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Q: Can We Please
asked by: Tazzy D on October 15th, 2005
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Okay can we please have a civil conversation/debate regarding abortion.. And peoples input on how they feel. Also can we please introduce ourselves so the new people/faces know who they are talking to and what there beliefs are???
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BrianBaby
replied on October 16th, 2005
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Hello!! I'm jenna and pro-life!
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Izzy
replied on October 16th, 2005
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Hello I am izzy and I choose life.
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shoneen
replied on October 16th, 2005
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I'm shoneen pro-choice
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Izzy
replied on October 16th, 2005
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So shoneen what do you choose
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Izzy
replied on October 16th, 2005
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So she is choosing for other people, choosing for women,

look she said she is pro choice, so she believes she has a choice, so do I i choose life, what did she choose?
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Tylanas
replied on October 16th, 2005
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I'm eiri, and i'm pro-choice, because I believe a woman should have a choice as to what she wants to do withher body. If she wants to give birth, yay for her! If she wants to abort, yay for her! If she wants to adopt, yay for her! It's her choice, her body.

You have the right to chose not to abort, and to make that your own policy for your own life. You do not have the right to impose that desicion upon others.
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shoneen
replied on October 16th, 2005
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While I thank you for answering for me, I believe I can answer for myself. I am pro-choice. I believe it is a womans right to choose if she wants to have an abortion or not. I choose choice, that is what I choose. I choose freedom of one's morals, feelings, rights, needs, and wants.
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paganangel
replied on October 17th, 2005
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I'm pro-life. I'm mixed about how I feel towards abortion for rape/incest or medical reasons...But I lean more towards 100% pro-life no exceptions..
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Izzy
replied on October 17th, 2005
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"i am pro-choice. I believe it is a womans right to choose if she wants to have an abortion or not. I choose choice, that is what I choose."

thats like saying you can either cook your tea or eat it cold what do you choose, I choose to have the choice, that means your never going to eat, to have a choice means you have a choice to make

legally you have a choice what do .Y.O.U choose, I personally have chosen life - you want a choice, you have a choice - so what do you choose?
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shoneen
replied on October 17th, 2005
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I am not pregnant nor would I have an un-wanted pregnancy so currently I don't have to choose. However, if I got pregnant and it was unwanted I would have an abortion.
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Izzy
replied on October 17th, 2005
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So you choose abortion, so your pro abortion regarding the legal choice given to you.

I choose life for children under most circumstances, you choose death for children under most circumstances

i am pro life, you are pro abortion.

We are both pro choice, and have exersized that choice, you chose abortion, making you pro abortion, I choose life makig me pro life.
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Tylanas
replied on October 17th, 2005
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Alright, if you want us to use the phrase "pro-abortion" then I want you all to use "anti-choice" since you are not giving the woman a choice. She can not make up her own mind in your world, as to whether she views abortion as right or wrong. For her, it's illegal, no matter what she believes, no matter what may be best for her life.

Thank you, for feeling like you have the right to determine what my body is used for.[/sarcasm]
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shoneen
replied on October 17th, 2005
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You are twisting my words. I do not choose death for any child. I said if I had an un-wanted pregnancy I would choose abortion. I have a child, I had her at the age of 20, she was wanted, so me having to decide to have an abortion was not something I had to think about.
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Izzy
replied on October 17th, 2005
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"i want you all to use "anti-choice" since you are not giving the woman a choice."

but I choose just as shoneen, I dont want to remove the womans choice I want her to choose to let the child live, I want her to choose life, I am pro life not anti choice, I myself choose to be pro life just as you choose to be pro abortion.


"she can not make up her own mind in your world"

legal or not we always have a choice, I just happen to think making the wrong choice should be punishable by law.

In fact you are being anti choice by being pro abortion because your not giving the child a choice. Where I am giving choice to both parties.

"as to whether she views abortion as right or wrong. For her, it's illegal, no matter what she believes, no matter what may be best for her life."

so its illegal that dosnt take away her choice, I can choose to do drugs or not, its illegal but I still have a choice, I just have to pay the consiquences if I take them and get caught, what about the person who thinks killing black people is right for their life are we to legalise lynching?


"thank you, for feeling like you have the right to determine what my body is used for"

why shouldnt I have the right if you have the right to determine who is worthy to live and who is not, your being hypocritical!!!

"i said if I had an un-wanted pregnancy I would choose abortion"

no pregnancy - no child

pregnant - then there is a child

does abortion end the life of a child or a pregnancy?

Answer - both!

You choose death for a child by default of choosing to end a pregnancy prematurely
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Meandering Away
replied on October 17th, 2005
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If we are going down that road {anti choice and pro abortion] then it really should be pro birth and pro abortion.As was stated before we are all pro choice because we all have that choice it is how we decide to use that choice that defines how other people look at us or assume they know us.
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Izzy
replied on October 17th, 2005
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Well we have take the pro choice anti choice to its logical conclusion.

We are not anti choice we are pro life.

They are not pro choice they are pro abortion but as you say quiet correctly

if its pro abortion then it must be pro birth except we have the guts to take it to its logical conclusion

allowing the child to be born means allowing it to live = pro life

aborting the child means killing it = pro death.

Of course some dont have the guts to aknowledge that and wont even accept "pro abortion" but hide behind "pro choice"

in other words

we have choosen life - now we are calling you out to make your choice - pro life or pro death!
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BrianBaby
replied on October 17th, 2005
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eiri wrote:
alright, if you want us to use the phrase "pro-abortion" then I want you all to use "anti-choice" since you are not giving the woman a choice. She can not make up her own mind in your world, as to whether she views abortion as right or wrong. For her, it's illegal, no matter what she believes, no matter what may be best for her life.


Thank you, for feeling like you have the right to determine what my body is used for.[/sarcasm]


i think the real issue here is how address the topic. When I talk about abortions, I could care less about the woman herself. I give voice to the life inside of her-"pro-life".

I wouldn't consider myself "anti-choice" because i'm not trying to force the woman to not abort. It's hard to explain. If she chooses to abort....Fine. That's something that she has to live with...I can't make the choice for her. Understand?

Now if you would be so kind....Please explain your reasoning for not wanting to be called "pro-abortion"....
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shoneen
replied on October 17th, 2005
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It's not pro-death, and it shouldn't be claimed at pro-life, I agree in saying it should be considered anti-choice. I am not the one that said "hey everyone that thinks abortion is bad, killing, murderous, and should be illegal call yourselves pro-life". I don't choose death, I simply feel it is best to allow women to have their choice. Not all instances do I agree with a woman having an abortion, so that doesn't make me "pro-death" and not all instances do I agree with a woman keeping a pregnancy so that doesn't make me "pro-life" or "anti-choice" it simply means that I agree that women should have the choice to choose what is best for them as well as the zef.
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Izzy
replied on October 17th, 2005
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"it's not pro-death"

what else is it then to promote the ending of a human beings life by abortion, you have your legal choice granted by the government yet you continue to promote it as a moral option, your not promoting choice your promoting abortion - death!

You won the right to give society the choice to have abortion or not, thats gone history - now you have to make your choice - to promote abortion as a moral option or not... Like I said I choose to promote life as the moral choice - and you eailier in the thread choose to promote death as a moral choice.
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