My husband has an inability to control
himself when he eats sweets. I often
find food that has been chewed up and then
spit into a ball and wrapped in paper
towels in the trash. Is this unusual
and is it an eating disorder?
Buffs
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Darling
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 875
Posted: 12-07-03 23:04pm
I think you might have to elaborate on
your situation and your husbands eating
habits. I know I did for a long time chew
up food then spit it out but you would
have to go into more detail. Best of luck
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buffs
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Dec 2003 Posts: 2 Location: midwest
Eating Disorder? Posted: 12-08-03 15:40pm
Well, he is an avid exciser and exercises
at least an hour a day. Feels that is
the way he controls his weight. He
often starves himself all day and only
eats one or two bananas and then a large
dinner. He likes to eat sweets at night
and always eats large amounts of cookies.
Buffs
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 12-14-03 06:02am
While this may not be an eating disorder
like the ones we hear about I do think his
behaviour is odd enough to be in the
eating disorder category.
Still I would not want to just jump to
conclusions, everyone is different. Has
he lost alot of weight in a relatively
short time? Has he had a thorough check
up, including blood, urine & stool
tests (& liver, kidney &
eloctrolyte levels)? Blood pressure,
temperature, pulse? Is his temperament
the same as usual or has he become
controlling or uptight etc? Has his
work/family/social life suffered ?
If all the above are ok then perhaps
there's no need to worry, but if a couple
(especially the medical check) are not ok
then you need (or rather he needs) help.
There are usually eating disorder support
groups/associations that you could go to
for some initial help/guidance.
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KittyKat
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Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 39
Posted: 12-18-03 18:18pm
Buffs: yes, this is considered an eating
disorder. It is classified as "non
specific eating disorder". Not too
many people know about or discuss this.
I tried going to several oa meetings, but
I felt completely alone. It is not
normal behavior. I wish I could stop,
but I just can't. I do this every chance
I can. It is my way of eating the things
I shouldn't eat, without getting all the
calories. I don't know what you should
do... When I was confronted about it, I
became very angry. Now I am very careful
about "hiding" my c & s (chewing &
spitting).
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 12-25-03 09:57am
Chewing & spitting as an eating
disorder is new to me (& believe me
this year i've read alot about eating
disorders etc) but what strikes me is that
while it's not the nicest behaviour it's
far from the worst or unhealthiest.
What i'm trying to do is put it in
perspective for both of you, if your (or
your husband's buffs) weight & general
health is good then try accepting this as
an eccentricity that really hurts no-one.
Would you rather pick your nose & eat
that as some people do? (yuk even typing
that makes me feel ill & dirty!!)
would you rather eat eat eat & then
throw up or not eat at all & in either
case waste away to nothing & possibly
die?
Most if not all of us have our
peculiarities/eccentricities, my daughter
(15)manages to get food on the backs of
her knuckles (when eating a proper meal)
& has an annoying habit of using her
finger tips to push food onto her fork -
heaven forbid she use the knife (although
she does for cutting??!!) so look at the
bright side no-one is being hurt.
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KittyKat
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Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 39
Posted: 12-30-03 16:17pm
This is an eating disorder, try looking
under ednos. There really isn't that
much information out there on it, but it
does exist.
"what i'm trying to do is put it in
perspective for both of you, if your (or
your husband's buffs) weight & general
health is good then try accepting this as
an eccentricity that really hurts no-one.
Would you rather pick your nose & eat
that as some people do? (yuk even typing
that makes me feel ill & dirty!!)
would you rather eat eat eat & then
throw up or not eat at all & in either
case waste away to nothing & possibly
die?"
purple333: how dare you say this is an
eccentricity? If he really has chewing
& spitting then it is a eating
disorder. What do you mean it doesn't
hurt anyone? It hurts the person
physically and mentally. You don't get
proper nutrients when you spit everything
out. It's like saying "would you rather
have parkisons or lupus"? What are you
saying, that it's the lesser of two evils?
Do you know what it's like to go through
this? I suspect not, so don't make those
comments unless you have some facts to
back you up. I take great offense to
your comments because you treat this like
it's nothing. I have been bulemic and
now it's this... It isn't any better! I
am going to therapy to help me with my
eating disorder, and not too many people
know how to deal with this. I wish
there was more information out there about
this, but there isn't. Please try and
research something before making those
brazen comments.
