thinking about that 2 days ago and saw
a book that supposedly will teach me how
to talk to people. I can download it
over the net for $30 bucks, but that's
expensive for me for something I don't
think could really work. But you never
know.. ;) if you are interested, i'll
send the web address to you when I go home
(at work, lunch right now).
Who knows, maybe one of us could find out
how to talk to people and teach each
other. Mind you, I am not a shrinking
violet or wall flower. I am a secretary
to a police chief is a pretty large city
so I know how to talk to people, I always
try to be pleasant and smile a lot. But
if we were to walk outside of the office,
no way.
I know that we're suppose to try and get
interested in the other person's life.
Notice little things they say and do and
expand from there. We're not suppose to
focus very much on ourselves. And the
biggest thing I have heard is that we are
supposed to be good listeners. I guess I
haven't been or done any of those
things.
Well, i've written too much as it is so I
better close. Try and come up with a
hobby that will distract you from wanting
to cut yourself (like stamp collecting,
gag). I have been told to do that
though.
Take care and god bless...
Carol
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monk
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 8
Posted: 11-11-05 13:03pm
I never cut but know what it means to be
utterly alone, even in a crowd.
Depression was my constant companion,
spent the 1st half of my life a total
introvert and living in fear.
Even so, knew instinctively there were
wonders beyond the thin veil of life and
that I would find peace, and I have. It
all began with one word, hu.
Sounds too simple, but the mind cannot
grasp what lies outside itself and will
fight you to the end to remain in control.
You already know what that feels like.
We are not our mind or our emotions, we
are soul and exist apart from the temporal
reality of the physical world. But, we
use the mind, emotions and the physical
body to gain experience here. I know i'm
going on but can't stop till this is fully
explained.
Soul knows by direct perception, it does
not think, just knows and imagines. The
mind imagines too so don't be deceived,
when mind imagines it creates negative
images and thoughts that are destructive.
Soul only creates what is healthy and good
for us, so now you have a way to know if
it's you or the mind that's in control.
How does one wrestle control away from the
mind and emotional body?
Sing hu, it is a powerful and ancient name
for god. It is non-denominational anyone
can sing it. Even if you don't believe
there is a god it works, if you do it
properly.
This is key, sing it with as open a heart
as possible. Works best when sung with
gratitude for life itself, as a thank you
for just being alive. If you can count
blessings beyond that you're on a roll.
You are soul and you exist because god
loves you, just because, not because you
deserve it but because god is love and can
do no less. Totally unconditional.
I share this because this has transformed
my life beyond measure.
Sing aloud when alone for greatest effect.
Also works when sung quietly inside
oneself. Anymore I sing it almost all the
time, just a little hu on my outward
breath.
Pronounced like the name hugh but drawn
out huuuuuuuuuu
do with this info as you wish.
Monk
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september65
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 19
Posted: 11-12-05 04:11am
It's so true.. You do something that
makes you happy, and some people think
that you're crazy.. Talking is good, but
I think they rather not talk to us because
they don't know what to say and what not
to say, afraid that what they say might
provoke us to do something worse..
I've been cutting a lot less these days..
I've been doing stuff that make me happy;
like singing, playing with my dogs,
playing the piano and scribbling on
paper.. Haha.. You may call me
'not-cool', but I love singing music from
the golden era and playing phantom of the
opera on the piano.. =)
hu... How do I sing hu..? Do I replace
the "la la la la" with "hu hu hu hu"..?
Just wondering.. Anyhow, thank you all so
much.. You're all such nice people..
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monk
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 8
Singing Hu Posted: 11-12-05 09:47am
Sing the name hugh like it's a word in a
song but draw it sort of like
hhhuuuuuuuuuoooooooo
enjoyed your last post, that's the spirit,
cool is an illusion, joy is the natural
state of soul which is you.
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september65
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 19
Posted: 11-18-05 09:46am
I can't.. I just can't stop.. I tried
to, but I only lasted 3 days without
cutting.. The next day, I started to cut
myself again.. I cut myself so many
times, so deep, it actually hurt.. Then I
noticed that my blade was rusty.. I hope
I don't get an infection of any sort..
What should I do..? What are the risks am
I at for cutting with a rusty blade..?
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catswold
Supporter
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Flint, Michigan
Posted: 11-18-05 10:23am
Can you go to a clinic or something and
get a tetanus shot? Go someplace where
nobody knows you so they won't call your
parents, but they shouldn't anyway since
you are 18. But, you could go to your
regular doctor and maybe they'll see this
as a cry for help and actually help you.
Don't give up. You went 3 days without
cutting. That's great!!! I've read or
seen something that cigarette smokers who
are trying to quit should just go one day
at a time. If you fail today, try again
tomorrow to not cut or to cut less.
It would help you to get some sort of an
anti-depressant (very small dosage), but I
don't know how you feel about them. I've
been on them for a few years for chronic
pain and found them to be most helpful.
One certain type is good for people who do
an action obsessively or hurts us. You
could try that kind. As a teen, though,
you should be monitored so I don't know if
you'd like that.
If you are in a college town or the like,
you could find a free or cheap clinic that
might become your primary doctor. They
do tend to care about people more so than
private practice docs.
Don't give up. Remember one day at a
time. Maybe even one hour at a time.
Whatever helps you. Wear a rubberband
around your wrist and snap it when you get
the urge to cut. Remember, we all have
weaknesses and do something someone else
might consider strange. We are humans,
not robots. We have emotions, thank god.
But work on them. Set goals for
yourself. You can do it. You were
smart enough to look for help on the
internet and their health boards. You
are smart enough to get the help you need
and want.
Take care. You are at a vulnerable age
when we all ask, "who am i" and other
similar questions. Relax, you'll find
yourself. And also remember, humor is
the best medicine.
