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In over two decades of md practice, I have learned that (often?) when the spirit,(kundalini) comes alive it manifests as society’s, healthcare’s, mental-illness.
Reading the story of the ecstatic saints…. They were all psycho, nuts.

Both depression and mania are (often?) manifestations of the spirit, kundalini.
Schizophrenia, and its hallucinations, is also often just a “healthy” spirit, kundalini. Most, if not all, saints in all religions hallucinated.

We all hallucinate about criminals being good politicians – the difference is that schizophrenics more or less know when they hallucinate. We normal people really believe (hallucinate) that criminals are good politicians.
I have also learned that not 1 in 1000 mds has a clue about the spirit or kundalini. (kundalini being christianity’s “holy spirit.”) this includes those md’s (like a relative of mine) that specialize in so called alternative medicine and even spirituality. It boggles my mind: society, religions, healthcare – science knows absolutely nothing about reality, atman, samadhi that is different doses and dynamics manifests itself as kundalini, the holy spirit.

Now i’m starting to think that this inverse relationship -- spiritual-health = mental-illness -- is (has to be) universal thanks to our religions and the façade of the drug industry that makes organized crime look respectable. This façade: “health care” -- that has absolutely nothing to do with health.
So sprit-health is not mental-illness because healthcare and religions are just diseases of the spirit.
-- just thoughts
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replied May 15th, 2011
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Why has no one posted back to this?

I suppose that Ill have to be the one to bring it back.

And I wanted to add something, it's funny how all of these people that you are talking about are just using different words for the same thing, if indeed one has this kundalini and being given the holy spirit is the same thing, why does no one know this?

I don't for one know if they are the same thing, but if people of different cultures are being given the holy spirit, they of course would have different words for it, and then the average fellow would have no idea at all that they were the same, and then he may even fight other people who also have no idea that it's the same.

But I also would suppose that if there are people being given the holy spirit, then there would have to be people with the human spirit, or lying(unknowing) spirit coming up with other words.

It doesn't help to research it though, you are given it or you are not, and if you have it then you don't need to research it do you, you will just have it huh?

But I don't really know.
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replied May 15th, 2011
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It isn't though is it, spiritual health I mean, although a schizophrenic could learn such a thing if it was given to him or her.

Don't trust people that say spiritual, there is only knowledge, it's principally the same where ever you may go. Just good things and bad things.

I would agree some of what this woman says is true, but just one thing alone can't be a manifestation of "spirit", like depression, good reasons and bad reasons to be depressed, "im not rich, wahhhhhhh!"(don't get me wrong though, gotta have some money.) Childish reasons to get depressed really, you can feel to if you try.

It's all b s really, the word spiritual, all that there really is is good and bad, truth and lies, ignorance and knowledge.

Good spirits and bad spirits, but not to worry I suppose. Everyone goes back to father at some point, it will just be to screwed up for even them, to much pain. Only getting there will be like scrapping your way out of a well.
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replied May 21st, 2011
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And furthermore, My schizophrenia, can't speak for all, was just some serious a hole screwing around with me really, making threats, and screwing with my head.

Doesn't sound like spiritual health to me.

A schizophrenic can be spiritually healthy I think, but not because of his schizophrenia, although I suppose anything could lead a person in the right direction with the proper inspiration right?

It's all lies.
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replied May 25th, 2011
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ok, time for the proffesonal theologen to put a accadmics point of view on it from the religous camp.

mind, body and spirit are linked and the heath of one effects another but there can be a sickness in one which manifests throgh the others aswell.

sin (yes i know it is a derty word to most but bare with me) is the course of much spiriutual; sickness and can manifest in mind and body but has a specific start point and corect help from a traind person to remove the feelings.

depression, is predomintly a mind problem but is also caritrised by a change in brain cemistery and spiritual feelings. this is preodomintly treated by mental heath teems but spiritual help can be benifical.

phisical problems perticuler intermal organ problems are just this but both mental and spiritual suport can be inpartant for recovery.

all three aspects are interdepent and inter relaed, a bit like an equaltral triangle but more complicated.

the key doffence between sombady who is menterly ill but potenchly has a heathy spiritual life and someone who has spiritual heath problems is that the latter is more likly to reject spiritual commfert where as the former is likly to inbrace it. these are difficult to diffeterat and it is an idea to have contacts with elders of the local religous communitys who are likly know how to tell the diffence.

there is a good/divine spirit but there are also evil spirits which coure ill heath and are a determent to those who they attachthemselves to.

holistic heath is inportant but it must be conducted accoring to the wishes of the patent and their practices. it is a delicate area and must be delt with carfully.

if you have any speciffic quastions about the relationship between spirituality and heath please PM me.
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replied May 25th, 2011
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spiritual health has nothing to do with happiness, not in this world.

In fact, the more spiritual you are, the more unhappy and hated you will be. They will say "dude, you are killing my buzz! Go away!"

Physical health is meaningless, in fact, no one even has that, we are constantly getting sicker and sicker, even while Im writing this, there isn't a healthy person on this planet, only the sick and the sicker.

Blessed are those that mourn, because they realize that it sucks, and what else would you do, be happy? And you would look pretty dumb walking around in some delusional fantasy wouldn't you, imagaine the things you would say.

Screw religion, just a bunch of liars, they tell everyone that whoever made them is good, this isn't so. Good, or spirit, comes from other places doesn't it.
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replied May 26th, 2011
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i was talking about holistic wellbeing which can be acheved but it is a usefull refence point when understaning one's position in relation to self in past and futcher.

as to the truly spiritual, we do not care what others think, it is the self publoicists who rap it up in religion who are annoying to everyone.

when people have a faith can and offen do find it helpfull in recovering from sickness and in their overall selfunderstanding.

please be carful how you say things as some of what you said could coures effence if someone is in a delicate state.
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replied May 26th, 2011
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I apologize, I should be more careful indeed.

As should you, wink wink.

But I don't think that I need to be careful when i tell people, you can go one way or the other, the better you do the more the universe beats maims and kills you, so what do you say about health then, would that be beneficial at all, to anyone?.

Einstein was what people would call healthy in his mind, and yet all he did to benefit anyone was give everyone the most gargutuan bomb ever seen by man. But I suppose if he had kept his most dangerous discoveries a secret he may have ended up depressed, perhaps without work, poor and unhealthy huh.?

But the more you feed it, the more it will demand from you isn't that right, and go once without feeding it, and I would hate to be you.

I think that Ill take the easier way, and not blow anyone up at the same time(metaphorical of course).

I would ask why a person is healthy first, and find out what it takes to be healthy, and then decide if you would like to do that, but you'd have to take everything into consideration wouldn't you, oh the consequences!
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