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Q: Night-mares
asked by: wife2jason_mom2ryley on November 4th, 2005
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A lady that my mother works with had many abortions (6 a believe) and once she settled down and got married and tried for a baby, she couldn't get pregnant....Still to this day, 7 years later, she has no child. I believe this is .God's way of punishing her for doing this. My best friend had an aportion 2 years ago and has nightmares everynight about having a child and someone killing it while she lies there helpless....Again, this just may be .God's way of punishing. I was pregnant with my boyfriend's (now husband) baby but thought that it was my ex boyfriends since we had just broke up recently. I was very upset by this and for the first time in my life was all for abortion. I called and had one schelduled and was more then ready to kill this child. My reasons were not good ones but they were because I am white and the father would have been black and my family would dis own myslef and the child, I was in love with my new boyfriend and didn't want to have a baby with someone else. I started to cramp very very badly the night before the aportion and went to the hospital, I found out that I was miscarrying. They did an internal ultra sound and told me that I couldn't have been more then about three weeks along. I was crushed. If I was only that far along then the child had to have been my boyfriends (now husband). I believe that because I was going to have an abortion just becasue of my pathitic reasons, .God took away the child I could have had with my husband. The .Lord did give us a 2nd chance though, we now have a three month old baby boy and I thank .God for that everyday. The point of this post was simply to share my story...Not to start a fight.


God bless and good luck,

teresa
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Tazzy D
replied on November 4th, 2005
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Thank you.... There are alot of people who believe that it doesnt mentally hurt a person at all.. Or that it doesnt effect a person. Here is another story to tell you that abortion does and can hurt wether it is mental or not
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on November 4th, 2005
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You are very welcome.
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Tazzy D
replied on November 4th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
stillmehere wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley wrote:
i believe this is .God's way of punishing her for doing this.


you can keep this god that hurts people for fun.



so why should we keep you here.. You try to hurt people for fun...
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Tazzy D
replied on November 4th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
stillmehere wrote:
tazzy d wrote:
you try to hurt people for fun...


nope. I tell the truth... You don't like that and want to silence me. You aren't about debate, just anti choice lies.


no I think that is what you are about.. Im all about the truth on both views..
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Tylanas
replied on November 5th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
jlee77 wrote:
stillmehere wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley wrote:
i believe this is .God's way of punishing her for doing this.


you can keep this god that hurts people for fun.


.God does not hurt people for fun.
We are taught lessons in life to make us stronger. If we never hurt we would not know what it was like to feel good. Life isn't easy and this is .God's way of teaching a lesson.


please don't shove jesus down my throat but... What if we aren't christian? I can possibly see their being karma relating to the first lady who had 6 freakin abortions; but that was damage done to her body by the multiple procedures. That damage was done to a human by a human, and had nothing to do with god. She was apparently not mentally distraught over the abortions, until she realised that her poor choice of birth control meant she'd never be able to have a baby of her own. I do think she thoughroully deserves her fate.

I'm not going to psychoanalyse you or your friend, but... Your friend sounds like she could use someone to talk to, a councelor of some kind. As for you, it's entirely possible that your stress and anxiety over the daddy of your baby may have induced the misscarriage. Stress can do that, especially in the early weeks of pregnancy. I am very sorry for you in that case, it's a genuinly sad thing to happen to a woman who wants a child. I'm relieved that you now have a child with your husband :)

however, there are many women who have just one abortion for very good reasons, and they move on just fine, they live their lives, and are happy. I don't want to fight either, i'm just sharing my opinions.
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Meandering Away
replied on November 5th, 2005
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stillmehere wrote:
nope. I tell the truth... You don't like that and want to silence me. You aren't about debate, just anti choice lies.



