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John B

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Posted: 09-08-05 19:08pm

I hope there's someone who can give me some outside perspective of this...Because i'm stuck. This is a long story, but you will find it interesting and I really need your help.

First off, I live a great life. I come from a well-established family, i've got lots of good and deep friendships, my grades are straight a's, my physical health is vibrant, i've got huge mental drive and can attack any problem - no matter how big, hard or complex it might seem - and solve it. My career has just started out very well and the future looks very bright.

But: there's one catch. I've never been in a relationship, and i'm 19. I'm fine with that, so don't get all empathic with me ok? But I do miss it, having someone to relate to, holding the one you love in your arms, looking into her beautiful eyes and feeling the immense glory... I can't describe it with words!

Here's some history: i've been in love with three girls throughout my life. The first time was when I was just a kid, I was in love with a girl for 2 years and then we moved to another town. There (of course =) ) I instantly fell in love with another girl, it was love at first sight. That lasted for 7 years, and I never did anything about it. The last time I fell in love was half a year ago, when I was overseas for a school project. Only problem was she hooked up with one of my friends, so I had to fall deeply in love, realize it couldn't happen and forget about it in just one week.

I never did anything about my crushes. I was paralyzed, I could sit staring at sunsets forever, stop in the middle of laughing at a friend's joke and gaze away at the beach with a ten-thousand yard stare. I was so in love that I thought about it every day for years and years.


But as I grew older I realized that such a condition wouldn't work. You don't get any work done, and you become so self-absorbed that you cease to support your friends. So I did some things with myself. I've always been exercising (football, hockey, weightlifting, running) and like to push myself to the limits. Well, I started to push myself beyond the limits. I would listen to really tough, heavy music, watch deep war movies like gladiator, the thin red line, black hawk down and others - and exercise frantically during the night, often with heavy study burdens and sleep deprivation. During the winter i'd go out when it was freezing and dark outside, put on my boots and start running. I ran fast, and then faster. The snow would make my legs heavy with lactic acid. I'd go on. The cold air and the oxygen deficit would make my lungs hurt. I'd go on. I ran until I literally fell to the ground, beyond exhaustion.

What I did was I burned myself out so hard that I didn't have any energy left to feel anything, not even love. Also, the adrenaline and other "war hormones" that constantly flooded my body made me feel nothing. I hardened myself, body and soul, and became able to cope with anything. I froze out any feelings of love, and was able to have a great time with my friends, do extremely well in school and build the body of my dreams. You see, love for me means deep longing and depression. I guess i'm pretty sentimental. I can look at a short news telegram that announces the deaths of 2 american soldiers from a suicide car bomb and feel... I can't describe the feeling. Anyway, there's great empathy for people in general. And often that works against me since this is a tough world.


Last time I repeated the "burnout, freeze out"-procedure was half a year ago, when I fell in love with a girl who two days after we met (we were coworkers at the time, but had never met before) got together with my friend. I realized I couldn't have feelings for her. So I drank a lot...There was already a lot of drinking among us (normal procedure, couple 19yearolds living in a hostel, you gotta live life, right? =) )

during a three-week period I drank extremely much (passed out twice, drank vodka by the bottle, 70 cl a night) and at the same time exercised hard, and led a working team of five students (we were doing quality improvement work at a factory). After those weeks had ended i'd lost 30 lbs of muscle and fat, but mostly muscle. That I was burnt out is the least you can say. Hard part was that I couldn't talk to anyone about it...So people were probably having wild guesses as to what was troubling me...




So where does this lead me? Loneliness doesn't work, I can't function living alone my whole life, and it's not the life I want. I mean, I want to be in romances, meet new girls, date and have fun, and maybe you find the one you're going to spend the rest of you life with. I've got so much love to give, and I know that my life would be countless many times happier. But what's the problem? I'm scared. Scared sh*tless. I can take on any task, walk in tough streets with complete confidence, deal with conflict and hold presentations to top executives without any nervousness. But I can't walk up to a girl and ask her out. I mean, you gotta understand, just the thought of it blows my mind! I've never done it before, and when I allow myself to feel anything for a girl I immediately start to feel all that i've experienced.

You know how to turn this around? I know it will work out in the end (these things always do) but I want something to happen now. I'm action oriented and i'm tough enough to try new solutions if the old ones don't work. But right now I need your input, because i'm stuck.

