Eugenics to Neo Eugenics - Reproductive Choice
The strategy has several parts; each part must be understood in order to understand the whole.
First. The eugenicists still appeal to racism but the appeal is well disguised - going by such code names as "gene frequency", which is a legitimate term in genetics. This intellectual camouflage is adaptive behavior in the service of survival, a technique which the eugenicists have apparently learned from the animals they strive to emulate.
Second. The eugenicists adopted a policy of "crypto-eugenics" following world war ii. "crypto-eugenics" means working through other organizations, such as the international planned parenthood federation.
Third. The eugenicists adopted the tactic of finding and using ambiguities and loopholes in the law. Ambiguities or loopholes found by eugenic lawyers such as glanville williams (es) and harriet pilpel are exploited to allow eugenical doctors such as dugald baird (es), leonard arthur (es) and alan guttmacher (aes) to introduce the desired eugenic activity as a normal medical procedure, done at the patient's request. Introducing the eugenic activity as a normal medical procedure allows it to be shrouded in medical privacy - an extra layer of haze in addition to that gained by working through other organizations.
Four. The eugenicists use the techniques of modern advertising to rally support. Since the goal is antidemocratic and the means involves secrecy and legal quibbles, only advertising is really suitable as a means of, well, of advertising. After all, people have to find out somehow that steroids are available for their girlfriends, abortions and infanticide for their children, starvation for their injured realtives and a suicide machine for their elderly parents. Only advertising knows how to motivate people's wallets while bypassing their heart and brain.
And how successful eugenic advertising has been! People who would scorn to be caught believing in the marlboro man or to repeating "it's the real thing" without ironic overtones, will absorb complete little fantasies from condom and abortion ads. They mouth empty slogans such as "it's a woman's choice" or "safe sex" with a devotion that must bring tears of ecstasy to the poll takers and ad men involved. Slogans and demons are preferred to reasons. Campaigns based on fostering hatred of the roman catholic hierarchy have proved very successful in persuading women to take cancer causing steroids. In another triumph, the word "selection" used by josef mengele at auschwitz has been metamorphosed into "choice" and gained the support of the american hebrew union.
Five. The great enemy of eugenics is and always has been the roman catholic church. The eugenics societies therefore expend great energy on destroying or neutralizing this church's opposition. For example, in the early sixties, while eugenic journals were filled with discussions of how best to change society in the eugenic direction, eugenicists engaged certain deluded catholics, such as fr. John o'brien of notre dame, in solemn discussions about "not imposing morality". These unhappy souls were then persuaded to work to prevent the church from taking a stand on eugenic issues because "it was not right for the church to impose its moral values on others". Thus, as the eugenicists worked to change society and impose their disastrous morality on everyone, (see for example, "population policy", kingsley davis, science, v. 158, 1967, p. 730 with its sequels "beyond family planning", john d. Rockefeller iii, bucharest, 1974 and the proposed cairo protocols 1994) they had the satisfaction of seeing the catholic church divided and weakened in its opposition to them by some catholic bishops, priests, papers and magazines. And even today some "catholics", such as daniel callahan of the american eugenics society, do every thing they can to keep the church from effectively opposing the imposition of eugenic morality on everyone.
It is a matter of historical fact that the catholic church is the only international organization run by a group of well educated, dedicated men, which opposes eugenics. Why this is so is a mystery. And the demonic delight the eugenicists feel in attacking the catholic church is a mystery too.
But with each passing day the issue becomes clearer: eugenics or democracy.
On one side are the rich and powerful eugenicists, the followers of malthus by way of darwin. These scrooges think that there are too many sick, too many old, too many inferior, too many chinese, too many indians, too many, too many, too many people. They want to take evolution into their own qualified, elite, wonderful hands; they don't believe in the sanctity of life or in democracy, its political expression; and they have learned nothing from the series of social disasters which their policies have inflicted on this century - except to be careful not to get caught. That's one choice.