you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the a$$,you spew vile lies at every turn and then panic when you are caught and have to face the consequences,so if you tell the truth prove what you say,prove I go out and bomb clinics,as you accused me of,prove all the other nasty shite you have come out with,no you cannot because you are the liar and everyone knows it.
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michelle1981
replied on November 5th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
wife2jason_mom2ryley wrote:
a lady that my mother works with had many abortions (6 a believe) and once she settled down and got married and tried for a baby, she couldn't get pregnant....Still to this day, 7 years later, she has no child.
Teresa


a bit excessive...6!!! Like someone here said, if she was able to kill six, she doesn't deserve one....She had her chances :o
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Tazzy D
replied on November 5th, 2005
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Well the only thing that I can say is that someone above thought she deserved to have a child... Maybe she didnt know any better, maybe no one ever explained to her what she was doing to her body.. Just a thought
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Tazzy D
replied on November 6th, 2005
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jlee77 wrote:
tazzy d wrote:
well the only thing that I can say is that someone above thought she deserved to have a child... Maybe she didnt know any better, maybe no one ever explained to her what she was doing to her body.. Just a thought


but she has not had a child.


she has had several...
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replied on November 6th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
wife2jason_mom2ryley wrote:
I was pregnant with my boyfriend's (now husband) baby but thought that it was my ex boyfriends since we had just broke up recently. I was very upset by this and for the first time in my life was all for abortion. I called and had one schelduled and was more then ready to kill this child.


ah, another anti-choicer who thinks abortion is okay when *she* has an unwanted pregnancy.

I aborted 17 years ago and have no negative effects - no nightmares, guilt feelings, nada. It was the right decision for me and all concerned.
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replied on November 6th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
tazzy d wrote:
stillmehere wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley wrote:
i believe this is .God's way of punishing her for doing this.


you can keep this god that hurts people for fun.



so why should we keep you here.. You try to hurt people for fun...


he doesn't "hurt us for fun" he punishes us for our wrong doings. Abortion is wrong. It is not the babies fault he/she is unwanted. Even in a rape situation, the baby did nothing wrong and it is still a killing. Millions of people want babies, but can't have them....If you don't want your baby, drop it off at the hospital or something. Don't kill it.
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Re: Stillmehere
skar wrote:
skar wrote:
skar wrote:
i am still waiting for you to show me the so called proof you have that I killed my children.



still waiting liar


ever watched a video of an abortion? From the time of conception the baby is alive and can feel. It can feel it's little body being ripped to pieces and taken out. You know, when they take it out if it's still alive, they smother it until it dies. How can you say that's not killing?
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michelle1981
replied on November 6th, 2005
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I have a question, something off topic but is stillmehere a woman?
Stillmehere comes across as a man to me...... He/she doesn't seem to have a heart..... Not saying men aren't caring, but seem to less emotional and sensitive to issues regarding abortion.
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Sarah1978
replied on November 6th, 2005
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Do those of you who believe abortion is wrong - do you put a pet animal down when it is cruel to let it live. Before you say that there is nothing wrong with killing an animal, in the end it amounts to the same thing. (just think about it before you abuse the living hell out me).

Back to the topic.....
I agree with you all that any women who has 6 abortions does not deserve to have a child. Abortion should not be used as birth control
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Tylanas
replied on November 7th, 2005
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cowboys wrote:
stillmehere wrote:
nope. I tell the truth... You don't like that and want to silence me. You aren't about debate, just anti choice lies.



you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the a$$,you spew vile lies at every turn and then panic when you are caught and have to face the consequences,so if you tell the truth prove what you say,prove I go out and bomb clinics,as you accused me of,prove all the other nasty health questione you have come out with,no you cannot because you are the liar and everyone knows it.


besides when she's insulting people... The actual facts that she posts are true.
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Tylanas
replied on November 7th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
jlee77 wrote:
eiri wrote:
jlee77 wrote:
stillmehere wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley wrote:
i believe this is .God's way of punishing her for doing this.


you can keep this god that hurts people for fun.