Thanks!
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 09-08-05 21:37pm

Wonderful presentation--but sorry I really dont know how to help in this situation. I just wish you the best of luck I hope someone else can help you. Possibly a guy.
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John B

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Posted: 09-09-05 19:33pm

I hope there's someone who can give me some tip. Even though i'm used to run races alone it's nice to have someone who knows what i'm talking about.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 09-09-05 19:55pm

I have learned that you cannot want something too much, it may happen, and be very wrong! I know, I have been thru some bad marriages myself, after my first marriage it took me a long time to even stand by a guy without shaking!
You need to learn to love yourself, before others will love you! Do not be negative, be positive, we all have a certain fear of rejection but we must move on.
If you are feeling that down and depressed, talk to your Dr., their is such a thing of social anxiety disorder.
Do not be afraid to ask someone out, the worst thing they can say is no and then you just move on to someone else.
You are only 19y/o their is plenty of time. Take it slow, their is someone for everyone!
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John B

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Posted: 09-10-05 04:54am

I think I was pretty clear about it; my life is great and I don't have any "disorders" whatsoever. I'm never negative or look pessimisticly on possibilities - that wouldn't be an honorable way of living. I've got huge energy, I can go into a room and lift up everybody in that room just by being there, being positive and clear. I never burden others with problems; I help others solve _their_ problems. And as for the "social anxiety" bull, i've got no problem talking to anyone, anywhere. Let's be clear about that. And this "there's someone for everyone"-blahblah just sounds pathetic. Don't say that to anyone, because doing so is degrading to that person's honor. I've had lots of girls asking me out, and some have been in love with me for long periods...Kinda ironic :wink: I know I sound like a german drill sergeant and honestly, bragging like i've done in this thread is despicable, but I chose to do so because without full information you can't draw an accurate conclusion.

No, the problem is i'm walking around the issue. It's like when people decide to lose weight, by a gym card, get protein powder, read about nutrition, read about training, talk about it with friends, buy expensive gadgets - but never get down 'n dirty and push the weights!
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s_kalb

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Posted: 09-10-05 07:33am

john b wrote:
and as for the "social anxiety" bull, i've got no problem talking to anyone, anywhere. Let's be clear about that.


so you are abe to talk to girls I guess. Just talk for a beginning. No, talking doesn't "lock" you on just-a-friend mode, like many people told to me.


Dating doesn't always mean saying "go out with me" to a complete stranger. Sometimes you don't even have to say the words or ask something. Well sure it's better to make the first step, but if the question "would you go out with me?" embarasses you, there's plenty of other ways. Me and my gf haven't started the traditional way either.


john b wrote:
and this "there's someone for everyone"-blahblah just sounds pathetic. Don't say that to anyone, because doing so is degrading to that person's honor.


i agree. Well not completely. I mean okay I agree with the "there's someone for everyone" statement but it's like saying "even you can find someone. How unsuccessful you can be." don't worry it's just a matter of interpetation, I know sandyallen didn't mean it that way. (please don't take it badly.)

john b wrote:
i know I sound like a german drill sergeant and honestly, bragging like i've done in this thread is despicable


yes.


john b wrote:
but I chose to do so because without full information you can't draw an accurate conclusion.


i agree too. At least we know what you want.



Just talk to girls who interest you. But don't look too interested. Girls don't like little puppies following them around. Be cool and natural. If the girl likes you she'll show you somehow. That's up to you to find out.



Maybe this helped you. Maybe not at all. I just hope this frustration won't affect the other great aspects of your life.
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Kittykatus

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Posted: 10-12-05 06:25am

Love does suck someties. It's nice that you are so confident in other aspects. Just go out and make yourself known. I get nervous and have never had a brill loving relationship in my lifetime. One day and said stuff it all and walkedin to a shop and started chatting to this guy...And believe it or not now were partners!!

Go for it mate! I bet there plenty of girls waiting for you!
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chepas

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Posted: 10-12-05 06:56am

First of all i'd like to tell you that you are the one who asked for help so when someone gives you what they think is good advice, then you shouldn't diss it. You were really rude and perhaps that is one of your problems.

So this is all just my opinion but here goes my two cents:

i think that it sounds like you haven't dealt with your feelings very well. You seem to think you have been in love many times, and I can relate since I used to have the same thing (9 year crushes on guys etc) but in the end I realised that there are lots of different kinds of love. And from what you described, it seems more like infatuation or even obsession with the idea of being in love. We all get lonely, and it sucks alot. And I get that whole thing about wanting to distract yourself and work on yourself in all the other areas of your life instead. But it seems like you've become this persona of someone you like the idea of but may not truly feel like thats the real you. I mean you talk about love and feelings and it sounds like you think alot about it and yet in reality you ignore your emotions by drinking or excessive exercise. I mean moderation in everything is supposed to be it right?

I dunno, maybe you're looking for an answer, a solution but I doubt you'll get it here. I disagree with others, maybe i'm cynical but I don't really think that there is someone out there for everyone. I know people have died without someone or have lived their life with someone they didn't love. It just isn't that easy. I do believe that working on yourself (inside and outside) makes it easier to be ready for the relationship you want so much. Maybe your first priority is to feel happy without someone. Cause it's when you need someone to complete you where it can really screw things up.

Only from my own lack of life experience but I hope it helps in some way, even if only to feel like you're less alone.
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