Sarah...Although I agree with some aspects of your arguement I don't think it's necessary to pick on anyone especially kissybai. I beleive all she meant by hold you head up high was don't be ashamed. No one should be made to feel ashamed about their pregnancy. However I (like I have said before) do not support her keeping the child. Kissybai might be able to do it since she has help and a good head on her shoulders but this girl has none.

I agree with both of you. Although kissy is having her baby she might do a good job, but giving probs to having a baby is not good. Both freaky and kissy are very young. But now the damage has been done and we suggest freaky gives the baby to a loving home, because she is very much twisted. Kissy, you are very young too, being only 14. I had 3 more years to that before I started even thinking about sex. But since you feel you are ready then good ridance to you. Sarah I agree with you on this mess stressing me out. I was talking to jeni forever yesterday and she helped me forget this mess, because boy was it stressing me. I felt so bad for that baby.

That what I said was kind of harsh....But that is ridiculious!! If my children were to come to me at the age of 13 and tell me that they were preggy, I would lose my mind!! I wouldn't beat them...But I would want to sooobad I would probably dream about it. Then I would definately beat the father of the child. Especially if he was 20 years oold!!! Jesus!! I would go to town on his ass!! I did not mean to make kissybai feel bad in any way, because I am not that type of person. All I was trying to do was stop her from giving freaak her props on being a 13 year old mommy. Just the thought of that makes me cringe!! That is why we have adoption agencies. For babies having babies. Reguardless on if kissibai is one year older, she hasn't experiencecd life at all yet. When/if her senior prom comes along, she deefinately will not be able to enjoy it. Her, now, 5 year old will want to know where his/her mommy is going and want to come. She is going to have no life what so ever. Maybe I should restate everything I am saying towards kissybai and freak. You are going to have no life what so ever! Don't you understand that you are the people wwe pay our taxes on each year. The mothers who cannot afford food for themselves, yet have children at ridiculios ages!!! Jeez. Kissybai and freak, please for the love of god, give your children up to the adoption agency. Kissy, I know that you have peobably bondeed with your baby, since you are due in a few short days. But can you only imagin what people think when they see a 14 year old preggy girl!?!
Look, I am sorry if I offended anyone on the forum. This is all about opinios and this is mine. If any of you know me, then you know that I am not a mean person at all. I just like to be honest.

Love always,
sarah

Lol. Thats not gonna work either sarah! Haha your funny and I know what you mean about knocking your kids out, I would too. And I would go for the dad and beat him myself, then let jose at it, then my mom, and then me again! Lol. And these girls might not realize what they are missing out on but its too late now. Kissy has alot of help and the only one who should be guilty about this is her. We cant do much. Yeah we can yell and lecture but its not going to get us nothing but carpal tunnel from typing too much! Lol I cringe too when I hear things like that but what can we do? What we can do for now is lecture kids who arent having sex yet and scare them so they wont want to have sex! I wish kids would enjoy their childhood instead of worrying about boys and sex. Like the other day I was behind this car of freshmen girls and they were dancing all sexy and a little boy maybe 10 in the car next to them was looking and they saw and they were dancing more and blowing kisses at him and stuff, I was ready to be like "see you hoochies, thats what lands you pregnant acting like that!" then I thought, "boy if I didnt need my car so bad, id probably hit them from the behind! Lol" but at least when we have kids sarah, we can teach them better. Like tie their legs together or something. But for the ones who its too late for, wont help much. If anyone should give up her baby, it should be freakybaby because she just worries me. I stress out talking to her.

That is exactly why I choose not to speak to her!! I rarely stress things..I just hate to see extreemely young girls throw their lives away. I mean, come on, how ofter does the boy who impregnated a 14 year old stick around for all of the expences!? I guess she kind of figured that she was too young to be able to get pregnant. I dont know...I am through with the lecturing because I know that all they will do is get upset at me and think that I am judging them. If that were the case I would've used the words "prostitute","promiscuous person" etc. Well I have to go to the hospital now for my 'pre- ops....I hate giving blood to these people!! I am deathly afraid of needles!!

Wish me luck!
Sarah!

Lol me too, if I wasnt id have like 5 tattoos but im scared! Lol. Good luck at the docs ok!

Alright I am going to say this (in caps) in the nicest way I can. First off, I didnt say I felt years older than freak, I said I feel years older than when I (me not her) was 13. Probably becuz so much sh*t has happened to me since then. Also, I am only 24 weeks so my due date is still a ways away not a few days away and just fyi ill b 15. And people dont really look down on me bcuz I dont degrade myself. The only ppl that give me problems are immature people like the promiscuous person I punched. And my babys father is not 20! I would not by any means, break the statatory rape law. That could get him sent to jail. He's only 17. And nothing personal but I think you got hella nerve coming on here saying i'm too young to be pregnant. I used protection, it failed. And werent you the one who had like 2 pregnancy scares cuz u didnt use prtection? And the reason I told freakgirl to hold her head up is bcuz pregnancy is nothing to be ashamed of. I agree, I don't really think she should keep the baby. But you dont have to be as rude to her as you are. Not everyone is as smart and as wise as you are. (sarcastic remark) so please, dont try and diss me over message boards. You should really pm me and get ur facts straight so you dont look like an fool. And more fyi, I didnt really ever have plans on attending prom. Im not very into dances. I might go to my junior prom, but not my senior, since i'm not going to have a senior year. I'm graduating a year early. My life is just fine. Yeah unplanned pregnancy may throw things a bit off course, but its not necessarily a bad thing. Like I posted b4, this baby made me really clean up my act. I quit the weed and pill poppin, and I quit the self destruction. And I dont rely on guys to make me happy anymore. I still have my issues with them obviously, but not bcuz i'm chasing them around. But because i'm trying to get my life in order b4 josh gets here. So as I said, dont judge people you don't know. I didnt judge you when you came here lookin for advice. Although I do have 2 say personally I thought you were an fool. But I kept my mouth shut. And I would really appreciate it if you return the favor. As i'm sure your mother says "if you aint got nuthin nice to say, dont say anything at all." cuz personally, I think your being childish and really dont want to hear it. Thanks much. Thank you darling. And jen, I think you are great and totally right!