And on the other side, there are the orthodox catholics who believe that the world was made by a great and loving creator on behalf of persons, all of whom are immortal souls from the moment of conception. Catholics believe that the world has a redeemer, jesus christ; and a mother to teach it unselfishness - the great mother of god, mary most holy. Therefore they oppose that degradation of human beings which is eugenics and support democracy. That's another choice.
Between these two organized camps lie most of the people of the world. In obscure ways over the next thirty years they will choose between the two. This decision will be the first global decision.
As the song says: " which side are you on? "
First. The eugenicists still appeal to racism but the appeal is well disguised - going by such code names as "gene frequency", which is a legitimate term in genetics. This intellectual camouflage is adaptive behavior in the service of survival, a technique which the eugenicists have apparently learned from the animals they strive to emulate.
Second. The eugenicists adopted a policy of "crypto-eugenics" following world war ii. "crypto-eugenics" means working through other organizations, such as the international planned parenthood federation.
Third. The eugenicists adopted the tactic of finding and using ambiguities and loopholes in the law. Ambiguities or loopholes found by eugenic lawyers such as glanville williams (es) and harriet pilpel are exploited to allow eugenical doctors such as dugald baird (es), leonard arthur (es) and alan guttmacher (aes) to introduce the desired eugenic activity as a normal medical procedure, done at the patient's request. Introducing the eugenic activity as a normal medical procedure allows it to be shrouded in medical privacy - an extra layer of haze in addition to that gained by working through other organizations.
Four. The eugenicists use the techniques of modern advertising to rally support. Since the goal is antidemocratic and the means involves secrecy and legal quibbles, only advertising is really suitable as a means of, well, of advertising. After all, people have to find out somehow that steroids are available for their girlfriends, abortions and infanticide for their children, starvation for their injured realtives and a suicide machine for their elderly parents. Only advertising knows how to motivate people's wallets while bypassing their heart and brain.
And how successful eugenic advertising has been! People who would scorn to be caught believing in the marlboro man or to repeating "it's the real thing" without ironic overtones, will absorb complete little fantasies from condom and abortion ads. They mouth empty slogans such as "it's a woman's choice" or "safe sex" with a devotion that must bring tears of ecstasy to the poll takers and ad men involved. Slogans and demons are preferred to reasons. Campaigns based on fostering hatred of the roman catholic hierarchy have proved very successful in persuading women to take cancer causing steroids. In another triumph, the word "selection" used by josef mengele at auschwitz has been metamorphosed into "choice" and gained the support of the american hebrew union.
Five. The great enemy of eugenics is and always has been the roman catholic church. The eugenics societies therefore expend great energy on destroying or neutralizing this church's opposition. For example, in the early sixties, while eugenic journals were filled with discussions of how best to change society in the eugenic direction, eugenicists engaged certain deluded catholics, such as fr. John o'brien of notre dame, in solemn discussions about "not imposing morality". These unhappy souls were then persuaded to work to prevent the church from taking a stand on eugenic issues because "it was not right for the church to impose its moral values on others". Thus, as the eugenicists worked to change society and impose their disastrous morality on everyone, (see for example, "population policy", kingsley davis, science, v. 158, 1967, p. 730 with its sequels "beyond family planning", john d. Rockefeller iii, bucharest, 1974 and the proposed cairo protocols 1994) they had the satisfaction of seeing the catholic church divided and weakened in its opposition to them by some catholic bishops, priests, papers and magazines. And even today some "catholics", such as daniel callahan of the american eugenics society, do every thing they can to keep the church from effectively opposing the imposition of eugenic morality on everyone.
It is a matter of historical fact that the catholic church is the only international organization run by a group of well educated, dedicated men, which opposes eugenics. Why this is so is a mystery. And the demonic delight the eugenicists feel in attacking the catholic church is a mystery too.
But with each passing day the issue becomes clearer: eugenics or democracy.
On one side are the rich and powerful eugenicists, the followers of malthus by way of darwin. These scrooges think that there are too many sick, too many old, too many inferior, too many chinese, too many indians, too many, too many, too many people. They want to take evolution into their own qualified, elite, wonderful hands; they don't believe in the sanctity of life or in democracy, its political expression; and they have learned nothing from the series of social disasters which their policies have inflicted on this century - except to be careful not to get caught. That's one choice.