.God does not hurt people for fun.
We are taught lessons in life to make us stronger. If we never hurt we would not know what it was like to feel good. Life isn't easy and this is .God's way of teaching a lesson.


please don't shove jesus down my throat but... What if we aren't christian? I can possibly see their being karma relating to the first lady who had 6 freakin abortions; but that was damage done to her body by the multiple procedures. That damage was done to a human by a human, and had nothing to do with god. She was apparently not mentally distraught over the abortions, until she realised that her poor choice of birth control meant she'd never be able to have a baby of her own. I do think she thoughroully deserves her fate.

I'm not going to psychoanalyse you or your friend, but... Your friend sounds like she could use someone to talk to, a councelor of some kind. As for you, it's entirely possible that your stress and anxiety over the daddy of your baby may have induced the misscarriage. Stress can do that, especially in the early weeks of pregnancy. I am very sorry for you in that case, it's a genuinly sad thing to happen to a woman who wants a child. I'm relieved that you now have a child with your husband :)

however, there are many women who have just one abortion for very good reasons, and they move on just fine, they live their lives, and are happy. I don't want to fight either, i'm just sharing my opinions.


you don't have to be christian. I'm not shoving .Jesus down your throat. But like you said....Call it karma or whatever floats your boat, having 6 abortions probably is not going to weigh good on that 7th child. What did she expect. That the baby for sure 100% be born healthy? Yes, it's sad she lost the child, no woman deserves that, but with that being said there are woman that do not deserve children and she was one of them. She doesn't decide what baby to kill or not and think everything is going to be peachy keen. She has killed 6 times. In my eyes, her fate will be more extreme in the future than losing the 7th. Everything in life has to do with .God. I realize you don't believe in .God and we magically appeared here (laugh), but I believe that everything revolves around .God.


*buzzer noise* wrong, evolution and the big bang aren't magical, they're science. Saying some diety came down and made a clay model and then he "magically" made it come to life, now that's perposterous.


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he brought us here and that is all there is to it.
"that damage was done to a human by a human". Are you saying that it's the babies fault that the woman's body is damaged???


and nooo... The doctor who aborted her babies did it to her, and she did it to herself by chosing to have that many abortions.
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replied on November 7th, 2005
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Re: Stillmehere
kellyalexander wrote:
skar wrote:
skar wrote:
skar wrote:
i am still waiting for you to show me the so called proof you have that I killed my children.


still waiting liar


ever watched a video of an abortion? From the time of conception the baby is alive and can feel. It can feel it's little body being ripped to pieces and taken out. You know, when they take it out if it's still alive, they smother it until it dies. How can you say that's not killing?


i've never heard of an abortive process that smothers the baby. Most of them either abort it via medicine, chopping it up in the womb, or partial birth (and by that point it's unethical in my opinion. 20 weeks is my cut off.) none of those involve suffocation.

And I believe it is killing, but the zef's life is less worthy that the mother's. I do feel we have the right as thinking creatures to make that desicion. Hey, you say we're better than the meat we eat? I say we're better than an un-developed zef.
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Meandering Away
replied on November 7th, 2005
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eiri wrote:
buzzer noise* wrong, evolution and the big bang aren't magical, they're science. Saying some diety came down and made a clay model and then he "magically" made it come to life, now that's perposterous.



you can prove this can you,not being funny but you just made an absolutist statement about a subject that has baffled science for years and still there is no definite proof about how we came into existence,religion says god,but that leaves plenty of questions,science says evolution yet cannot link it all together,remember the missing link.So sorry you cannot just say it is preposterous for god to have made man,a theory that has been around a lot longer than science's view on things.
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replied on November 7th, 2005
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Re: Night-mares
kellyalexander wrote:

millions of people want babies, but can't have them....If you don't want your baby, drop it off at the hospital or something. Don't kill it.


tough chit. I'm not a broodmare for the barren, i'm not putting my body thru the trauma of gestation and childbirth just so someone can have a lily white baby. Let them adopt one of the thousands of children needing homes. Or they can adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter and save a born animal from death.
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