God bless...
Carol
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britney0581
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 31 Location: n/a
Hi Posted: 11-18-05 16:15pm
Hi, I use to cut myself all of the time
also.....It's not easy to stop once you've
started...So please stop now before it's
even harder.....When I did it I did out as
a "self-atonement" kind of thing....I was
depressed from a miscarriage and I felt so
horrible....But there is more to life than
this.....You are only 18 years old...You
have your whole life ahead of
you.....There will be hard times...But try
to find the best in every situation...And
know that you have friends on this very
chatroom to talk to .....We are here if
you need us....Please don't cut yourself
anymore....It only will make things
worse.....
~brit~
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september65
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 19
Posted: 11-19-05 10:56am
Carol.. I don't think I can ever last 3
days without cutting again, so i'm trying
out what you told me to do, one day at a
time.. It's working so far.. Wish me
luck.. =) I had a family gathering
dinner just now.. All my cousins were
there.. Aunts, uncles, everyone..
Because one of my uncle is a doctor, I
figured that he'd know those wounds were
self-inflicted, so I covered my wounds
with gauze.. It's funny how everyone paid
more attention to me when I covered my
wounds.. Days ago when I had an outing
with my cousins, they didn't even notice
my wounds.. Hmm...... Does that mean I
shouldn't cover my wounds so that I won't
attract more attention..? This can be so
confusing..
Brit.. I'm so sorry to hear about your
miscarriage.. Yes, i'm already trying to
stop cutting, but it's not as easy as I
thought.. Thanks for your support..
I find it weird.. Before I started
cutting, I already heard news that it
would be hard to stop once I have
started.. But still, I thought that I was
different and that I could stop easily..
How wrong I was.. Maybe it's a teenager's
thing.. We think that we know
everything.. We want to challenge things
and try it on ourselves before we actually
believe that it's true.. So my advice to
everyone out there who wants to start
cutting is to not start...!!!! Whoever
you are, whatever your age is.. Just
don't start cutting.. Quitting cutting is
extremely difficult.. Believe me.. So
please, just don't start..
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sabine
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 9 Location: toronto
Posted: 11-19-05 14:42pm
I started cutting as a child, using my
nails to draw blood because it helped me
control my emotions, and when I got older,
I began to use an x-acto knife, which,
like yours, became rusty. Obviously for
health reasons you should clean it, but
then again, cleaning it means admitting to
yourself that you want to cut yourself and
do not want to stop.
I think you have a couple questions to ask
yourself. First, why did you cut in the
first place? What was it that made you
think about doing it?
And secondly, how far can you go? Right
now, you've already talked about being
excited for the night to come so you can
hurt yourself. I'm telling you now that
eventually you won't be able to wait that
long. You will start using anything.
I've used the backs of earrings, nails,
even dull but rough surfaces (the rough
underside of a table, for instance). It's
sad how inventive we become when we want
to hurt ourselves.
Essentially what i'm saying is that it
only gets worse. Don't put off talking to
someone about it because you're afraid or
nervous. If you don't want to go on
medication, tell the doctor. A doctor can
also help you think about the best way to
tell family members, if you decide you
want to. You have a lot more control in
these situations than you think. The most
important thing is to stop before it's
impossible. Eventually, little cuts won't
be enough. You might need stitches.
You'll scar. You'll lose mobility in your
hands and arms. People will always stare.
You'll sweat in the summer hiding under
layers of clothes, covering not just your
arms, but your legs, stomach, feet,
thighs...You will run out of room on your
arms.
Get help. Get rid of whatever you're
using to cut yourself. And stop being
afraid- you really are just one of many,
many people who feel this way.
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depresija
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Makedonija
Some Confort Posted: 12-13-05 06:50am
Hi, sorry for my bad english.
Dude you are normal.
Every body like to hurt them selves
sometimes.
The only diference is that people just use
diferent methods.
I smoke cigaretes until I feel seek.
Drink until I pass.
It`s ok do what you are doing but watch
not to get infected and
most important fokus on your life. We are
here for more than couple of years :)
who knows what tomorow brings.
Take care and don`t give a f**k, you are
all right...
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catswold
Supporter
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Flint, Michigan
How Are You Doing? Posted: 12-13-05 07:34am
September65,
haven't heard from you for a while. How
are you doing? Let us know. We do
care.
Carol
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Kittykatus
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 89 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 12-13-05 09:37am
Jeez, I didn't realise how much I missed
on this.
Sorry I haven't wrote any message.
Reply september65- like catswold said you
haven't wrote anything. I would like to
know your ok too!!
Btw, I have just read all your posts on
this forum and if I wasn't annoyed atm I
would shed a tear for you. You have done
so well mate, you really have. Your
trying so hard, and keeping your mind on
the right path. Fair enough, you can't
just stop striaght away. But you are
trying.
Well done mate, good luck :)
kitty
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september65
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 19
Dropped Cutting.... Posted: 12-20-05 04:54am
Heya...! 8)
i have stopped cutting.. I have lasted
for 3 weeks without cutting now and i´m
very happy that my wounds have healed and
there´s not a single scar at all.. It´s
quite unbelievable that the spot on my arm
where I have cut myself for more than 70
times, is now healed..
Actually, just last week, I wanted to
start cutting again. I even got myself a
new cutter. I stared at the razor for
sometime.. Then I cut some paper with it.
Then I put the razor into a book with my
old razor, closed the book and went to
sleep..
Cutting was a way for me to feel in
control of myself during depression.
Talking was a better way to overcome my
depression. Sometimes, you just have to
open up your mouth and ask for help. You
would be surprised at how many people who
are willing to help and care for us.
I would now like to thank everyone who
have been there for me..
Thank you, carol and kitty, and everyone
else!!