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Q: Apple Cider Vinegar - Good Or Bad For Gout ???
asked by: mrfirkin on October 16th, 2005
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I read somewhere that apple cider vinegar is great for gout and arthritis.

Then I talked to a old bloke who has been both a gout sufferer and a sports & physio expert and he almost fainted when I mentioned apple cider vinegar as a gout reliever.

He said that it's very acidic and is very very bad for gout.

What gives ? Any ideas ?

Cheers,
paul
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Fuzz
replied on October 22nd, 2005
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Apple Cider Vinegar - Good Or Bad For Gout ???
Good, the old bloke should have known better. Yes it is acid but turns alkaline. Actually makes the blood ph 7.4.

Acv with the mother in it works wonders on many ailments. Make sure it has the mother in it. Best to buy from a health food store.

Search apple cider vinegar health and read anything that says bragg.

I found this out by accident when I drank straight apple cider one season to lower my cholesterol (it did) and I found that all my aches and pains disappeared but returned when the cider season was over.

While at a health food store I opened a book on acv and it changed my life. I believe it said if you suffer from gout you will have to take it every day. Acv, honey and water is now my favorite drink.

Cheers,
fuzz
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bsr2002
replied on February 8th, 2006
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Re: Apple Cider Vinegar - Good Or Bad For Gout ???
fuzz wrote:
good, the old bloke should have known better. Yes it is acid but turns alkaline. Actually makes the blood ph 7.4.


Acv with the mother in it works wonders on many ailments. Make sure it has the mother in it. Best to buy from a health food store.


Search apple cider vinegar health and read anything that says bragg.


I found this out by accident when I drank straight apple cider one season to lower my cholesterol (it did) and I found that all my aches and pains disappeared but returned when the cider season was over.


While at a health food store I opened a book on acv and it changed my life. I believe it said if you suffer from gout you will have to take it every day. Acv, honey and water is now my favorite drink.


Cheers,
fuzz

how much avc do you drink per day? I drink a 16 oz bottled water with 3 tbsp of avc. Do I need to drink more avc per day?

Thanks in advanced :)
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Fuzz
replied on February 23rd, 2006
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Bsr2002,

the bragg bottle says three times a day, upon arising, mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

1-2 tsp. In 8oz. Glass purified water and optional 1-2 tsp. Honey, maple syrup, blackstrap molasses or 4 drops stevia.

I think I drink about a quart a month. I premix the honey and vinegar then pour some into 4-6 oz. Distilled water when thirsty.

Fuzz
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tiggywiggy
replied on March 15th, 2006
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Apple Cider Vinegar
Would I be able to start this regime of apple cider and honey while having a gout attack and taking colchicine?
Also, what is with the "mother" in it.
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mike mcdonough
replied on May 13th, 2006
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World Association of Gout Sufferers
Hi all, just joined the site because I am also looking for the answer to my gout problem. Up till now it would have been easier to find the holy grail.
There are lots of people advertising "miracle remedies" but also want your hard earned cash, they all say the answer is on your weekly shopping list.... Well I think this forum might have the answer to my problem, so thanks to all contributors of articles on cider vinegar and baking soda....Keep them coming in

ps. Strange is'nt it that such a painful condition can unite people from the 4 corners of the world..Maybe it's a sign
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yonx
replied on July 21st, 2006
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Apple Cider Vinegar...good Or Bad For Gout
I really must tell you that some people cannot take apple cider vinegar. Me for instance. A few years ago I decided to try out this magical brew as several friends recommended it for general health. I purchased the real mccoy, in this case braggs with all the necessaries in the bottle. I started on a low dose and gradually increased to the recommended dose over a 2 week period. By the end of the 2nd week I noticed that I had a very painful finger. It was swollen to extreme and I couldn't use it and dare not knock it. I did not give the vinegar a thought until someone said it sounded like gout. I stopped the vinegar immediately and within a couple of days it had disappeared. I retested this after enjoying 3 weeks of normality and sure enough it returned until I stopped the vinegar again. Myself and my siblings, parents and extended family members had never ever suffered from gout or other arthritic forms, so this was a real surprise to me. But it gave me a taste of what others go through so I appreciate that. Thank you for listening. I am sure that I am in the minority.
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JYY2
replied on August 1st, 2006
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"there is no scientific evidence that apple cider vinegar has any medical properties." said beth fontenot, ms, ldn, rd, of mcneese state university and lamar university in tx. Her comprehensive report on acv can be found at: http://www.Findarticles.Com/p/articles/mi_ m0gcu/is_n6_v14/ai_20152545 . (if this url does not work, do google searach for the report using key words: "the sour truth about apple cider vinegar" and "beth fontenot")

in addition, acv is known to:

* ruin the enamel on the teeth.

* cause corrosive esophageal injury.

( http://www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/entrez/query.F cgi?Cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_ui ds=12376715&dopt=abstract --or, google search using key words: "corrosive oesophageal injury following vinegar ingestion" and "chung ch", and
http://www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/entrez/query.F cgi?Cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_ui ds=15983536&dopt=abstract , or google search using key words: "esophageal injury by apple cider vinegar tablets" and " hill ll" .)

