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ehealthuser1

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Lower Back Pain..somone Advice..
Posted: 07-12-05 14:34pm

Hi all, I am new on here just thought I would ask some questions.. I have this back pain to my lower right side of the spine (t9 ). This pain is elevated when I sit for long time at work. It is at one particular place. This pain also happens when I play some sport and try to jump , I feel like a catch or pull there. And it hurts so bad that I have to relax ofr like 3 mnts for the pain to go off and then I am back like normal to play again(with the pain still inside but not really hurting much after relax).. Also this pain triggers if I climb the steps and my left leg trips a step and the catch at the same location again. This has been ongoing for more than a year.. But no increase or reduction in pain or health condition except that if I sit long I start getting the ache on that spot . This pain is not really in the external surfce of my back . Somehere deep inside is the pain.. I can really feel there if I sleep on my stomack and if someone just pushes that area down. .. And I am like .. Oh my god.. That hurts.. But the pain relieves down once I sleep on the stomach for like 15 mnts.. Also this happens if somone has to push me from my back without my consious . If someone just goes on pressing the spine joints with their hand at about t9 I can feel the light pain . Also if I try to strech and bend towards left side I fell that pain.
So now to the treatment part. I visited like 3-4 doctors.First ortho recomended that I take t9 spine mri , ok comes back wihtout anything major. Just says normal wear and tear. No nothing really that says there is problem. Doc recomends chiropractic. No help after 5 visits. Doc recomends therapy. Had therapy with electric thingy with 5 visits. No help. Back to square one.
So went to another famous ortho .. Takes another xray of spin and suspects shaurmen's ?? And send me to back pain rehab with advanced theray ... No luck .. Then had one muscle pain reliever injection I think.. The injection was really mild dint feel nothing when inserted just inserted to my musles on the lower right side..No help witht that either. .... Went to another spine specialist. Takes lumbar spine mri. No nothing on the report. All normal..Doc suggest that I go back to play and bear the pain becos he doesnt see anything wrong.

So my question is why cant any one find the pain in my back.. Is there anything thats advaced that can find my pain in the back.. This pain is killing me really! I am in my late 20's and I want to go back to play the sport. Is there anyone who have had similar problem and has any advice..
Can anyone please advice me what should I do..

Tj
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proboy74

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Joined: 17 Aug 2005
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Lower Back Pain
Posted: 08-17-05 23:03pm

What would you recommend with an mri report like this:
technique:. Multiplanar mri of the lumbar spine was performed using spin echo technique. T1, proton density and t2 weighted sagittal images as well as t1 and t2 weighted axial scans through the l1-2, l2- 3 l3- 4, l4- 5 and l5- s1 disc spaces were performed.

Findings:. Coronal imaging demonstrates a normal appearance to the spine. In the sagittal plane however there is obvious malalignment with a first-degree anterior listhesis of l4 on l5. The etiology is bilateral pars interarticularis defects. (the l5 vertebra is sacralized; a small diminutive l5-s1 disc is present and normal.)
at anatomical t1 2-l1, l1-l2, and l2-l3, there is a normal appearance to the disc margin, to the contour and size of the thecal sac, and to the exit foramina. At l2-l3, there is some fluid in the soft tissues immediately posterior to the left facet joint, likely a small synovial cyst. The canal at this level is normal.
At anatomical l3-l4, there is desiccation and narrowing of the disc height. There is circumferential bulging of the posterior disc margin, accompanied by some osseous sparring to the left of the midline. Mild impingement on the base of the left foramen is present.
At the malaligned l4-l5 level the medial aspect of the right foramen is moderately narrowed; because of the rnalalignment the foramen is elongated in the anterior/posterior dimension and narrowed in the superior/inferior dimension. On the left side at this level a severe degree of foraminal impingement and likely compression of the exiting nerve root is observed. In addition, lateral recess narrowing is present. Some stress response in the left pedicle of l4 and in the left lamina of l5 is seen as t2 signal increase.

Impression:. 1. A transitional lumbosacral vertebra, with sacralization of the l5 vertebra and a normal-appearing but small disk at l5-s1 noted.
2. Just above this level, at anatornical l4-l5, bilateral pars interarticularis defects have led to a first degree anterior listhesis of l4 on l5. Moderate right and marked left foraminal narrowings are observed. Lateral recess stenosis is present bilaterally but the canal itself is not compromised and demonstrates typical anterior/posterior elongation.
3. At the anatomical l3-l4 level, the disc shows narrowing and desiccation. Mild left foraminal impingement due to left-sided osseous ridging is seen. The canal is normal in size at the disc space and shows some mild coronal narrowing at the upper endplate of l5.
4. All of the visualized interspaces above anatomical l3-l4 are normal. Each of the vertebrae, including l4 and l5 demonstrate normal contour and signal in the marrow space.

This is what a ct scan said: bilateral spondylolysis and a resultant grade 1-2 anterolisthesis of l5 on s1. Mild proliferative changes in the facet joints at this level together with the spondylolisthesis is resulting in a mild posterolateral central spinal stenosis. Otherwise normal computed tomography of the lumbar spine from l1-s1.
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proboy74

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Joined: 17 Aug 2005
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Low Back Pain
Posted: 08-19-05 21:02pm

I am 30 and I am a customs officer at jfk airport. I work mornings which are not that busy and I am not required to exert myself that much in the area that I work. I have been in a few car accidents but don't remember having any back pain associated with them. I played football in high school but watch most games from the sideline. I weigh about 240 and I am 5'10 tall. The weight doesn't help I am sure. I am concerned about the fact that my general physician told me the orthopedist he referred me to would just recommend pt and that surgery was the last resort. This was of course before I had my mri. The orthopedist told me that I needed surgery and that pt would not do me any good in my situation. I know one is a specialist but the differing opinions doesn't help matters. I still opted for pt for a few weeks because the thought of a laminectomy(spelling?) and spinal fusion scare me to death. If after a few weeks of therapy I feel no improvement or feel worse I guess I will go for another opinion and work from there. I have had two pt sessions so far which consisted of heat pads and electric stimulation on my back and then stretching exercises for my back afterwards. This helps but the relief appears to be only temporary. I know I have to keep at it so i'm not throwing in the towel yet.
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