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Sleep 12 Hours a Night, Still Want Nap, And Often Sleepy (Page 1)

Hey there,

my problem is that I suspect I have sleep apnea, but it's horrendously expensive to get checked for it so I wanted to see if anyone else out there concurs with me.

I can easily sleep up to 12-13 hours a day, and then wake up feeling somewhat rested, but then a mere six hours or less later I can feel overwhelmed with exhaustion. Yesterday I slept 12 hours, woke up and worked 7 hours, then took a 2 hour nap, ate dinner and studied and then took another 2 hour nap before going to bed at 1am and sleeping another 12 hours. This seems unnatural to me. It really gets in the way of normal life.

I'm not depressed, but I am getting very frustrated about how much time i'm losing in my life to sleep.

My mom is highly skeptical that I have sleep apnea because in her mind there are a lot of other things that cause such excessive exhaustion and sleepiness. I have hay fever (allergies), which I realize can exhaust the body, but i'm exhausted and sleepy all the time, even in the winter when there is no hay fever.

She also thinks that perhaps a yeast problem internally is my problem... But she also suggests that some people need more sleep than others... Right, but not 12-13 hours and a desperate need for a nap every day.

Any input from anyone? Again, I don't snore at all... I do talk in my sleep notoriously, and have an excrutiatingly difficult time waking up to any number of alarm clocks, etc.

Essentially the sleep lab as a means of determining whether I have sleep apnea is far too expensive to be realistic as an option... Especially since I don't have insurance.

Help!!!

Regards, abe
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replied July 6th, 2005
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Don't have much time to post in detail.

Perhaps its over sleeping? Try only getting eight hours sleep, say from 11pm till 7am, get up and see how the day is.

Lack of vitamins? You can get sleep and what not but if gluscose and sugars fromt he body aren't released into the bloodstream then your body wont be able to utilize the energy.

Perhaps you have to many toxins in your body?

Simple remedy: hot water and add fresh lemon to it, so its like drinking tea...Without tea...Just lemon.

Hope that helps.
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replied July 6th, 2005
Don't Think It's Apnea
Im not sure what your problem is maybe extreme exhaustion. I think sleep apnea is when your breathing gets cut off for a short period of time during sleep - the passage to your lungs gets cut off, therefore since you dont snore its probably not apnea. Maybe you just need a long rest to restore your body, it most likely a sign that you're doing too much xxx
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replied July 28th, 2005
Your Sleep Problem
Hi there I was just browsing the net and I came across your message, I hope its not to late to reply to your querry.

I just had to reply as your symtoms are exactly what I have/had, I know if you research into sleep disorders in medical journals and on the net your/our symtoms don't quite come into any classiffication. However I understand the frustration of trying to explain your symtoms to others as they 99% of the time just think you are lazy/unhealthy/depressed etc.

I was "diagnosed" with a manafestation of narcolepsy bassically to shut me up and allow me access to recieve stimulant medication. However as I also am currently studying into my condition I beleive that stimulant medication although helps is not the answer.

Go see a specialist and try to get on ritalin or something, because there trust me there is no way that you will be able to carry on a good lifestyle the way you are going.
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replied August 26th, 2012
Hi I was really interested in your post, I have been told that I have chronic obstructed sleep apnea and have under active thyriod to boot, but I have started to sleep 12-13 hours at night and fall asleep during the day, and the same phrase was used that I feel I am sleeping my life away. It is awful. I thought once the sleep apnea was discovered and got the cacp machine that all would be goog but no, I feel that there is something else is going on, I see that you have stimulant medication has it made a difference to you? I spoke to the Nurse and she say that it was a habit that I need to break of sleeping so much but I don't agree as I know there is something going on. Could you let me know how you are going on. Kind regards
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replied August 4th, 2005
Serotonin
Sounds like you need to augment your serotonin levels. One of the best supplements for this is 5 htp. I like the one unapproved advertising spam sells best. Hope this helps.

Arfff
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replied August 17th, 2005
Try Taking Melatonin 3 Mgs
My son has adhd really bad and didn't sleep for days and his step mom tried this on him when he went for a 3 week visit and it really works !

Well, I have had problems sleeping for yrs and have been tested twice for sleep apnea and they say I don't have it, even tho I do snore and talk in my sleep (so i'm a busy girl, lol). They say it's just stress and keep handing me more sleeping pills.

