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mrfirkin

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Apple Cider Vinegar - Good Or Bad For Gout ???
Posted: 10-16-05 07:13am

I read somewhere that apple cider vinegar is great for gout and arthritis.

Then I talked to a old bloke who has been both a gout sufferer and a sports & physio expert and he almost fainted when I mentioned apple cider vinegar as a gout reliever.

He said that it's very acidic and is very very bad for gout.

What gives ? Any ideas ?

Cheers,
paul
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Fuzz

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Apple Cider Vinegar - Good Or Bad For Gout ???
Posted: 10-22-05 22:48pm

Good, the old bloke should have known better. Yes it is acid but turns alkaline. Actually makes the blood ph 7.4.

Acv with the mother in it works wonders on many ailments. Make sure it has the mother in it. Best to buy from a health food store.

Search apple cider vinegar+health and read anything that says bragg.

I found this out by accident when I drank straight apple cider one season to lower my cholesterol (it did) and I found that all my aches and pains disappeared but returned when the cider season was over.

While at a health food store I opened a book on acv and it changed my life. I believe it said if you suffer from gout you will have to take it every day. Acv, honey and water is now my favorite drink.

Cheers,
fuzz
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bsr2002

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Re: Apple Cider Vinegar - Good Or Bad For Gout ???
Posted: 02-08-06 00:10am

fuzz wrote:
good, the old bloke should have known better. Yes it is acid but turns alkaline. Actually makes the blood ph 7.4.


Acv with the mother in it works wonders on many ailments. Make sure it has the mother in it. Best to buy from a health food store.


Search apple cider vinegar+health and read anything that says bragg.


I found this out by accident when I drank straight apple cider one season to lower my cholesterol (it did) and I found that all my aches and pains disappeared but returned when the cider season was over.


While at a health food store I opened a book on acv and it changed my life. I believe it said if you suffer from gout you will have to take it every day. Acv, honey and water is now my favorite drink.


Cheers,
fuzz

how much avc do you drink per day? I drink a 16 oz bottled water with 3 tbsp of avc. Do I need to drink more avc per day?

Thanks in advanced :)
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Fuzz

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Posted: 02-23-06 20:46pm

Bsr2002,

the bragg bottle says three times a day, upon arising, mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

1-2 tsp. In 8oz. Glass purified water and optional 1-2 tsp. Honey, maple syrup, blackstrap molasses or 4 drops stevia.

I think I drink about a quart a month. I premix the honey and vinegar then pour some into 4-6 oz. Distilled water when thirsty.

Fuzz
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tiggywiggy

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Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted: 03-15-06 09:51am

Would I be able to start this regime of apple cider and honey while having a gout attack and taking colchicine?
Also, what is with the "mother" in it.
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mike mcdonough

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World Association of Gout Sufferers
Posted: 05-13-06 14:40pm

Hi all, just joined the site because I am also looking for the answer to my gout problem. Up till now it would have been easier to find the holy grail.
There are lots of people advertising "miracle remedies" but also want your hard earned cash, they all say the answer is on your weekly shopping list.... Well I think this forum might have the answer to my problem, so thanks to all contributors of articles on cider vinegar and baking soda....Keep them coming in

ps. Strange is'nt it that such a painful condition can unite people from the 4 corners of the world..Maybe it's a sign
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yonx

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Apple Cider Vinegar...good Or Bad For Gout
Posted: 07-21-06 00:51am

I really must tell you that some people cannot take apple cider vinegar. Me for instance. A few years ago I decided to try out this magical brew as several friends recommended it for general health. I purchased the real mccoy, in this case braggs with all the necessaries in the bottle. I started on a low dose and gradually increased to the recommended dose over a 2 week period. By the end of the 2nd week I noticed that I had a very painful finger. It was swollen to extreme and I couldn't use it and dare not knock it. I did not give the vinegar a thought until someone said it sounded like gout. I stopped the vinegar immediately and within a couple of days it had disappeared. I retested this after enjoying 3 weeks of normality and sure enough it returned until I stopped the vinegar again. Myself and my siblings, parents and extended family members had never ever suffered from gout or other arthritic forms, so this was a real surprise to me. But it gave me a taste of what others go through so I appreciate that. Thank you for listening. I am sure that I am in the minority.
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JYY2

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Posted: 08-01-06 22:41pm

"there is no scientific evidence that apple cider vinegar has any medical properties." said beth fontenot, ms, ldn, rd, of mcneese state university and lamar university in tx. Her comprehensive report on acv can be found at: http://www.Findarticles.Com/p/articl es/mi_m0gcu/is_n6_v14/ai_20152545 . (if this url does not work, do google searach for the report using key words: "the sour truth about apple cider vinegar" and "beth fontenot")

in addition, acv is known to:

* ruin the enamel on the teeth.

* cause corrosive esophageal injury.

( http://www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/entrez /query.Fcgi?Cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed& ;list_uids=12376715&dopt=abstract --or, google search using key words: "corrosive oesophageal injury following vinegar ingestion" and "chung ch", and
http://www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/entrez /query.Fcgi?Cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed& ;list_uids=15983536&dopt=abstract , or google search using key words: "esophageal injury by apple cider vinegar tablets" and " hill ll" .)

* cause serious health problems -- hypokalemia, hypereninemia and osteoporosis.
(http://content.Karger.Com/produktedb/prod ukte.Asp?Aktion=showabstract&artikelnr =45180&produktnr=223854&ausgabe=22 4764 , or google search using key words: abstract "hypokalemia, hyperreninemia and osteoporosis" and "karl lhotta" .)
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yonx

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Gout
Posted: 08-02-06 08:22am

A friend has had quite quick relief from his gout by taking pantothenic acid (vit b5), an herbal formula which deals with the liver, kidneys, gallbladder and pancreas and a calcium supplement. I was amazed at how quickly he could stop using crutches.

Everyone is different where the causes of gout and the relief is concerned.
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Sloth97

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Treating Gout
Posted: 12-10-07 23:54pm

I just turned 40 and have had gout attacks for over 10 years now. I've taken allopurinol and colchicine but I'm terrible about taking medications on a regular basis. The colchicine gets rid of the gout on acute attacks so I always have a prescription filled just in case I feel it coming on. I haven't had an acute attack in over a year and a half. The key for me is to head off the gout at the first signs of it.
Anyway, I also have had a good track record with Sonne #7. This is a kidney detox that helps get rid of excess acid. It's not made for gout but after I read the label, I figured it sounded like what I needed and it couldn't hurt since it eliminates any impurities you may have. I don't think my kidneys get rid of it normally. The active ingredient is bentonite clay which the acid attaches to and you excrete it. You need to take vitamins because the clay is super binding and it binds with even the good things. I buy it at the Vitamin Shoppe near my house but you can buy it at Whole Foods market and many other places including online.
Gout is brutal and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Hopefully, something I've said will benefit someone.

Sloth
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