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Which choice is more damaging to your general health? Smoking, which would be just smoking a pack a day or over drinking alcohol abuse? Over drinking meaning that you get drunk everyday. What do you think is worse in the long run and tell us about it.
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replied October 12th, 2005
Alchol is worse in the long run more people die of drinkin den smokin in a year in uk
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replied October 16th, 2005
They are both very bad for you.
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replied October 21st, 2005
Take Yr Pick..
Both are of course bad...But its the time line that matters.

People smoke for 20-30 yrs before they develop cancer or other serious illnesses related to smoking. Of course, a smoker will never be as fit as a non-smoker(if they are eating right, exercising regularly, etc). There are other smokers who probably die of unrelated diseases, which is why no doctor will ever tell you that smoking withh cause cancer 100%.

On the other hand, over-consumption of alcohol will show effects pretty soon. The liver is a delicate organ and it will develop jaundice or some other liver disease soon enough.

On the flip side, I feel that recovering from alcohol abuse is easier than quitting smoking.

So take your pick!
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replied June 15th, 2008
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correct me if i'm wrong but I do believe when you smoke, if you do indeed decide to quit your lungs can repair themselves over YEARS of time..i'm not saying you can smoke 20 years and quit 1 and expect your lungs to be the way they were 20 years ago..but i think very slowly the lungs can repair themselves if i remember correctly..however if you are an alcoholic you can get cirrhosis of the liver and if your liver can no longer function you will die..and the liver cannot repair itself...however...neither is good for you and youre asking for health problems
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replied April 6th, 2012
YOU'RE WRONG:

The liver can be protected/repaired with increased water consumption and herbal supplementation
(Goldenseal, Milk Thistle, and Dandelion Root to name a few). Try flushing out your lungs with water and see what happens.

The liver is capable of manufacturing new cells. The lungs are not. Damage done to lung tissue CANNOT be repaired.

Alcohol consumption in moderation is healthy. Smoking tobacco is not. Besides, when was the last time you heard of someone smoking a "moderate" ammount of tobacco?
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replied June 16th, 2008
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Alcoholism generally has more of an impact on mental health- family problems, abuse, etc.
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replied June 16th, 2008
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worrywart01 wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong but I do believe when you smoke, if you do indeed decide to quit your lungs can repair themselves over YEARS of time..i'm not saying you can smoke 20 years and quit 1 and expect your lungs to be the way they were 20 years ago..but i think very slowly the lungs can repair themselves if i remember correctly..however if you are an alcoholic you can get cirrhosis of the liver and if your liver can no longer function you will die..and the liver cannot repair itself...however...neither is good for you and youre asking for health problems


I dont know about the cirrhosis but I do know your lungs are capable of healing themselve within a year they can be pretty much back to your pre-smoking years and well 5 years later you can have more stamina.

Smoking is the lesser evil but it does affect long term, the results of alcohol are usually pretty quick acting and not only affect you mentally but also physically.

Coming from a smoker, Id rather smoke than drink.
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replied June 16th, 2008
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they are both bad but i'd rather other people smoke than drink so i don't have to worry about them killing me or my family with their car. alcohol abuse also leads or contributes to other abuses like sexual abuse, domestic violence, suicide, murder, assault, vandalism, homelessness, etc. I kinda wish alcohol had never been invented. Smoking, on the other hand, is bad for your health, but you can still drive a car and know right from wrong when you smoke a cigarette. I think the world could do without both but I'd have to say alcohol abuse is worse.
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replied June 20th, 2008
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I’m a smoker and I don’t think I‘ll live long enough for my lungs to repair themselves. Very Happy But the damage that’s been done to my self esteem by drinkers (my ex-husband was an alcoholic) will probably never be repaired either. I don’t smoke near my child and I refuse to smoke in a non-smokers house, even if for instance the husband smokes and the wife does not. It’s my filthy habit - not theirs.
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replied June 20th, 2008
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i also agree with whoever brought up the point about alcohol effecting others, smoking harms only yourself, alcohol changes some people and can cause physical/emotional harm to others around that person
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replied June 26th, 2008
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If I go on a chain smoking spree and drive somewhere afterwards, my ability to operate the vehicle isn't compromised. If I do the same after going on a drinking binge I put everyone on and around the road in danger. I think it's a no-brainer.

The witch hunt against smokers these days has people convinced that someone lighting up across the street from them is more dangerous than a serial killer. It's gotten out of hand and the animosity people have for smokers is often unprovoked.