Well, no more.... I tried the melatonin and it works wonders for me. I have to take 2-3 pill sometimes, but it works and my son and I both rest good, without the druggy feeling the next day.

Your's might just be stress also like mine was. Sounds like going to school and working is taking it's tole on your body and yes over sleeping will make your body tired, so cut out the napping and try to keep yourself busy.
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replied August 17th, 2005
Melatonin
Yes, i've found that the 5-htp is incredible and you take that in the morning. I also got some of the melatonin that unapproved advertising spam sells as well to take at night and it works really well. They have a 3mg or 1mg sublingual (which is the type you want) and they also have a 3mg slow release melatonin. If you take a slow release right before bed and then put a regular one under your tongue you not only fall asleep but you don't wake up all through the night.
There are also a bunch of articles on unapproved advertising spam that tell about sleep problems. Seems you can also treat it with a special "light therapy" as well.
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replied October 30th, 2005
I take melatonin too and it works great. No bad side effects except you might accidentally raise your melatonin levels a little higher than you would like but that's no biggie and after a few nights you'll figure out what dose is good for you. Although I didn't want to write to tell you about a drug to fix the problem. I'm trying to help you identify it. Humans don't normally sleep for 12 hours a night. It's about 8.5 average. 9 for teens 8-8.5 for adults and seniors. So something is up with your sleep pattern. Something isn't happening to progress to the next stage of sleep or something is happening to disrupt it. When stages get interrupted it's kind of like a reset button. That's why sleeping without waking up in between is the best way to go about it. It could be the amount of light you get. For instance if you work night shift or live in the arctic circle that can really mess with sleep and sometimes lead to long-term health problems. It could very likely be the bed. I've slept at home in my !**@! bed and then slept on some fancy memory foam beds and the difference is astronomical. Even distribution of weight does so much to keep the moving down at night which can interrupt your sleep without you even realizing it. I'd get one but I don't have 3k to spend on a bed right now. Also, and I know this isn't normal, but about a half an hour of exercise a day really helps. Exercise helps sleep so damn much. It's the last thing people want to hear but it's true. Just don't finish it within a half hour of when you wanna sleep. Stress can be a factor too. Like if you have unpaid bills or are lonely that can make sleep really hard. Most important is good bed, proper amounts of light during the day (most people don't have a problem with it), and enough exercise. Www.Sleepfoundation.Org/ talks about sleep cycles with a flash cartoon if yer interested. I watched it. I was guuuud.
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replied November 1st, 2005
Maybe Its Narcolepsy
I had the same problem as you did. I thought I had sleep apnea cause I snore really loudly and a few other family members have it also. I went in for a overnight sleep study and a nap study the day after the sleep study and found out that I have narcolepsy. I have to take amphetamines (dexedrine) but they seem to work. I have been on them almost a year, since I found out. The only problem is they loose their potency, but I skip one day a week and it helps. You should talk to your doctor and get a sleep study, they can find out if you have sleep apnea that way too. It may be expensive, but sleep apnea can kill you, so I think its worth the cost to find and cure your problem.
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replied November 2nd, 2005
Sleeping 12 Hours, Nap, Still Tired - Me, Too
Hello - I really hope you get this reply. I find the other responses to your post incredibly frustrating. I've had the same exact symptoms as you describe - and people said the sames things to me: "just get up after 8 hours." I wanted to scream. If I could get up after 8 hours, I would. "you just need a lot of sleep," "take sleeping pills" - which I find funny, since the problem is sleeping too much.

Anyway, you wonder if it might be sleep apnea. I had the opportunity to go to a sleep clinic and I found out that indeed I had sleep apnea. I had no idea - I don't even snore, i'm not obese, and i'm not an old man (actually i'm a young healthy woman). Sleep apnea absolutely causes constant exhaustion (contrary to what other posters said) because when you stop breathing during sleep (as I do every 2 minutes apparently) your brain wakes you up in order to start breathing again - even if you wake up so minimally that you don't even know you are doing it. Therefore you never get a restful sleep. So you are exhausted all the time.