And on the other side, there are the orthodox catholics who believe that the world was made by a great and loving creator on behalf of persons, all of whom are immortal souls from the moment of conception. Catholics believe that the world has a redeemer, jesus christ; and a mother to teach it unselfishness - the great mother of god, mary most holy. Therefore they oppose that degradation of human beings which is eugenics and support democracy. That's another choice.
Between these two organized camps lie most of the people of the world. In obscure ways over the next thirty years they will choose between the two. This decision will be the first global decision.
As the song says: " which side are you on? "
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"not your side, nazi boy."
historically the nazi's were for eugenics, so if anything you are the one with the nazi ideology. :lol: nazi girl
historically the nazi's were for eugenics, so if anything you are the one with the nazi ideology. :lol: nazi girl
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I have shown how it is neo eugenics, but you are either too uneducated to understand, to ignorant to care and to read it or both.
Neo eugenics gives women the choice but they use subtle coersion by advertising and feel good buzz words. Like "reproductive choice" "genetic freedom" to make people believe that it is peoples right to decide who is suitable and who is not.
Why is it the majority of abortions are on poor people, why have blacks got a higher abortion rate than white, why is birth control promoted in schools among underage working class girls, why are their abortion rates increasig at a faster rate than any other group in society. Its a subtle coersion by use of perception managment to camoflage eugenics as a choice not force - hence neo eugenics or new eugenics
Neo eugenics gives women the choice but they use subtle coersion by advertising and feel good buzz words. Like "reproductive choice" "genetic freedom" to make people believe that it is peoples right to decide who is suitable and who is not.
Why is it the majority of abortions are on poor people, why have blacks got a higher abortion rate than white, why is birth control promoted in schools among underage working class girls, why are their abortion rates increasig at a faster rate than any other group in society. Its a subtle coersion by use of perception managment to camoflage eugenics as a choice not force - hence neo eugenics or new eugenics
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"it is a woman's right to be able to control her body"
agreed.
"the majority of abortions are on white, middle class women. Get the facts right before you spout your ignorant as/s off."
i suppose you have proof of this assersion
when I checked it up I got the abortion rate per 1,000 women by race is 18 for whites, 54 for blacks and 38 for other groups and the 2nd most common reason for an abortion was they "could not afford a baby" which is suggestive that poor people, more so black people are more likely to get an abortion.
agreed.
"the majority of abortions are on white, middle class women. Get the facts right before you spout your ignorant as/s off."
i suppose you have proof of this assersion
when I checked it up I got the abortion rate per 1,000 women by race is 18 for whites, 54 for blacks and 38 for other groups and the 2nd most common reason for an abortion was they "could not afford a baby" which is suggestive that poor people, more so black people are more likely to get an abortion.
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"if this was true, you wouldn't support limiting her to reproductive rights as well"
i dont support limiting reproductive rights
btw your link didnt work.
i dont support limiting reproductive rights
btw your link didnt work.
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"if you are in favor of making abortion illegal, then yes, you do"
no, no I dont, since being pregnant means you have already reproduced and made a choice about your reproductive right.
Abortion is not a reproductive right, it is not a reproductive choice, since you have already reproduced, abortion is a right to kill a child or not.
no, no I dont, since being pregnant means you have already reproduced and made a choice about your reproductive right.
Abortion is not a reproductive right, it is not a reproductive choice, since you have already reproduced, abortion is a right to kill a child or not.
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Izzy, im sorry but why are you so obsessed with nazis and eugenics?
I think about 25% of your posts mention it.
I think about 25% of your posts mention it.
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Because, people need to know!
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I think we've all heard it now and u seem to be the only one agreeing with it... Prolifers correct me if im wrong
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I Got Your Back Izzy
Ehh erhm please excuse my broad focus of speak.
Its 10 am and i've been reading all night about eugenics and the secret elite societies of german and british desent who beleive that eugenics is neccesary to free the world of it's misery, and "undesirables".
