Mysterious Chest And Neck Pain Posted: 09-14-05 23:35pm
I have seen several doctors (including 2
different cardiologists), and no one can
seem to tell me what my problem is.
I'm a 29 year old male. I'm 6'1", and
obese at 250 lbs. I've kept a careful
journal of my symptoms, and my progress
with this problem. I'll try to make this
as brief as possible.
The short:
for five months, i've been getting sharp
pains in my neck along the carotid
arteries. Sometimes just one side, and
sometimes both. It's gotten much better
as time has gone on, but it started out
pretty bad, and my doctor thought at first
that it might be my heart, but that has
been ruled out. I've been told it's
muscular.
Any clue what could be causing this?
The long:
i'm not sure what information is or isn't
useful, so i've just tried to summarize my
whole relationship with this problem.
During march and april, I was drinking a
_lot_ of caffeine. I would guess around
six or seven cups of coffee a day. I was
taking my ritalin in the recommended doses
(10 mg three times a day). I was under a
tremendous amount of stress due to work
and school deadlines. To get rid a lot of
this stress, I started hitting the gym a
lot. I did a lot of upper-body weight
training, perhaps improperly.
Then one day, during sex, I started
getting sharp pains along my neck and
headaches. The headaches stayed mostly in
the back of my head. I also had a sharp
pain in my sternum when I took a deep
breath, and thought I might have a lung
issue.
I found that the symptoms usually occurred
if I exerted my upper-body.
I told my doctor about my problems. She
said it sounded like my heart. My blood
pressure was 110/65. My resting ekg was
normal. So she ordered a treadmill.
It was two weeks before I could take the
treadmill. In that time, I was taking 81
mg dose of asprin a day, and I cut out the
weight training and the caffeine. During
those two weeks, the symptoms seemed to
get better. It would take more and more
exertion to get them to show.
During my treadmill, I did not get any
symptoms. Near the end of the test, when
the incline was so steep that I had to
hold on with my arms, it started just a
little bit, and only on the left side. I
started to get a headache on the left side
of my head as well. The doctor said there
was an identifiable shift in my ekg, and
my blood pressure got up to 260/90. She
recommended I see a cardiologist, and she
prescribed 25mg toprol xl for the
meantime.
It was a few months before I could see a
cardiologist, but when I did, he said it
looked like I might have arterial
blockage, but said it could be muscular,
and ordered a second stress test and
bloodwork.
The second stress test my blood pressure
got up 250/90, but there was no shift in
my ekg and no symptoms. The doctor told
me that my heart was fine, as was my
cholesteral. He said the exaggerated
metabolic response (by this I believe he
was referring to my high bp) could be due
to the fact that I stopped the toprol cold
the day before the stress test.
I write for a living, and spend long hours
at my computer. I've wondered if it was
my posture, or something. I'm not sure
what. I get the symptoms at weird times.
I went from the heat into an air
conditioned restaurant and sat down at a
booth and had pain in my neck, both sides.
I don't get the headaches anymore. I'm
naturally concerned about it. I've gone
back to drinking caffeine and taking my
ritalin, and i've gone off toprol. The
symptoms, while a fraction of what they
used to be, still occur.
I'm not sure what I should or shouldn't
do. I'm concerned that it may actually
still be a cardiovascular issue. If it is
just a muscular issue, then what on earth
is it, and what should I do about it? I
don't get pain when I stretch my neck or
rotate my head. Could this be a nerve
issue?
It's not that the pain is so uncomfortable
that it is a problem itself -- it usually
doesn't last very long, and it's not that
bad. My real concern is that it could be
an indicator of a serious problem.
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ambi
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 17
Posted: 09-19-05 18:05pm
First of all the most important thing toi
do is to try not to stress about
it.....Handle it the symptoms as
rationally as you can so then at least the
stress factor that ive found doctors like
to refer to is diminished.Ive had a throat
tightness which diesnt sound much like
what you have been experiencing in your
neck for the last few months...