* cause serious health problems -- hypokalemia, hypereninemia and osteoporosis.
(http://content.Karger.Com/produktedb/prod ukte.Asp?Aktion=showabstract&artikelnr =45180&produktnr=223854&ausgabe=22 4764 , or google search using key words: abstract "hypokalemia, hyperreninemia and osteoporosis" and "karl lhotta" .)
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yonx
replied on August 2nd, 2006
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A friend has had quite quick relief from his gout by taking pantothenic acid (vit b5), an herbal formula which deals with the liver, kidneys, gallbladder and pancreas and a calcium supplement. I was amazed at how quickly he could stop using crutches.

Everyone is different where the causes of gout and the relief is concerned.
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Sloth97
replied on December 10th, 2007
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Treating Gout
I just turned 40 and have had gout attacks for over 10 years now. I've taken allopurinol and colchicine but I'm terrible about taking medications on a regular basis. The colchicine gets rid of the gout on acute attacks so I always have a prescription filled just in case I feel it coming on. I haven't had an acute attack in over a year and a half. The key for me is to head off the gout at the first signs of it.
Anyway, I also have had a good track record with Sonne #7. This is a kidney detox that helps get rid of excess acid. It's not made for gout but after I read the label, I figured it sounded like what I needed and it couldn't hurt since it eliminates any impurities you may have. I don't think my kidneys get rid of it normally. The active ingredient is bentonite clay which the acid attaches to and you excrete it. You need to take vitamins because the clay is super binding and it binds with even the good things. I buy it at the Vitamin Shoppe near my house but you can buy it at Whole Foods market and many other places including online.
Gout is brutal and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Hopefully, something I've said will benefit someone.

Sloth
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grtful
replied on September 14th, 2008
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Apple Cider Vinegar really works...
My mother is 88 years old and has had gout attacks in the past. Her doctor has prescribed allopurinol and colchicine and the attacks have lasted for weeks. She had knee replacement surgery a few months ago and the least thing she needs right now is another gout attack.

Well, three days ago she began having signs of gout again, pain, redness and swelling, on her instep. I emailed her doctor and his advise was to ice it, take iboprofen and elevate it.
I quickly started an internet search for home remedies and found this site where so many people mention about the benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar. She immediately began to take it 3x a day, the pain was unbearable and she couldn't walk. The second day she could barely walk but she continued taking it. By the 3rd day, the pain is almost gone. She was also drinking cherry juice throughout the day.

Thank you everyone cooperating with this post. I hope this helps someone else. God bless!
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Fuzz
replied on September 23rd, 2008
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Apple Cider Vinegar - Good Or Bad For Gout ???
Hello Everyone,
I was suprised to find myself when searching "apple cider vinegar health". I gave up on the vinegar for awhile when I gave up my sea kelp. Months went by and I found myself lying in a hot tub of water to releive my back pain. Haven't done that for three years.

I realized then that I haven't taken any ACV and started again. Look, all I can say is that it works for me. It took about a week to settle down but I feel like i'm pulling a muscle when I stretch lying on my back. I had this feeling the first time I went with the ACV and believe it's just the crystals dissolving in my muscles and me moving them around.

I'll be honest with you, I hate the taste and it takes my breath away but to alleviate the pain makes it all worth while; it is a good food.

I upped my consumption of sea kelp when I realized that I didn't have a sore, swollen gland in my neck every three months and thought this is good. I was eliminating some sort of crystals from my eye and scratching the lens. The kelp bag said 1/4tsp. per serving and I was using a tsp. a day. I don't use salt and get my iodine from the kelp.

Way to go grtful, I'm glad your mother is feeling better.

Fuzz
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pain_free
replied on January 20th, 2009
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I'm amazed
I've had my first gout flare up 10 ago. Started Allopurinol 1 year ago and stopped taking it 6 months ago because I did not like how I felt on it. No problems, just avoided shellfish and did fine. Well, New Year's eve, I hit my trigger, beer and shrimp. Whoops. Can't start the alloprinal during an attack because that will make it worse. So I've been suffering for 20 days now. It has abated somewhat, but still hurt and I am limping around.
I was never one to try the "folkk cures" but I hit my breaking point and got some cider today. I took 2 tablespoon about 2 hours ago and am not feeling any pain at all right now. I'm hooked and kind of pissed my doctor's never mentioned this as a possible cure. I mean, ACV has been around forever and is used in all kinds of food so I don't mind using it as much as I mind taking pills every day. If you are hesitant, I say go for it. ACV is amazing.
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Fuzz
replied on January 21st, 2009
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I'm amazed
ACV is not a folk cure but a food. An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
Here is an excerpt from the Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar book.

Why Has Natural Apple Cider Vinegar Disappeared From Grocers' Shelves?