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FluteRFly
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 4 Location: Ontario
Posted: 12-30-03 19:16pm
I totally agree. This is an eating
disorder not otherwise specified. There
are many types that fit in this category
from me who is anorexic but have not lost
my period, to a bulimic who only engages
in behaviours occasionally. Check out
this site. What you are looking for is
number 5 under the examples.
First I think that either 2 of you have
gotten off track or that I misunderstood
buffs' first post where she indicated that
he did this only with sweets (as opposed
to food in general) - in which case he's
still getting nutrients from his other
food - also in fact he does get at least
some nutrients from the sweets since I
assume he does swallow saliva during the
chewing process.
One hour of exercise is not over the top.
Many people only have one meal a day &
are fine. Bananas are very healthy &
nutritious. If he truly eats a "large"
dinner then prefers to chew & spit
sweets & is otherwise healthy, please
note I keep repeating if he is otherwise
healthy & nothing in his life(work,
relationships etc) is suffering, then I
think it is all too easy for others to
judge inappropraitely.
For those who don't read entire posts I
did say upfront :-
"while this may not be an eating disorder
like the ones we hear about I do think his
behaviour is odd enough to be in the
eating disorder category"
i also said in that same post 12/14 that
he should have a complete medical check up
to ensure that his health is a.Ok. &
again in that post at the end - I guess
too far for some to read, in which case
you're probably not rewading this or is it
a lack of comprehension - that if there
were any health issues that he should seek
help & mentioned the existence of
support groups - which even if he refused
buffs could join.
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KittyKat
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 39
Posted: 12-31-03 10:38am
Purple333: first of all, I did read all
of the posts. Second, I did not
misunderstand buffs post. How does she
really know if he eats all of his dinner?
When you do this thing, you learn how to
hide things, just like a bulimic. How
can you say that it isn't a problem
because he is only doing it with sweets?
I do it, but I don't choose sweets.
Chewing and spitting any type of food is
not normal behavior! I might be
physically healthy now, but what about 1
year down the road? I also believe you
are overlooking the mental aspect of this.
How can you say that physical health is
more important then mental health? My
whole life suffers from this! I can't
think of anything else but food, and how
to get it and how to get rid of it.
Going to a medical doctor is not the only
answer; so many m.D.'s just don't know how
to handle eating disorders. I spent many
years of my life being bulimic, so I do
understand what eating disorders are
about. Can't you see that I obviously am
moving from one to the other? I wish I
could get a handle on things, but without
the information on this (unlike, anorexia
& bulemia), people just don't know how
to deal with it. I am not judging you, I
just don't think you were being fair with
your statements. Please have courtesy to
others, even though you might not think
it's a "big problem".
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 01-05-04 13:56pm
Kittykat,
for heaven sake learn to comprehend what
you read I said that maybe i, not you , I
had misunderstood buffs post!! Do you
think you can understand that now??
Also just where do you come up with some
of your ideas as to what I have said??
Where & when & how did I say or
imply that physical health was more
important than mental health?? I simply
(perhaps too simply for you) suggested
that he have a complete medical to make
sure all was ok physically before going
any further. Secondly I also suggested
support groups for both buffs & her
husband (this comes under the heading of
mental health for those of you who don't
understand that it's often easier to get
someone to a support group than to a
psychiatrist!!!! By the way, the latter -
that means the last thing I mentioned - is
normally what people think of re mental
health!!).
You may not choose to believe that I have
researched & experienced this but I
have & my views have as much right to
be heard & stated as anyone else's
even if you don't like them. You not
likeing what I say doesn't make me wrong,
it just either means that we have
different views or that you choose to have
a closed mind. Either way, I choose that
it be your problem, not mine if you choose
not to consider that others might have
valid points of view even if they differ
from yours.
Have a great 2004.
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KariM18
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Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 1436 Location: Grand Blanc, Michigan
Posted: 01-17-04 03:02am
I do believe this is definitly an eating
disorder.. Its obvious he is very
concerned w/ his body.. And chewing and
spitting is an eating disorder.. Also if
he starves him self all day and then eats
dinner . .Well that sounds like how I
used to be sometimes. . I would starve
all day. .Then give into dinner .. Lose
control and binge (like he does on the
sweets) then I would purge. But w/ him.
. He just doesnt swallow.. R u sure he
doesnt purge?