I can more tell you that it doesnt sound
like its a nerve issue-if anything its
muscular.It wouldnt hurt to try and sit
straight as possible and see if any of the
symptoms lessen.
The sternum pain is the main thing that I
have had.After many visits to cardologists
its diagnosed as a thing called
costochondritis-which is a chest pain
sometimes on the left or right and maybe
even both which is caused by an inflamed
joint.Its nothing life threatening but can
cause alot of worry because it feels so
much like a heart attack.My chest pain is
on the left so it pulls on the muscle
going up the left of the neck all the way
to my jaw.My doctor said that
costochondritis is very common in people
who life weights or maybe even didnt lift
weights correctly....You can kind of
tell(not a very advanced method) if you
have it if you run your hand straight down
from your chin to your chest and press on
the bone slightly to the left and right of
the middle.If it feels really sore and
tender to the touch then it is more
likely to be a joint
issue(costochondritis) than it is a heart
problem...
Ive had neck muscle pain for a few months
and chest pain for almost the whole year
and it may seem like pretty warped logic
but im not dead yet-and I figure where it
anything to lose sleep about something
serious would have already happened:)
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kot
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 2
Chest, Neck Pain Posted: 12-27-05 20:33pm
Hello ambi !
You are not alone I think I have the same
symptoms.
I went to my clinic at least 20 times for
the past 6-7 weeks (from november till
present).
All ekg’s (about 4) look normal.
Blood pressure is ok but my pulse is
increased from the first day of my chest
pain symptoms (around 80-90 sometimes even
more; before I usually had very stable
around 60 p/m).
On this week 7 one more symptom appeared
---- my neck muscles are very tired on the
back and very sensitive on the sides
(feels painful when touched). Plus throat
tightness as in your case (sometimes feels
like not enough air).
I have a few more symptoms like:
1. Sweating usually evening ours or at
night
2. Cold hands (sweating palms)
3. Dizziness
4. Sometimes I have a tingling or
trembling in different locations of my
body (feels like my muscles shaking).
So, ambi could you please write me back
more about your symptoms.
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Encino, California
Posted: 12-29-05 00:18am
Malmorcan,
did you have traumatic injury in neck?
According to my experience it is neck
problem. It is called sympathetic
cervical spondylosis.
The symptoms include: neck pain, headache,
pain and tingling in arm(s), blurred
vision, tinnitus, nausea, vertigo or
dizziness, short of breath, chest pain,
heart beating, sweating... Sometime it
mimic cardiac problems and been
misdiagnosed.
It is due to the irritation of sympathetic
nerve from cervical problems.
Chiropratic adjustment combines with
acupuncture will give you maximum relief.
No matter you believe in it or not, just
give it try. Let's see what happens
after the tx.
Good luck,
jun
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ambi
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 17
Posted: 12-29-05 23:55pm
Hi kot.....
I get alot of the same symptoms as you
except for the night sweating....
I really havent had any luck in finding
out what is going on.I just know that I
need to try and gorget it and not let it
develop into a panic disorder.Whenever I
get an kcg I use it as a sign that im not
dying and try to forget about it.I did
have one doctor say that alot of symptoms
I have eg nexk tightness,chest pain can be
attributed to the acid reflux that I
have.The dizziness and muscle
weakness,tingling(which I also get but
usually in my hands,face) sound like they
colukd all be connected.
I wish I could help you more:(
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kot
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 2
Posted: 12-30-05 04:09am
Hey ambi,
yesterday I went to the emergency room,
because of the numbness all over my
body.
My hands were cold and even paralyzed
than. Doctors made lots of tests such us
blood, urine, ekg, muscles enzyme and
others. They gave me a shot of lorazepam
and my numbness and paralyzed hands are
disappeared ( I felt normal except more
dizziness ).
After I was told that my hart is normal
as well as muscles. So doctors suspect
that it could be nerves problem, therefore
they gave me a referral for an mri of my
back, neck and head. For the chest ct
scan.