Edit note~i really don't like you takin that shot at my parents barons girl. My mother was not ok at all with the fact that I was pregnant and she cried for a week. But she has grown to accept it. As for the 500 dollar appts, ive got health insurance and im not forcing him into anything. I tried and it didnt work. So now I just say w/e and hes coming around on his own. So don't ever ever ever take a shot at anyones parents. I believe that is the (in caps) absoloute most lowest form of insult there is. I am responsible for my actions, not my mother. And as for my health forum ass father he didnt want nething to do with me he left my mom when she found out she was pregnant with me and he dont even know im a girl. Yet I dont blame his parents. I blame him. And it aint like he was too young, the guy was 42 at the time! Just goes to show, age doesn't really matter. Guys of all ages act immature.

Kissy-u go girl!! U were right 2 give freakbaby that advice.It just goes 2 show that we need 2 hear the full story b4 we can go judging.Well done 2 u 4 sorting urself out,i hope ur very happy
liz x

Like I said before I think kissy you had every right to tell her to hold her head up high. Your going to do great, you sound amazing.
Lots of love
tanya

Good for you kissy!! You are going to be a great mom!!

~**~kallie~**~

Although I think all of you girls on this forum are great, I have to come to kissy's defense on this. Ok first off, we're all supposed to be understanding and comforting to these girls who come to us and ask for advice/support. So I dont see where some of you get off by screaming at the poor girl and telling her she's making the wrong decision. She knew she was putting herself in a vulnerable position when she decided to have sex. She used protection, it didnt work...We all make mistakes and we learn from them. As far as I have read, this baby has done nothing but good to her and her life and he's not even born yet....And baronsgirl, you said in an earlier post that in having this child, she'll have no life at all...Im not sure if you were following kissy's story, but the so called "life" that she was leading before josh's conception wasnt necessarily the best one out there...Im really taken back by some of you girls' responses on this one, I mean arent we supposed to support teens going through with their pregnancies? What if she had an abortion? That's one less human life that won't be "thrown away", and instead of commending her for stepping up to the plate, you're ridiculing and castigating her for doing what she feels is right. Yea there's adoption agencies out there, but thats not for everyone. If she can carry this baby for 9 months and go through the works while straightening up her life for him, then the least she deserves is to wake up every morning to her baby boy. Having this child is going to be a huge responsibility and a completely different way of life then she's used to, but instead of popping pills, she'll be rocking her baby to sleep, instead of working unwillingly to buy drugs, she'll be working fullheartedly to give her son the things he needs, and wants. She's going to love her son not because she has to, but because she wants to.And she has every right to hold her head proudly for her son, not because shes a teen mom, but because shes taking on the responsibilities and giving this child a chance at life, rather then run to the clinic to get an abortion appt. Dear god I dont get it, shes coming clean, she knows what shes done wrong, but for once in her life she's making the right decision, and for her...Not for you, me, or anybody else. Because when it comes down to it, what we think doesnt matter. So no matter how many times we health forum and moan the girl's going to do what the girl's going to do regardless! So instead of spewing nasty remarks and prejudices why dont we give our emotional support and respect that she deserves. And whos to say what somebodys life should be like? If god intended for this to happen and her life to be this way, which he obviously did, then so be it. Not every girl is meant to be homecoming queen or the valedictorian of their school. I support kissy all the way for going through with this and withstanding such harsh criticism from people who dont even matter! Can you imagine how shes feeling right now? I can tell you all that if I came here saying I was pregnant at 16 and getting these kinds of responses I would never come back. Kissy,live your life the way you know is right and dont let anybody bring you down...Never give up!
I apologize if I offended anybody...I didnt mean to, its just my opinion..
Much love to everyone,
vanessa

Homecoming queen...Valedictorian... I love all that stuff! (we dont have it but ive seen it in movies!)

Lol liz.....Ur so funny. Thanks vanessa I really appreciate it. And the only reason I do come back is because I know quite a few of these girls (not all) have no room to judge me. So I don't let it get to me. I am very happy with the way my life is going (altho I could stand to bring my grades up a little lol) but yes I really do appreciate it. And not to bring my self to her level, but barons_girl is the one who had a pregnancy then miscarriage and then thought she was pregnant again....All due to unprotected sex so I really say she has no room to judge or criticize me or anyone else on the forum. And taking low blows at ppls families and the way they were raised is not cool. At all. And I do take great offense in that. I love my mother more than I could ever love some guy who comes along.....I hope my son learns that some day but ya know im sure he will eventually.....God knows I learned the hard way. Lol. But yeah ill ttyl. Pm me if u wanna talk.

Well then, study hard and bring your grades up!