The blame for the disappearance of natural raw apple cider vinegar from supermarkets lies on the shoulders of the general public, as well as the producers of vinegar.
Most people buy food with their eyes, not thinking of good nutrition. Vinegar producers failed to enlighten the public on what powerful health qualities are locked within natural ACV. Why? Because they didn't have the slightest knowledge of the health values of natural, raw, organic, unfiltered, cloudy (to some, less attractive-looking) ACV with the "mother". They produced pasteurized, refined, distilled vinegars because the public demanded it. It was simply filling current supply and demand that tragically removed the priceless miraculous health benefits.

Talk to older people and you will find out how much they know about ACV. I get the best information from people in their 70's and younger people who have talked to older people and heard the claims of unfiltered ACV.

I paid $6.95 for my last Bragg ACV book. It is well worth the read and the price.

ACV like citrus fruits are acid but turn alkaline in the system.

Make taking the ACV simple by mixing honey and ACV together. I use a quart jug and mix about 1/3 honey to 2/3 ACV; shake it until it mixes well. I set it by the kitchen sink and shake it for a couple of minutes every time I see it until it mixes well. I then pour it into a 1/2 pint jar that I shake and pour an ounce or two into a glass and add enough water to make it palatable.

BUY THE BOOK then buy the ACV.
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apcoach
replied on January 21st, 2009
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Do you take ACV every day for prevention of gout attacks similar to others on this forum taking baking soda? i love baking soda's effects but i have had two migraines in the past three days, don't know if it is baking soda or effects of the steroid i got from the doc for my gouty ankle. all i know is that my gout symptoms are gone from the only 5 days of baking soda (1/2 teaspoon each morning and night.) i would be willing to give scv a try if it as the same impact as bs.
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apcoach
replied on January 28th, 2009
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i think the migraines were due to the steroid because they went away as the steroid use ended. my first inclination is to take baking soda to prevent a gout attack or lesson it when i feel a twinge, but i am worried about my blood pressure going up. so i have been alternating acv and bs. i'll take a 1/2 teaspoon of bs in the am and after lunch, then take 2 tablespoons of acv before bed. if i feel twinges, which i think are currently due to the crystals in my feet dissolving, i will add another dose of acv after dinner to make four for the day, two bs, two acv. right now the twinges have remained just that. alll the while i am exercising, watchning my diet 6 days a week and trying to loose weight.

i just found out that my 70 yr old father probably has gout after listening to his symptoms. he has kept the discomfort to himself. he tried acv awhile ago and stopped because of pain in his joints. i told him that it may be temporary discomfort due to the drop in uric acid or the dissolving of msu crystals. i hope to get him to try it again. do you think that is a good idea for him?
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lovinglypoe
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Gout remedy
I accedently gave myself gout after self medicating with extreme amounts of B vitamins. My family has a history of gout so it was bound to happen to me sooner or later. I have had excruciating attacks in my toe, ankle, and various places on top and bottom of my feet. I have found some very good treatments over the last year or two for gout. The first one I found was a far-infrared sauna which will work wonders but is very expensive ($2000 ) but will treat multiple conditions. The second one i found was the ionic foot bath. My grandpa and I have had amazing results with it. After one treatment I could eat or drink anything I wanted with no side effects for about a month but then I would need another treatment. Each treatment usually costs around $30-35 or you can buy one for about $300. The third one and by far the most economical fresh cod liver oil taken everyday about $50 or less to cover you for a month or more. I would recommend 1-2 tablespoons of fresh cod liver oil a day and one ionic foot bath treatment a month to never worrie about gout again. You might be able to find a alternitive health clinic near you that will give you a free first ionic treatment. Try these out and let us know if they help you.
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apcoach
replied on March 4th, 2009
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did you have the ionic foot bath while suffereing from inflamation and pain associated with a gout attack? does it rid your body of the stored msu crystals in your joints, excess uric acid, or the inflammation surrounding the joints?
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kartick
replied on July 5th, 2009
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ACV Works!
I had an attack of gout for about 3 weeks. Doctor prescribed steroid to reduce swelling. This gave some comfort. I read about ACV on the internet. Took one tablespoon ACV mixed with one tablespoon honey and one tablespoon warm water (honey mixes easily with warm water). Took it twice daily after lunch and dinner. Pain reduced in one day! Pain gone in 3 days swelling still there but a lot less.
This is more effective than the prescription!
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KenBee
replied on July 7th, 2009
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I have found the best remedy for Gout is to take Celery Seed Extract. This remedy for Gout dates back to Egyptian times. It simply helps to eliminate Uric acid from the body.
These are usually found in pill form in health food stores.

Also eat Cherries and/or drink Cherry juice to reduce inflamation. But during a gout attack you need strong anti-inflamitoriy pils and/or Ibuprofen.

Try not to let your body become Acidic, too much sugar, rich food, alcohol etc.
Bicarbonate of Soda is great for Alkalizing your body.
As is Cider Vinegar, and watermelon.

Contradictory to popular belief too much Omega 3 oils, fish or otherwise, can cause my gout to flare up.
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