After all they prescribed lorazepam 1mg
tablets. Give ½ to 1 tablet orally
every 6 hours when needed for anxiety (et.
When you cannot breeze or hands going
cold and sweating, or chest pain).
Ambi if your symptoms are similar I would
recommend this medication when you feel
really bad. Lorazepam is not only an
anxiety medication but also a muscle
relaxant.
However it is not for a prolonged use -
just for a temporary relieve. This
medication is not a toy and could be
dangerous.
By the way what insurance you use and what
medical center?
I wish you full recovery in 2006.
Happy new year!!!
Kot
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Malmorcan
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 7
Posted: 12-30-05 21:16pm
Thanks for the replies. I looked up
costochondritis and found a reference to a
related disorder, tietze's syndrome. It
turned out that that was my problem.
It's similar, but I recognized it from the
sudden onset, and the fact that it got
much better in the first two weeks, which
is common. It was a result of improper
weight training of my upper body. It
caused an inflamation, and it said that
swelling was common with it. It's more
common in women, and usually the result of
physical strain. The swelling in that
area, when inflamed, could slightly
restrict blood flow to my head, which was
why I had a shift in my ekg when I was on
the treadmill the first time; it only
happened after 7 seven minutes on the
treadmill, when the incline was so steep
that I had to hold onto the rails to stay
on, and that's when I began to get the
symptons. That's why when I did the
repeat treadmill a few months later, I did
not hold onto the handle-bars, and I had
no shift in my ekg.
It's entirely gone now, thankfully, and
i'm very relieved that it wasn't my heart.
Thanks for the feedback, it pointed me
in the right direction, and gave me some
peace of mind.
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Tenacious
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 1
Mysterious Illness Posted: 05-09-08 13:03pm
I just happened upon this site today and
was shocked at how similar many of the
posting were to my symptoms. At least the
symptoms I used to have. I didn't feel
like my normal self. Check this out...
Previous symptoms: extreme fatigue,
weakness in arms and legs, chest tightness
sometimes with pain, night sweats,
increased resting heart rate (got up to
100 when my normal was 60), throat
dryness/hoarseness, hip pain, difficulty
walking, asthma/bronchitis, tremors/shakes
in neck and arms/hands, eye strain and
redness, weight fluctuations (first loss
30 pounds, then gained 50 pounds that I
couldn't get rid of), skin rashes, "the
itchies" where I would itch all over -
especially at night, hearing loss, ear
aches, memory loss, confusion,
dizziness/vertigo, slight ankle swelling,
headaches that would sometimes last all
day, neck tightness in the back and
between shoulder blades, shooting pains in
my legs and back, lower back pain, pain in
spine, loss of breath, a slight cough,
skin color darkened especially on my legs
and feet, nausea, discolored toe nails,
loose teeth, mood swings and irritability,
very dry skin especially on bottom of
feet.
These were random symptoms that I have
dealt with for about 5 years. At first
they were minor. I didn't have them all
at once. By themselves, they were easy to
dismiss as stress or out-of-shape. But
this past year as things got worse
(affecting my heart) or strange (like
being diagnosed with asthma at 30 - I was
like no way), I started to really pay
attention.
Doctors seemed to be of no help, so I got
on the internet. I found out that flight
attendants seemed to suffer from
mysterious symptoms as well. About 6
years ago, I used to travel frequently for
my job. Within a year of my frequent
flying, the symptoms started. In
hindsight, I believe there is a
connection.
In my research, I have determined that the
culprit is toxins. It can be arsenic,
pesticides (both of which I had close to
poisonous levels), or some other chemicals
or heavy metals. According to my
findings, these symptoms can develop if
you have ever travelled by mass
transportation, been exposed to or around
pesticides (especially professional
grade), office areas, housing
developments, fertilizer, well water,
working in a manufacturing setting, or
living near abandonded mines.
What seems to happen is the toxins get
into your blood stream, poisoning your
blood and depriving it of oxygen. It
affects your mucous membranes and
lymphatic system. As a result, all of
your major organs become poisoned or toxic
and oxygen deprived causing cell damage.