I think these people are driven damn near mad with thier power, and thinking they can control every aspect of life. At the same time I can sympothize with them having to deal with these herds of "stupid" people who don't like to think for themselves and crouch down for the hands that feed them.
I despise how they target sertain races as weak or inferior, as if they are so great. I mean yeah some people do bring more to the table of civilization than others (some may even rape great benifit from those who do), like say benjamin franklin or thomas jefferson vs. Any bush or anna nicole smith. Not everyone is going to be super inteligent in this world. Every race has its high points givin its chance to shine, and although i'm caucasion(italian-no check box for that is there??) or white, as people like to call me, I don't want to live in a world of only white people. Whats the fun in that.
No diversity?
No competition?
No contrast?
Statistically japanese peeps have highest iq followed by americans and europeans followed by mexicans and africans, but there are always ones to disprove these stereotypes with flying colors. I beleive its all in the will of the person given the advantages/disadvantages that person has faced along with their genetics. But tables can turn without notice, disadvantages into advantages, pain and sacrifice into strength and wisdom.
Many african americans I beleive seem to prove to be strong souls when put under great pressure and oppression. The elite "white man"(definately not me) has done everything in its power to keep blacks and africa weak,(from segregation and crack to engineering aids and chaos in their social and political circles) all for the benifit of the "mighty" and "righteous" us of a. Who reaps all profits of south africas low cost resources and (in the past) slavery, supposedly nessesary to sustain our way of life. Still many overcome and are stronger better people because of this.
If you ask me i'm sure every race has earned its place in this world somehow, and there is no single race who is able to determine another unfit or inferior. These elite spoiled brats who run the world today, and think of themselves to be so high and mighty, are a bunch of leeches and tyrants living off the blood and sweat of the grunts. Why?.. Because they are good at manipulating?? Or is it that people are easily manipulated??? Maybe both??
Anyways, i'm getting tired and into other matters... I do beleive we have a responsiblity to ask ourselves the questions.. Do I feel am I fit to bring another soul into this world?? Am I making a contribution to society by doing so?? Am I prepared??? Do I really want to give up my current lifestyle yet??? And so on...
I was an unplanned child and I am proud of this. My life isnt very easy but it's also not the hardest, and i'm sure I was a handfull growing up but thats life and it is full of suprises. All you can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. I know i'm glad my mom decided not to abort me... Although this cruel world makes me sometimes wish I could just disappear, or die and reincarnate (lol if thats what even happens noone really knows). I live and I learn the world is tough but a challenge is a good thing... Imagine everything could be done with very little effort, wheres the glory in that???
Eugenics is definately an interesting subject to me because of this, and I try to understand it without any bias or misconceptions, although it is shady business in many casses I think there is some light to be seen and several life lessons to be learned.
People with great power should humble themselves, they are not god and they can really health question up trying to be. Change takes time, they know this... Which is why we are being conditioned every day thru the media propaganda we are fed daily by tyrannous media giants along with the occasionall "terrorist attack" to really shake people up and bring about a quick change... Like the patriotact voiding our constitution all in our stupor of panic and fear!!! People really need to wake up and realize we live in a (yes) fascist country (look it up) sadly it will be too late before they do.
A few interesting quotes:
-life is no brief candle to me. It is a sort of splendid torch which i've got to hold up for a moment and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing it on to future generations. (george bernard shaw)
-if ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. (samuel adams)
-evolution is the development of the energy of the universe in such a way that it has an increasing ability to consciously control itself and the universe around it. It is a progressive change from the unconscious to the conscious. We are the universe trying to comprehend itself. Man is the corporeal manifestation of the universe trying to control its own destiny. Man is god in the process of coming into existence. (james hart eugenic manifesto)
-the fact itself, of causing the existence of a human being, is one of the most responsible actions in the range of human life. To undertake the responsibility--to bestow a life which may be either a curse or a blessing--unless the being on whom it is bestowed will have at least the ordinary chances of a desirable existence, is a crime against that being. (john stuart mill, essay on liberty)
Its 10 am and i've been reading all night about eugenics and the secret elite societies of german and british desent who beleive that eugenics is neccesary to free the world of it's misery, and "undesirables".