Example: I go outside and move far away from anyone else to light up. A nonsmoker across the parking lot sees me smoking and deliberately moves in and starts with the staged coughing and rude comments. I didn't invade their space, I went out of my way to keep my habit off of them...but their hatred for smokers has them on a jihad.

Aggression against someone deserving of it is fine but nowadays all it takes is possession of tobacco to be treated like a subhuman.
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replied June 26th, 2008
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its nice that you have that sort of respect to go out of your way to avoid non smokers...not alot of people have that same respect and that more than likely why you get that evil eye...I remember when smoking was still allowed in some restaurants and honestly...it did irritate me...i'm trying to sit there and enjoy my meal and thats the worst thing you could do is light up right across from me...can't you wait until after the meal when you can go out and smoke without bothering others...or go to the bar even...i love how some restaurants now have a "smoking" and "non smoking" section divided by an invisible wall...smoke does travel...I respect the fact that you do go out of your way to not effect others, but those that will light up just about anywhere are the reason you still get those dirty looks
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replied June 26th, 2008
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I agree. I respect it when smokers make attempts to be considerate of others, but a lot of times when I'm leaving a store or restaurant, I walk right into a cloud of smoke because there's a smoker doing his/her thing RIGHT outside the door. I definitely don't appreciate it, especially when I have my two year old daughter with me who also has to pass through that disgusting cloud. I'm not ashamed of giving those people dirty looks, but only because I think they deserve it.

Good for you for being considerate, Darkmoon.
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replied June 18th, 2009
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replied June 18th, 2009
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Drinking is worse, you'll lose your kidney or liver before you lose your lung to cancer in relation to chain smoking/drinking.

Drinking is also more detrimental to others around you or in you.
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replied June 26th, 2009
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An interesting article from CBC news website
1 in 25 deaths worldwide linked to alcohol consumption: study
The Canadian Press

One in every 25 deaths worldwide can be linked to diseases or injuries related to alcohol consumption, concludes a Canadian-led study, which equates the libation's burden of harm to that of smoking almost a decade ago.

In 2004, the most recent year for which global statistics are available, 3.8 per cent of all deaths were attributable to alcohol (6.3 per cent for men and 1.8 per cent for women), the study found.

Most of the deaths blamed on booze result from injuries, cancer, cardiovascular disease, liver disorders like cirrhosis and violence, say the authors, whose study is one in a series of papers on the global impact of alcohol published in The Lancet this week.

The high death toll attributed to alcohol is even more startling when viewed in the context of overall global consumption.

"Worldwide, more people abstain than drink," principal researcher Jurgen Rehm, a senior scientist at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto, said Thursday.

"It's not only Muslim countries — of course they contribute to this — but also countries like India where about 95 per cent of the women abstain, where about 80 per cent of the males abstain."

"And India has more than one billion inhabitants, so they really count."

Disability link
Rehm said alcohol consumption is also responsible for five per cent of "years lived with disability" among the global population.

"Alcohol has links to cancer, to accidents where people are killed, but if you then go into the neuropsychiatry diseases or alcohol dependence, a lot of those diseases do not kill you, they just disable you," Rehm said.

Imbibing — especially in significant quantities over time — has been strongly linked to a number of cancer types, among them: head and neck malignancies, especially esophageal tumours, and breast and colorectal cancer.

While some positive effects on heart health have been reported with moderate intake of quaffing, Rehm said heavier drinking is known to actually contribute to cardiovascular disease.

The researchers say two different aspects of alcohol consumption affect health: the amount one drinks on average and one's pattern of tippling, including binge or heavy drinking.

Globally, average alcohol consumption was equivalent to 6.2 litres of pure ethanol per year, or about a dozen 10-ml units per person per week, the study found.

In Europe, the figure is higher, at almost 22 10-ml units per week. North Americans take in an average of 18 units weekly, while eastern Mediterranean countries have the lowest average consumption at 1.3 units per week.

Ten millilitres of ethanol is equivalent to what would be found in a bottle of beer, a medium glass of wine or a shot of spirits.

Former Soviet countries top list
Europe had one of the highest death rates related to alcohol — one in 10. Within Europe, the former Soviet Union countries had the highest proportion at 15 per cent, or around one in every seven deaths.

"Lest familiarity with alcohol engenders complacency," says a Lancet editorial, "consider the example of Russia — where in some industrial cities, adult workers may drink one bottle of vodka per day."