I've been battling this since my diagnosis in january 2005. I've been struggling with the usual treatment - cpap - and it is not working. The masks you have to sleep with are so uncomfortable that it is impossible for me to use them. I just purchased my third mask ($200) and it is the same thing.

I sympathize with your inability to go to a clinic - I was only able to go because my father paid for it, I don't have insurance either. But, i'm no better because the usual treatment isn't working for me, and I can't afford to go to another doctor.

Good luck.
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replied November 2nd, 2005
Try Iron
I am also this way, try iron supplements. Cheap to buy if it is not working for you...

Some of the symptoms of a lack of iron include, always tired(sometimes your head just feels to heavy to carry), shortness of breath for fairly simple things(a set of stairs), sometimes darkening under the eyes, sometimes the feeling of being cold.....

But the biggest for me is I never stop sleeping, so I take the iron for a week or two, and stop until I start to feel this way again.

Hope you find something that works for you, because I know the feeling of sleeping your life away. (or so it seems) :)
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replied March 24th, 2006
Iron
You should have your iron tested though, because taking it when you don't need it, could put toxic levels in your liver.
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replied March 25th, 2006
Glandular fever?

Hiv?

I know those 2 cause tiredness.

Ive had glandular fever, and its horrible. I am an insomniac, but I got glandular fever once, and it was the strangest thing, because I went from not sleeping at all, to sleeping loads! But now im back to not sleeping at all! Lol
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replied April 4th, 2006
Well I Doubt
That you just came off of some sort of sleep meds right, but if you did it fits the criteria, I think, dont hold me to this stuff
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replied April 8th, 2006
That was crazy. You can sleep for 12-13hours.

I wish that I can be same like you because I only sleep around 5hour. I got to wake up early. I will lying on the bed each time before I wake up because I got not enough sleep. Some of my friends sleep 3 hours per day. All of us got not enough rest which caused by the stupid school. I am very tired.
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replied April 10th, 2006
Re: Sleep 12 Hours a Night, Still Want Nap, And Often Sleepy
Sleep apnia is one thing that can do this, also if you have shallow breathing, or your pulse slows down too much this can happen causing hypoxia. Getting a sleep test done is the only answer to this mystery.
Whithout it you will never know what is taking place during sleep that is causing your problem. I used to sleep 20 hrs a day and was still exhausted until I had the problem fixed and now I sleep 6-8 hours and feel perfectly fine. Pain in muscles, depression, anxiety,and headaches in the back of the neck can also be caused by sleep disorders.
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replied March 26th, 2008
this made me sleepy
I have felt sleepy all the time here lately too. And I know I am getting enough sleep. I am gonna see a specialist soon. Check back on here and I will let ya'll know what I found out. Maybe it could help someone else too. But I'm gonna go now because reading all this made me sleepy. I'm going to bed.
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replied December 15th, 2008
Sleepy all the time
I have had this problem as long as I can remember. I am 33yrs old now and I remeber when I was in highschool coming home around 3:30 and falling asleep within thirty minutes and sleeping all the way through the night till I was woken up at 7:00am, that was around 15hrs of sleep. Everyonee said I would grow out of it, but I just slept 18hrs the other day and would not have gotten up unless my wife forced me too. I have tried numerous things, with no luck. Iam not overweight and do work out. I have tried eating different foods and take vitamins, but nothing has helped. The older I have gotten the more fatigued I feel. I wish I knew the answer. I feel bad for everyone that has this problem and some people just do not understand.
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replied December 15th, 2008
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It could be EDS (Excessive Daytime Sleepiness) if everything else has been ruled out. What about B12 levels?

Provigil is given to patients who have Narcelepsy or for individuals who work strange shifts or for other disorders. This particular drug works by stimulating a certain part of the brain to make you alert. It is NOT intended to be taken instead of sleeping.

~Zig
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replied January 30th, 2009
Me Too!
I just woke up at 1:00 pm and went to bed last night at 11:00pm. I have tried everything. I am 48 years old and have never, ever, been able to get by with less then 10 hours of sleep. For some reason my deepest sleep comes around 10:30am. I can't keep a job. If I get even one hour less then my body cries out for I will feel so so very awful all day long. I have tried everything listed in the above posts including CPAP and nothing has reduced the amount of sleep needed. HELP! I will be homeless in a few years at this rate.
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