I think these people are driven damn near mad with thier power, and thinking they can control every aspect of life. At the same time I can sympothize with them having to deal with these herds of "stupid" people who don't like to think for themselves and crouch down for the hands that feed them.
I despise how they target sertain races as weak or inferior, as if they are so great. I mean yeah some people do bring more to the table of civilization than others (some may even rape great benifit from those who do), like say benjamin franklin or thomas jefferson vs. Any bush or anna nicole smith. Not everyone is going to be super inteligent in this world. Every race has its high points givin its chance to shine, and although i'm caucasion(italian-no check box for that is there??) or white, as people like to call me, I don't want to live in a world of only white people. Whats the fun in that.
No diversity?
No competition?
No contrast?
Statistically japanese peeps have highest iq followed by americans and europeans followed by mexicans and africans, but there are always ones to disprove these stereotypes with flying colors. I beleive its all in the will of the person given the advantages/disadvantages that person has faced along with their genetics. But tables can turn without notice, disadvantages into advantages, pain and sacrifice into strength and wisdom.
Many african americans I beleive seem to prove to be strong souls when put under great pressure and oppression. The elite "white man"(definately not me) has done everything in its power to keep blacks and africa weak,(from segregation and crack to engineering aids and chaos in their social and political circles) all for the benifit of the "mighty" and "righteous" us of a. Who reaps all profits of south africas low cost resources and (in the past) slavery, supposedly nessesary to sustain our way of life. Still many overcome and are stronger better people because of this.
If you ask me i'm sure every race has earned its place in this world somehow, and there is no single race who is able to determine another unfit or inferior. These elite spoiled brats who run the world today, and think of themselves to be so high and mighty, are a bunch of leeches and tyrants living off the blood and sweat of the grunts. Why?.. Because they are good at manipulating?? Or is it that people are easily manipulated??? Maybe both??
Anyways, i'm getting tired and into other matters... I do beleive we have a responsiblity to ask ourselves the questions.. Do I feel am I fit to bring another soul into this world?? Am I making a contribution to society by doing so?? Am I prepared??? Do I really want to give up my current lifestyle yet??? And so on...
I was an unplanned child and I am proud of this. My life isnt very easy but it's also not the hardest, and i'm sure I was a handfull growing up but thats life and it is full of suprises. All you can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. I know i'm glad my mom decided not to abort me... Although this cruel world makes me sometimes wish I could just disappear, or die and reincarnate (lol if thats what even happens noone really knows). I live and I learn the world is tough but a challenge is a good thing... Imagine everything could be done with very little effort, wheres the glory in that???
Eugenics is definately an interesting subject to me because of this, and I try to understand it without any bias or misconceptions, although it is shady business in many casses I think there is some light to be seen and several life lessons to be learned.
People with great power should humble themselves, they are not god and they can really health question up trying to be. Change takes time, they know this... Which is why we are being conditioned every day thru the media propaganda we are fed daily by tyrannous media giants along with the occasionall "terrorist attack" to really shake people up and bring about a quick change... Like the patriotact voiding our constitution all in our stupor of panic and fear!!! People really need to wake up and realize we live in a (yes) fascist country (look it up) sadly it will be too late before they do.
A few interesting quotes:
-life is no brief candle to me. It is a sort of splendid torch which i've got to hold up for a moment and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing it on to future generations. (george bernard shaw)
-if ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. (samuel adams)
-evolution is the development of the energy of the universe in such a way that it has an increasing ability to consciously control itself and the universe around it. It is a progressive change from the unconscious to the conscious. We are the universe trying to comprehend itself. Man is the corporeal manifestation of the universe trying to control its own destiny. Man is god in the process of coming into existence. (james hart eugenic manifesto)
-the fact itself, of causing the existence of a human being, is one of the most responsible actions in the range of human life. To undertake the responsibility--to bestow a life which may be either a curse or a blessing--unless the being on whom it is bestowed will have at least the ordinary chances of a desirable existence, is a crime against that being. (john stuart mill, essay on liberty)
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