A paper in the journal's series shows that if "associations with alcohol consumption are causal, then over half of deaths in men aged 15 to 54 years during 1990-2001 in the three Russian cities studied were due to alcohol," says the editorial, possibly helping to explain why the life expectancy of Russian men is just 59 years.

Dr. Tim Stockwell, director of Centre for Addictions Research of B.C., said the rigorously conducted study is actually "very conservative" in its calculations of alcohol-related deaths worldwide.

"The data have been coming out on this kind of thing for years and because alcohol is our favourite drug, we kind of put it away in a too-hard basket or one we don't believe," Stockwell, who was not involved in the study, said from Victoria.

"The fact is there's been proven causal connections between alcohol consumption and 60 causes of death. But you don't have to be an alcoholic to experience these things. We're talking about drinking at unsafe levels, so the regular drip, drip, drip into the body."

No more than 2-3 daily drinks
Experts generally agree that men should limit alcohol consumption to three drinks a day, while women should not exceed two a day, Stockwell said.

"If you're getting much above that on average a day, you're certainly increasing your risk of premature death."

Rehm said the big worry when it comes to disease and deaths from booze is the developing world, especially Asia, where increased industrialization and globalization are leading to consumption rates creeping upward.

"We're not talking about the poorest of the poor, we're not talking about Africa. We're talking about those emerging economies like China, like Thailand, who are right now increasing their cross-national product, who are getting more and more westernized in a lot of ways, and that is where alcohol is currently the Number 1 risk factor."

"And it's where consumption and alcohol-related harm is increasing."

Rehm said the global burden of disease from drinking is about the same size as that of smoking in 2000 (tobacco use rates have been steadily dropping in some countries due to public health measures), but is sure to get worse as more people add wine, beer and spirits to their list of libations.

"The big message is treat alcohol like tobacco," not as a substance that is relatively benign except for "those bad alcoholics," he said. "That is not true, neither for Canada nor globally."

"So we need to rethink alcohol completely as a risk factor. Of course, we will not prohibit alcohol, but we should make it more expensive so it's consumed in smaller quantities and in quantities which are actually not as detrimental for health."
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replied September 7th, 2009
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Both smoking & alcohol abuse are worse!
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Which choice is more damaging to your general health? Smoking, which would be just smoking a pack a day or over drinking alcohol abuse? Over drinking meaning that you get drunk everyday. What do you think is worse in the long run and tell us about it.



Both are worse!

when we take an individual both are harmful for his health.
More over, both these are indirectly affecting an individual's family too.

When a man smokes many others standing near by him are passive smokers!
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replied July 9th, 2010
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replied July 29th, 2010
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I'm not sure what my views on this one are.
I see them almost as bad as one another.

Smoking is always harmful to your health, regardless as to how much you smoke. Obviously, the more you smoke, the more harm you do yourself, but it is always harmful even in small amounts. Alcohol however in small amounts can actually be beneficial to your health and there is nothing wrong with it in this case.

However alcohol once you drink enough can play with your sense of judgement. People get into fights, people drink-drive and can end up killing people. Smoking large amounts is harmful to you, but it does not render you incapable of making important decisions. My boyfriend smokes and he never lets his smoking affect me. A relative of mine however screwed up her marriage bigtime and nearly alienated her kids because she let alcohol come before them in her relationship. She went to rehab drunk and came out drunk. The emotional damage that did to her family is horrible.

However even smoking CAN affect other people if there is the possibility of other people being subjected to the effects of passive smoking. I'm not attacking smokers because I believe they have the right to smoke if they wish, as long as they don't subject anyone else to their habit.
I see them both therefore as harmful, however in my opinion alcohol abuse is worse because not only can it screw YOUR health up but it can also screw with the emotions and mental health of OTHER people around you too. Smoking does less harm to the health of other people than alcohol.
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replied January 23rd, 2012
Drinking is way healthier
Smoking is worse and its pointless.. at least with alcohol its social and fun and makes you feel good, Smoking stinks, u will get shortness of breath yellow teeth grey skin and a million cancers from the chemicals.
smoking will stunt your growth you will suffercate to death in the end.
To get liver disease do u have any idea how much you need to drink? and guess what the liver repairs itself within just 5 weeks of no alcohol.
and the damage you do to your lungs is irreverseable.
You can have a brain hemerage from smoking.. loose legs hands feet...
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