But the toxic level and symptoms are below
the thresholds, so all medical tests (I
had EKGs, stress test, tests for
chemicals) are within "normal" range.
Your immune system gets so overwhelmed
with trying to fight the toxins, it
becomes overburdened making you vulnerable
to every bug out there (more colds/flus,
gastrointestinal problems, stomach flus,
etc).
This thing is so bad, I passed it on to my
children (chemicals can cross the placenta
and can be found in breast milk). They
were born with higher than usual levels of
arsenic and pesticide in their blood. My
oldest daughter used to fly with me. She
has the same symptoms. I had all of our
arsenic levels checked as part of our
regular physicals. My level was 35 (urine
test - high limit is 50). My daughter's
level is 18 (blood test, which is probably
more accurate, high limit is 23) and my
infant has 7 (blood test, high limit is
23). I also had inorganic phosphate (a
pesticide test) checked which was near the
high limit.
The Good News...
I sought homeopathic help in the form of
an herbalist/accupuncturist (I went
through a couple before I found one that
is excellent). I started on chinese herbs
(the nastiest tasting stuff I've ever
drank but I wanted to get healthy at all
costs). I also increased my raw vegetable
intake, especially fresh organic spinach,
broccoli, and carrots (anything with
vitamin A and fiber). Organic is better
because my sensitive system couldn't take
anymore chemicals.
I've always eaten fruits pretty well but
tried to eat blackberries and blueberries
especially (excellent antioxidants). I
started using olive oil and fresh garlic
in my cooking, especially paired with
marinera sauce. I started taking garlic
pills and fresh coconut. I tried eating
bread with flaxseed in it. I ate
cancer-fighting foods, especially seeds
(including swollowing apple seeds) and
nuts. I drank plenty of antioxidant teas
(green tea, kombucha tea). I even made
tea from loquat leaves from a tree in my
grandmother's backyard in CA!
I decreased my dairy and red meat intake.
Reduced fast food. Reduced breads and
pastries. Decreased anything that used
white sugar and flour (like cereal, ice
cream, especially oreo cookies seemed to
cause these "episodes" of extreme
fatigue). Notice that I decreased these
"bad" foods. I couldn't eliminate them
because I have horrible will-power and
hate to deny myself. So I just limited
them. I did stop using iodized salt
(switching to kosher salt) and limited
eating foods from the sea (which could be
contaminated with mercury and other heavy
metals and chemicals - I had an "episode"
from salmon pate).
I even did Takara Foot Patches/Pads. I
checked out the ingredients. All
ingredients are natural detoxifiers. The
day after I tried them, my lower back pain
was gone. There are many versions out
there but I actually researched and tried
these. So I can only vouch for this brand
- TakaraPatch.com.
My theory is that you have to start with
detoxing your body first. When your blood
starts getting clean, then it can absorb
the vitamins and minerals. Getting the
nutrients into your system boosts your
immune system, helping your body heal
itself!
My results - I dropped my arsenic level
down to 9 (blood test, high limit is 23)!
I feel great! I have more energy, I am
able to play with my children, I joined my
church choir (with my throat healed, I can
sing again), and I went back to work! I
none of the symptoms from above!!!
You probably don't have to do everything I
did, including the blood test. I just
felt like I had to know. The type of
toxin really doesn't matter. It could be
one thing or a combination of things. It
can even be something your body needs but
just has too much of right now. Whatever
is poisoning you, the important thing is
that you eliminate it. Start paying
attention to your bowel movements (smell,
color, "texture"). I know it sounds
gross, but it is one of the best
indicators of how your overall body is
functioning.
I hope all of this helps those out there
suffering from unknown illnesses and
random symptoms. After starting my "detox
and immune boost program", It took about 2
weeks to see noticeable results. My last
blood test was performed 3 months after
the start of this program.
Just remember, it may be something in your
blood. More importantly, you can "cure"
it and get back to normal. Shoot me a
note if you have any questions. Take care
and happy health.